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[Titus]

Trying to catch up while in court. No guarantee I'll finish.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

it's actually 3d20 that I'm starting from here lol
what dotw said in the postgame of that struck a chord with me, because in ln 235 I was at odds with nero but in ln 234 where nero was scum he was actually on my side when I was getting pushed and that made me think he was town, and in 3d20 I was confused that people were pushing nero, though I probably presented that in a way to make the idea I was partnered with nero more palatable, basically exploiting the tell kyouko has tried to use on me previously where I try to fish out the logic for the push on a scumbuddy to determine whether I think the wagon has enough validity to necessitate a bus

I burned it after radio buzz

[Titus]

Called it.

Not Masons.

Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week.

I think MB made it pretty obvious.

As I was seeing MB perilously close to claiming on what, page 5??? I suggested that we claim masons instead of neighbors as a gambit. It would seal the fate of at least one of us as the scum NK (neighbor isn't a power role, town wouldn't miss it, so safe gambit) - I had planned to ask that we not be doc-protected just before day's end. Day 2 everyone wakes up, and there is a neighbor flip - then it lends credence that the other neighbor is more likely to be town. Not confirmed by any means, but less suspicious. The scum would know that we're not masons if one of us is scum, you see? Scum would be more likely to kill us if they believe we are masons. And if we lived too long... chances are one of us would be scum.

Math panicks as town.

[Titus]

MB's paranoia about the gambit makes me believe that he's the towniest of the 2, ftr.

DGB gets scumpoints for attempting to pigeonhole Math into an anti-town fakeclaim.

It's a common DGB gambit. Not my style, but I'd do it once I townread DGB.

[Titus]

Nero House DGB town I think is where I'm at as of catch-up completion

I still like Math for town more than DGB.

You're probably going to vibe better with Math's approach than mine, Titus can vouch for the pitfalls of that kind of thinking. <3 Titus.

Yes sort of.

[Titus]

Hoods and scum PT are closed at ENDGAME.

It is not a GIVEN they are open during PREGAME.

So? This is just a tell they are in a PT.

[Gamma Emerald]

it's actually 3d20 that I'm starting from here lol
what dotw said in the postgame of that struck a chord with me, because in ln 235 I was at odds with nero but in ln 234 where nero was scum he was actually on my side when I was getting pushed and that made me think he was town, and in 3d20 I was confused that people were pushing nero, though I probably presented that in a way to make the idea I was partnered with nero more palatable, basically exploiting the tell kyouko has tried to use on me previously where I try to fish out the logic for the push on a scumbuddy to determine whether I think the wagon has enough validity to necessitate a bus

I burned it after radio buzz

it's still a viable tell, you just misused it that game

[Titus]

At any rate, I think DGB voting Math's biggest attacker while calling Math scum kinda stinks.

It does. I just realized I have reason to suspect the gambit is to cover for scum, but I don't want to get into why and my thinking could be wrong.

[Titus]

At any rate, I think DGB voting Math's biggest attacker while calling Math scum kinda stinks.

Would you agree that one neighbor flipping red clears the other?

mostly, yeah. Like that hood I was in was S/S and that's not impossible but Dunn was a traitor so even if it was S/S so if one of Math/DGB were to flip mafia I'd be willing to think the other 2 scum are outside of the hood.

Okay. So we're in agreement that the hood has at least 1 town.

Why do you want to

purge the hood

instead of find the scum IN the hood?

If one is scum, I wouldn't eliminate the other because reasons.

[Titus]

Vote Count 1.01

ssbm_Kyouko (3)

- Gamma Emerald, Cat Scratch Fever, DrippingGoofball

Titus (1)

- Dragon of the West

Kerset (1)

- ssbm_Kyouko

Nero Cain (1)

- MathBlade

Mathblade (1)

- Nero Cain

Cat Scatching Fever (1)

- Titus

DrippingGoofball (1)

- House

Not voting (4)

: Wake88, Kerset, Andresvmb, Almost50

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-09-23 17:06:41)

VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko

Just an opportunistic vote on the largest wagon. I don't even know why anyone is voting anyone else.

Like A50 as town.

[Titus]

At any rate, I think DGB voting Math's biggest attacker while calling Math scum kinda stinks.

Would you agree that one neighbor flipping red clears the other?

mostly, yeah. Like that hood I was in was S/S and that's not impossible but Dunn was a traitor so even if it was S/S so if one of Math/DGB were to flip mafia I'd be willing to think the other 2 scum are outside of the hood.

Okay. So we're in agreement that the hood has at least 1 town.

Why do you want to

purge the hood

instead of find the scum IN the hood?

If one is scum, I wouldn't eliminate the other because reasons.

*would

[MathBlade]

Kerset is town despite being red

I’m kinda feeling this
Also I’m just gonna UNVOTE: because pushing Nero seems to not be working out for me but I s2g if Nero ends up being scum I’m gonna be pretty damn mad at Titus if she’s town because it would be the second time town!Titus defended a scum I was pushing

you know what maybe I legitimately was wrong on Nero
It seems that every time I feel comfortable around him these days he ends up being scum, so the fact he squicked me out so hard here is probably a town tell

I think it's normal for Math.

These posts are about Nero. Why are you saying it’s normal for me?

[MathBlade]

At any rate, I think DGB voting Math's biggest attacker while calling Math scum kinda stinks.

Would you agree that one neighbor flipping red clears the other?

mostly, yeah. Like that hood I was in was S/S and that's not impossible but Dunn was a traitor so even if it was S/S so if one of Math/DGB were to flip mafia I'd be willing to think the other 2 scum are outside of the hood.

Okay. So we're in agreement that the hood has at least 1 town.

Why do you want to

purge the hood

instead of find the scum IN the hood?

If one is scum, I wouldn't eliminate the other because reasons.

*would

Wait what? You believe I am town yet if DGB flips scum you’d eliminate me for “reasons”?

*confused*

[Titus]

We should be killing in the hood today. I don't really care which one we do.

Fuck no and you’re probably scum for this

Stand firm Nero ain't scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

anyway kyouko, do you still feel like I'm hedging on Nero? I tend to be wishy-washy as both alignments fwiw, I dislike getting myself into hot water by being overconfident, which was exactly why I initially stepped off the nero wagon, because that was the exact impression I had of what was happening. I don't entirely expect house to be able to remember/back me up on this but he was in the game that really started that feeling of being afraid to overstep

[Titus]

I wasn't pr fishing.

You blatantly claimed that you were a pr in response to me voting you.

misrepping hunting as shading is pretty bad.

Yes.

Catchup may end soon.

[Titus]

IF THE ENTIRE POINT OF THE GAMBIT WAS THAT SCUM TO KNOW YOU WERE A PR WHY ARE YOU MAD THAT I "OUTTED" YOU AS A PR?

Yes.

[Dwlee99]

Vote Count 1.08

Gamma Emerald (4)

- Andresvmb, ssbm_Kyouko, Nero Cain, House

Nero Cain (1)

- DrippingGoofball

Kerset (1)

- Cat Scratch Fever

ssbm_Kyouko (1)

- Almost50

Cat Scatch Fever (1)

- Titus

MathBlade (1)

- Dragon of the West

Almost50 (1)

- MathBlade

Not voting (3)

: Wake88, Kerset, Gamma Emerald

It takes

7

votes to eliminate.

Mod Notes:

Gamma Emerald is V/LA through the 24th of September. Wake88 was previously prodded and has (expired on 2021-09-16 05:11:03) to post before I begin looking for a replacement.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-09-23 17:06:41)

[Titus]

Why do you think Nero is town?
His entire ISO is PR fishing, shading, and downright scumminess unless I missed something while playing civ.

I think he believes in his pushes though. Tbh that's kind of how I've always read Nero- aggression and activity.

If he's scum I kind of think it'll be more evident later on, so I'm not too worried about it.

I feel like Nero just gives off the wrong vibes this game, like he did in Real Folk Blues Rematch when I day bugged him, and like House did in Radio Buzz

I kinda don’t think Nero believes in what he’s pushing more stuck and memeing at this point.

I think your are just sore and lashing out. Still a chance you are scum though.

Pause.

[Kerset]

wtf did mafia player just admit about being wrong in analyst?

[Kerset]

People don't just say 'sorry i read you incorrectly'. Where is your honor, ego, pride.

[Gamma Emerald]

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t entirely agree with what’s said in that clip but humility goes a long damn way

[Nero Cain]

too little too late, Gamma

[Gamma Emerald]

how the fuck is this “too little”
I’m basically doing a full 180 on you, what the fuck more do you want?