3d20 – The Great Board Game War [GAME OVER]

[Nero Cain]

Well, you were still calling Thor scum and moved your vote to Gamma. I'm not sure why you did so I asked.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Why is tomorrow mass claim?

Needs to happen soon, we may have more than one cc to resolve. I'd want to do it today but there are parity cops and Even-Night tracker that don't have results yet. Tomorrow everyone should have a result unless they were blocked. T3 presumably blocked Cakez so I doubt there has been significant interference that would warrant waiting for D4.

Other roleblocker is X-shot if unfudged and possibly will holster if they are 2-shot, or could be out of shots if they're 1-shot.

In fact, it might be best, if there is a 2+ shot roleblocker out there, that they either holster or target the same player they did N1, so that at most only 1 parity cop doesnt have a result due to blocks

[ssbm_Kyouko]

If Thor's really off the table, then I propose this:

tonight I will target Thor

. I encourage at least one other person to do so as well. If I'm the only death and at least one other person did target him, then Thor was lying.

This doesnt work as scum!Thor can just shoot you toNight, bit I dont think he's off the table - he has 3 or 4 votes right now I think?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I'll claim first in massclaim tomorrow so I'll be locked in before any results on me

I thought tomorrow was only massclaim if we mislimmed/couldn't find cult? We've got 1 scum and the CL...I don't see a reason to massclaim D3

I think most likely if we mass tomorrow that we will still have enough mislims left to run through anyone that is unconfirmed and win. We'll see after flips I suppose.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I actually think I prefer a Thor elim over a Gamma claim at this point. VOTE: Thor

Can we at least get a gamma claim first? We aren't getting much new info from a Thor lim right now if he flips green

I dont think getting 1 claim now is helpful because scum can just NK whoever claimed if their role is on the list. When we do claim it should be everyone claiming in the same Day.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Right but what are the odds it has a NK? or that it wasn't fudged? I'm unsure if T3's roll was actually CMV or fudged into Cult

Pretty sure based on the fishing T3 was doing for multitasking and his tunnel on Cakez that he was looking for a cult multitasking voyeur, which would indicate it was rolled that way and it wasnt fudged. Think we've been over this and we disagree on T3 seeing Cakez's first post as a crumb, but even if you disagree on that I think one thing that is apparent from T3's play is he somehow knew something was up with Cakez

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Gamma, a safe roleblock if you're town is on Robert as he's claimed he was 1-shot doubled vig. We know he's not parity cop, and if you're town there's likely a 3p. If you block him he wont be able to kill if he's faked vigilante, and if he's really a vigilante, you wont be stopping any parity cops.

If it was any other player as the second roleblocker I think it would make more sense to holster, but as we know (most likely) cakes was blocked twice last Night, our parity cops are both primed to get results toNight. Best not to stop that from happening. With Gamma claiming RB, from his town POV, 3P is all but guaranteed. Blocking RMH can rule him out if we get 2 kills

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Also if Gamma commits to blocking RMH publicly, we dont have to waste rolecops on RMH. Gamma, are you willing to do that? Just say No if you're not willing or are 1-shot. Dont out how many shots you got.

[redtea]

in ref to #1828

whats wrong with it?

you know what, nevermind. I was thinking associations but. I don't know how much weight I should give it. If one of you two flip ill come back to it.

{nero, rmh, thor} is my new pool for today

let's goooooooo

VOTE: gamma emerald

any way the wind blows doesn't really matter to me...to me.

though he'll more than likely claim that he was consolidating b/c deadline I still find it perplexing that he went after someone, not in his POE

because i decided to go based off of a non-meta-informed read. Maybe i should've specified that.
But i've been willing to vote that slot for most of this game so yup, the opportunity came.

[redtea]

Mara are you like voting Gamma to get him to claim or what?

.......

VOTE: Thor

nO

If Thor's really off the table, then I propose this:

tonight I will target Thor

. I encourage at least one other person to do so as well. If I'm the only death and at least one other person did target him, then Thor was lying.

okay while this is true.... why would we potentially sacrifice two towns like that
ugh maybe we should elim thor before m/elo

[redtea]

I’m a roleblocker that blocked Cakez last night so the cult is probably dead for good

given that it's roleblocker + there being two town roleblocker claims on the list, i wouldn't be surprised if that got fudged into mafia roleblocker. Also interesting that rmh and thor both claimed to have rolled that, but I won't look too much into it atm

[redtea]

okay what about thor
is thor okay
we can agree on thor
thor's good? we can do that?
we have 15 hours i do not want to nolim

[Dragon of the West]

So Gamma's roleblocker would have come from RMH, right? Just went back to check the list and Thor claimed he rolled odd night roleblocker which T3 flipped

[Gamma Emerald]

Also if Gamma commits to blocking RMH publicly, we dont have to waste rolecops on RMH. Gamma, are you willing to do that? Just say No if you're not willing or are 1-shot. Dont out how many shots you got.

I’ll do it

[Dragon of the West]

Alright...I don't think Gamma is scum assuming no one comes forth with a CC unless RMH and Gamma are scum partners which seems unlikely. If Gamma was a scum roleblocker, I feel like they would have targeted the suspected doubled vig with the roleblocker on N1 and tried to kill cult. Gamma clearly thought Cakez was scummy D1, from scum perspective that would mean cult but from town perspective they could only roleblock so that's what they would do

[Dragon of the West]

If Thor's really off the table, then I propose this:

tonight I will target Thor

. I encourage at least one other person to do so as well. If I'm the only death and at least one other person did target him, then Thor was lying.

Assuming you're a weak PR and town...this could actually be a good move if we don't lim Thor

[Dragon of the West]

UNVOTE:

[Cook]

vc 2.3

ssbm_Kyouko (2): Nero Cain, Gamma Emerald
Gamma Emerald (2): redtea, Marashu
Dwlee99 (1): Thor Ragnarok
Thor Ragnarok (1): ssbm_Kyouko, Dwlee99

[Cook]

heads up deadline will hit during inactivity time for me so you may have a few extra hours.

[Dragon of the West]

If Thor's really off the table, then I propose this:

tonight I will target Thor

. I encourage at least one other person to do so as well. If I'm the only death and at least one other person did target him, then Thor was lying.

Assuming you're a weak PR and town...this could actually be a good move if we don't lim Thor

Except I don't think a second person should target Thor....
Hm I have to think about this

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah idk the merits of more than one person targeting there? Like, that’s just more dead bodies if Thor is what he claims.

[Marashu]

okay what about thor
is thor okay
we can agree on thor
thor's good? we can do that?
we have 15 hours i do not want to nolim

Deadline happens between two meetings for me, so I can check in and change votes if necessary to make something go through.

[Marashu]

Yeah idk the merits of more than one person targeting there? Like, that’s just more dead bodies if Thor is what he claims.

If someone got my even night parity cop (PS - if that one wasn't fudged, then I'm sorry you got that role in a game that potentially has a double vig), that might not be a bad person to target Thor. That said, the easiest way to find out is to flip him, and depending on who got it, scumhunting skills > role power.

[Robert M Hunter]

Thor seems to be automatically voting anyone that votes him.

[Nero Cain]

Thor seems to be automatically voting anyone that votes him.

He's voted for you, Marashu and DW. Hasn't voted redtea and ssbm though at least not today.