Open 827: Dead Silence III - Game Over!!

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beep beep

VOTE: Cephrir

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almosT forgot

hia A50 hi Enchant hi Gamma hi Not_mafia hia ssbm hi Ydrassee hi Galron hi Cephrir hi Dwlee Hi DGB hello everybody!!

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<<doubt>>>

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VOTE: A50

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hey not bad

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VOTE: Cephrir

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was a general admonishment, although if i were scum i would now be reading deeply trying to figure out what you see

Would you though? The idea that people would be figuring out masons in their own ways should already be kinda obvious, so Dwlee announcing that they think they know three wouldn't really help much would it?

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hey not bad

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I mean... Enchant isnt wrong, if we dont kill people fast enough, mafia inevitably will overpower the masons and SK will figure people out

Assuming that's what they are arguing

But yes mafia cant shoot for free. We give them more information the longer we take, though.

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having an idea you disagree with because it's bad doesnt make one SK/Mafia, A50. Why would SK magically start having ideas you dont like anyway?

hm hm hm I'm not done considering u Cephrir

VOTE: DrippingGoofBall

IF YOU GONNA VOTE SLOW, COLLECTING DAMN 9 VOTES, MAFIA COULD SHOT 9000 TIMES ALREADY AND EAT BREAKFEST AS WELL.

theyd have enough time for lunch, too! and dessert!









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-Pooky

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Mafia can shoot as much as they want as long as they don't get it wrong, no? You had it semi right the first time

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IF YOU GONNA VOTE SLOW, COLLECTING DAMN 9 VOTES, MAFIA COULD SHOT 9000 TIMES ALREADY AND EAT BREAKFEST AS WELL.

Mafia.. can .. NOT.. shoot.. 9000 times. They can shoot ONCE. If they are NOT targeting a Mason THEY die. If that happens we know who was voting the Mafioso and lead them to act in despair. That's not bad. We do get the flip either way.

I didn't townslip, i knew mafia could shot only 1 time and die if they quess wrong (I knew also about Daytalk and ammount of mafia, because... Uh. Everyone should know? You take tip.).

ur both wrong

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tru, they were one-shot in the previous game

Yes indeed they die in this game if they get it wrong. but if they get it right they can keep having that same member shoot until they get it wrong. That's the distinction

Now if we flash-wagon mafia, they may not get the chance to trade themself away for repeated dayvig attempts if they don't show up quickly enough

the downside to us is that we have less info for elims. But there's a downside for them that they may not get to shoot and if they do, they have less info as well

Does this all make sense?

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But yes mafia cant shoot for free. We give them more information the longer we take, though.

What do you suggest we do? Yeet people randomly?? We need the information as much as they do. If we are going the random flash wagons route Scum don't even need to shoot at all.

Do you realize that -in the almost impossible hypothetical extreme case of- 5 Masons alive vs 1 Scum (Mafioso or Sk, doesn't matter) the Scun can still win if they're fast enough??

What I am saying is MORE LIVING PLAYERS is BETTER FOR TOWN, actually. If I was a Town leader I'd probably consider (but not sure if I'd actually implement) a strategy of exhausting the deadline to force scum to shoot blindly between the other 11 players.

But I concede my mind -almost always- works in a different fashion that the majority, so I'm not going to try to promote my non-orthodox methods.

Just don't make the wagons... random...?

Your strategy of waiting til deadline and making the SK shoot over and over is probably the most optimal strat but its also really boring

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I'm not sure how that translates to "If other people have the idea to wagon quickly, they must be SK or mafia"

obviously, SK wants to identify players and sort them. Everyone kind of needs to do that though

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I mean... yeah, of course they will stop shooting if they have killed every mason. feel like we're arguing semantics over that one

Enchant saying they knew all along that mafia could only shoot once when they originally said mafia has nothing to lose shooting randomly -- And they have played the setup before and in reality, mafia CAN shoot multiple times is.. odd. I can agree with you that them admitting they knew all along how the setup works is weird when they actually do have the setup wrong

However, Enchant does have the right idea that if you kill off mafia before they get a chance to draw their gun, that's good, because mafia can pull out their gun and start rapid-firing if they feel they're about to die.

Like... Enchant played the previous setup where mafia can shoot once. Let's assume he has the impression each mafia can shoot one time:

This game is actually about FLASHWAGONS, if you don't perform FLASHWAGON, mafia will simple draw gun and shot on random without anything to lose. So basically, we need FLASHWAGON.

Issue is, 9 votes is heck many for FLESHWAGON, so if you see big wagon, FLESH it.

Oh, you know now I think they're saying "Mafia will draw gun and shoot a random person" -- not "Mafia will draw gun and start shooting people randomly"

might be a language thing

You misunderstanded.

I meant, if mafia believe they are gonna be elimmed, they simple draw gun and shot. We need FLASHWAGON them before they do that.
... No, really, if someone have 5+ (oh well with SK maybe 6+) votes, Mason/Mafia certanly vote them and it makes sense to FLASHWAGON this person, because...
Would't mason vote their own, right?... Right?

this also seems to suggest shooting once

IF YOU GONNA VOTE SLOW, COLLECTING DAMN 9 VOTES, MAFIA COULD SHOT 9000 TIMES ALREADY AND EAT BREAKFEST AS WELL.

I find it plausible that Enchant is referring to how mafia has all the time in the world to shoot 5 times (as they elaborated on later)

Now A50 your argument for Enchant's slip is that they said mafia will shoot "without anything to lose" yeah? But in that post, Enchant is saying mafia that is going down to a wagon can simply draw gun and shoot someone with nothing to lose. So what's the problem?

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Mafia actually can kill SK.

For this deadline should be out. Mafia then can choose SK to die.

When did you figure that out? i hadn't even thought of that

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obviously, SK wants to identify players and sort them. Everyone kind of needs to do that though

SK is the one that least needs info at all. They don't die to Scum shots. They don't die if they misfire. All they need to do is stay out of the loop (erm.. avoid being yeeted I mean). That's why I wanted to be the SK. I precisely said to Pooky that I wanted that role because Scum can't kill me, so it's a major boost for the role.

Sk doesn't care who dies or how they die as long as it's not them.

SK only wins if they figure out who the masons and mafia are quickly enough. Obviously if they get stuck with one large group, they'll lose since there's nothing they could do to avoid being yeeted at that point. they still gotta be cognizant of the game

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friends, i implore you to consider consolidating on DGB or Cephrir

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@MT: I didn't play "this" setup before, but I played something similar (Masons and Scum or something like that). SK can still win against Masons/Scum if they're fast enough.

Shoot X => flip & Reset
Shoot Y => flip & reset
Shoot Z => flip & reset

For them to be yeeted there has to be enough players ONLINE to vote them out.

Hypothetically speaking, let's say I'm a SK and I have 4 Masons alive (and nobody else). I shoot one that is currently online before my wagon is hammered. Now there are 4 living players, and the threshold is 3. ALL 3 Masons alive should be online to even make it possible for me to get yeeted. If one is offline I'd just shoot the 2 online consequently within the next few minutes and win the game.

I also didn't know Mafia could kill SK. I actually interpreted it as a "choose someone to die and the same applies" (I dunno where I got that from) meaning if the target is not a Mason a Mafioso dies still. This misinterpretation actually puts a bit of a dent in my SK strategy so I might have to reevaluate. but it certainly isn't a priority to me right now.

I see what you mean.

Still, if SK ever shoots incorrectly in a similar scenario where just 1 player is not part of that big group, they're fucked

for example if its 4 mason vs 1 maf vs 1 SK that's still bad for SK cuz their chances of being yeeted are huge. But if they get the mafia member wrong, they're screwed.

In any case I dont think it's helpful to hunt SK

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i'm not advocating for randomly choosing. I do think we should get big wagons and (as Gamma says) make the final calls fairly spontaneously so there's no time for mafia to train their aim on somebody

Nothing's random though

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thor's motives are beyond mortal understanding

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Also you're chainsawing

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maybe

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stay the course !

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Show me the coords

i hope this clears things up

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Ydrasse and/or NM openwolfing dont trus tthem

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wulf

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you say you are town wulf

and yet

you are on the wrong wagon

interestante

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oepn your eyes to the scum laying before you

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did u miss the red crosshair and highly incriminating coordinates

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THOR ISNT EVEN PUSHING YOU

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Gamma how could you betray me like this

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Randomly claiming mason with people is complete WIFOM and only can mean something if received like its a serious claim which i dont really know why it would be

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anyway

bad wagonnnnn booooooooooooooooo

if DGB gets to eight votes i will give a deeply detailed case as to why it is scum. Maybe

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Scum can interpret Thor's claims like they mean something at their own peril but it's not inherently helpful to them, is it? I'd be interested in hearing why it's +scum to like 3 ppl

And I am definitely curious to hear why DGB thinks Thor is serious cause it plays unseriously/jokey all the time!

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There's "randomly claiming mason" and "randomly claiming mason with a player being wagoned while spouting off that THAT PLAYER ISN'T RESPONDING ON THE MASON PT."

Spoiler:

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I'm a bit confused what DGB (and everyone else saying this)'s point is overall other than "You're claiming mason with people.... that's bad mafia needs to find the masons and you're helping them... so you're mafia" which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. It's possible I'm missing part of the thought processes though

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Where did Thor claim mason with everyone and it's a joke I missed?

VOTE: Cephrir

I don't think he's a mason

Should we policy the mason bounty hunter Dwlee actually? I heard from a reliable source that they demolish houses and it brings the masons in like moths to a flame, they can't resist the sweet temptation of stone laying.

VOTE: Dwlee

I'll let you off just this once however, given you are my fellow mason in arms

I signed up to be a mason and I'm very excited to get that opportunity

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

Weird that they insist on not posting in the mason PT, despite my several questions towards them. Also didn't like their vote on Enchant.

I just found this note on my car:

"You guys suck! You can never pull together as one and revenge us

-Sincerely,

Not_Mafia,

Mafia Goon

, Eliminated Phase 1"

Are you in this game and why can't I remember anything you're posted? Talk in the PT if you feel like lurking here please

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To be clear I'm not saying thor is town for it i just dont find it AI in literally any way. Maybe a little towny since I personally find that kind of play slightly helpful but overall i think it's mostly a nonfactor

Also how did you miss it? Thor does it every other post

ALSO ALSO even if Thor only did it to you, it's still obviously a joke, no?

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@Morning Tweet, none of your quotes is Thor claiming masons and saying I'm scum for not posting in the mason PT.

I just found this note on my car:

"You guys suck! You can never pull together as one and revenge us

-Sincerely,

Not_Mafia,

Mafia Goon

, Eliminated Phase 1"

Are you in this game and why can't I remember anything you're posted? Talk in the PT if you feel like lurking here please

did u miss this one?

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Thor doesnt use the exact same mason joke twice but unless there's something specially scummy about what he said to you, im not sure i see your point

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i am here pavi

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this wagon i will allow, it is less garbage tier

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Aaron why arent you voting DGB it virtually scumclaimed earlier

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They're scum with DGB

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I was indeed one of the callers in radio buzz

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Wait

No Aaron wasn't a caller

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Care abt what

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Did... A50 genuinely just post to the main thread like it's the scum chat....?

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VOTE: DrippingGoofBall








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-Pooky

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Behind his back everyone called him "Big Mouth" because he always liked talking about his plans until people's ears fell off,

Unfortunately for "Big Brain" when he had a few too many beers he started just talking in the worst spots.

That's fucking hilarious

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Oh sorry thor i missed that

And I am definitely curious to hear why DGB thinks Thor is serious cause it plays unseriously/jokey all the time!

Show an example please?

Like... every game i've seen DGB in it's got a jokey less than serious playstyle?

I'm not saying it doesn't play the game but it does crack jokes (including ones about the game itself) from time to tim which is kinda my point

My last one was radio buzz where I was the mod. I'll skim that to see if memory serves right

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"why do you tr Galron"

His giddiness jumps right off the page, maybe he has a big fat PR :lol:

this seems fairly relevant if we're gonna talk about jokes that could be anti-town on the surface

I will concede DGB doesnt joke *as much* as i thought i remembered. But still, its reaction here:

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

Weird that they insist on not posting in the mason PT, despite my several questions towards them. Also didn't like their vote on Enchant.

What the hell is that????

You are not my mason.

VOTE: Thor

100% Thor is scum, I am not moving my vote.

makes like 0 sense. and we know it's a serious reaction confirmed by its follow-up posts, sooo

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SK missed like a dummy

i've got the team pinned

help me

let's gogogogogogo

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I'm assuming A50 didnt hit both the shots

which mean SK hit one

but SK only hit one (two at most) meaning they're on cooldown right now

Well actually maybe it's better to wait on SK since they should be included to shoot scum

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But that'd take forever. Let's just kill the scum before us and deny as much information as possible

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Well actually maybe it's better to wait on SK since they should be included to shoot scum

**inclined to shoot scum

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CHOO CHOO

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Targetting one group makes you less likely to hit your shot, then your kill goes on CD! SK wouldn't target a single group, I wouldn't think. For example, their chances of hitting mafia is better right now.

I figured one shot was SK since it doesnt make sense to shoot at masons twice, at least in my eyes

I guess the flavour kind of suggests A50 did it, not sure that matters. That begs the question of what is the SK doing all this time, though

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In any case if you're not voting DGB, WHY

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it doesnt make sense to shoot at masons twice, at least in my eyes

Mafia can't shoot townies, right?

i meant for SK

I was thinking A50 shot 0-1 and SK shot 1-2 but it makes no sense for SK to input mason twice in succession so i figured 1 for each

But A50 getting two right is possible I suppose i dont know why my mind didnt really jump there. I just figured it was somewhat unlikely he panicked and got two right

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Oh i suppose it is a group effort so if they had anything he'd have just gone with whatever was already down

What was my point with this

Oh my point was that we should flashwagon to stop SK from shooting but I actually think SK is going to shoot mafia so that makes no sense

But my backup point is that mafia gets closer to having their shots correct the longer we take so let's just kill the mafia and make them shoot right this instant

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Almost would say something like I kill 1 then 2 then 3, yes. Since there is no limit to how many times you can attempt shots at mafia

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as mafia*

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If you're unvoting DGB you better vote someone else

I also do not know why DGB is bein unvoted but I'll look later

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We're unvoting DGB because it didnt read the setup!?! Come on now!!

Gamma why would pav tell a partner to make a shot in the main thread

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how did you join this game without understanding anything to do with it??

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the setup that explains mafia can dayvig?

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VOTE: Galron

where r u

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actually

VOTE: Pavoski

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VOTE: DrippingGoofBall

Not sure why Almost50 took the shots there over DGB if they're from mafia but I'm not gonna think too hard about it because I still can't believe that reaction from DGB is ever genuine

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-Pooky

Cause A50 scumslipped...?

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If DGB is town Pav is scum no doubt in my mind

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I have seen the light friends and I can say with 99% certainty pav is scum assuming DGB is in fact town

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Haha knew it

I think I have the VTs figured out, masons I was hit n miss

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Are we seriously fucking losing??

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Thor/Galron/NM/Gamma contains last scum...?

VOTE: Galron

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I dont remember what ArcAngel did

And everyone I havent mentioned I think are town I think

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Also SK all bets are off. It could be you. It could be me. It could even be--!!

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Thor might be town but I'm not certain. I just got scum pushing town for the right reason vibes. Dont ask me how those are different from town pushing town for the right reason

Galron is very scum

I have Galron same way as Pav

NM I am shaky

I think Gammas votes are bad but I forget

I dont remember Arc

Enchant is good

Cephrir is good but he might just be good at scum but whatever

Ydrasse I'm gambling on, never been burnt by that b4! You also still have never played like this as scum *yet*, only as town. FL v Hectic was a way diff openwulf

I forget who else

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Gamma, only scum wants to kill SK right now. Were you aware of that?

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Also if I were SK I'd have probably hit one mafia in two attempts

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We win these

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top

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fuck yeha

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They were crumbing????? to who?

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SK is gonna start shooting mafia since guessing mason would be dumb

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also if you're disregarding my play and voting me because some random off the cuff post I made seems like a SK crumb I will continue to assume u are red alignment

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OoOooOoooOo so ive been scummy anyway oooooooooo ookkk

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You're not just saying that to pockit me rite cephrir

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noooo if cpehrir were scum they wouldnt be voting obvscum galron and pav

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I am literally the definition of a perfectly non askew Townie and have done nothing to deviate from my chosen path

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Also hunting SK is dumb help me take down the mafia then we can do SK when like 1 mafia is left or whatever

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Or whatever # of mafia u think stops me from massacrring everyone and winning

We must do at least one mor

also I will enjoy my time in the flannel!!!

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forgot about a50 being in the game u can be fine for now gamma

I mean I think the SK is like Thor

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Also yeah if you're so scared of SK

Let's just play the rest of the game in 72 hours

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STARTING

WITH GALRON

Gamma i make u a deal u can elim your second best SK pick after we kill obvscum Galron

And I'll help u even if i despise the pick

but it cant be me because I''m not SK

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I can't just expose my secret tactic just know that i used it on pav and it worked therefore it has a 100% rate of success

Galron is definitely scum. or mason. That's like 75% odds.

If thats not good enough for us to speedelim galron i dont know what is

and yes i can elaborate a little more i just dont know if i will

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THATS BECAUSE I WOULD MAKE THE SHOT LOL

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OK FINE

Galron has voted masons thrice (Aaron + Dwlee + Aaron again) and VTs at least twice (Ydrasse/Morning/Thor has at least two). He is not around which is uncharacteristic, he's a force for the town usually.

However i do know Galron likes to hide in PTs without posting in game, he did it at least 2-3 times in radio buzz and i was never sure why

He's hiding in the background

What has scum been doing?

Getting the masons perfect by hiding and scheming in their private chat

GALRON

IS HIDING AND SCHEDMING IN HIS PRIVATE CHAT

NEED I SAY ANY MORE

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SORRY

i mean

sorry

I have 5 VTs other than myself written in my notes which is odd because last i checked there are not 6 of us but actually i think the SK is in my mafia pool oddly enough and i think one of my VTs is mafia

If i were SK i have no impulse control whatsoever right now and i would submit my entire list minus the shaky ones

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Galron - Morning, Cephrir, Ydrasse, Gamma

6 to elim

~~SPECIAL OFFER~~!!

JOIN THE WAGON NOW AND MAYBE WE WONT ALL GET SHOT!!!!!

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By the way SK is ArcAngel or Thor and mafia is inside Galron/NM/Thor/ArcAngel and if they aren't all in there it's Cephrir as the last one

cause i know he busses and also is good at scum

But im too comfy in the pockett to do anything about it

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also now that ive spoiled the setup the real SK is gonna steal all my work so if you agree with my reads MAYBE WE SHOULD GET GOING LIKE RIGHT FUCKING NOW

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lol just play worse

and YES enchant lets GOOOOOOOOOOO

whos my other town not voting uhhhhhhhhh

DRIPPINGGOOFBALL IF YOU ARE TOWN VOTE GALRON PLEASE

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THAT WORKS TOO

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Also I'm obvtown Morning Tweet and you've missed the light

i have poor light vision

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MorningTweet is SK, it's obvious

im on mobile so you will get your scene later


Galron was eliminated

Galron was the Serial Killer

Nice

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I meant to do that

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Obviously

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*checks notes*

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Haha mafia what are you gonna do now shoot me

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VOTE: ArcAngel

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Okay so Enchant and DrippingGoofball are town

I thought Gamma was town pretty heavily but i mean maybe he was just killing Galron who he thought was town then to immediately push me as SK and we got the good ending where Galron is SK

Still scared of Ceph

im pretty sure one of Ydrasse/Thor is town at least

Arc is probably scum then. Or Mason but whatever

NM is probably scum or mason but whatever

Thor i do not see the light

pedit: oops

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VOTE: Not_mafia this is tried and true

pedit: I forget why i locktowned DGB im pretty surei h ad a reason but i dont remember

You know what though if im missing the light on you it might just be DGB instead

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Enchant
Ydrasse
Cephrir
Gamma
Cephrir

DGB or Thor idk which
NM
and Cephrir or Gamma id kwhich

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WHY DID I WRITE CEPHRIR THREE TIMES

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If we eliminate town we need to instantly eliminate another player

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A50 made Enchant obvtown if ppl disagree then prolly say so cause ive had him obvtown all game fo rthat

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I still think NM + Gamma or Cephrir + DGB or Thor

with Enchant/Ydrasse as my homies

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what if ur with cephrir

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what if ur with cephrir

and he decided to open with bussing me for fun?

did NM do that?

Honestly i forgot u were an early game wagon

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ok works for me

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nm's reads beyond gamma are abysmal so maybe gamma + nm

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this post fucking killed me and i had to walk away from my desk because of how much i wanted to laugh LMAO

FUCK LOL

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why enchant/ydrasse NM

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if we kill one of nm/gamma and its wrong can we instakil lthe other

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Is the game sitll going? Bad time to go afk apparently

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did we lose

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F

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Wait what

What the fuck is happening i really should have read

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Oh Gamma was mason therefore Ceph is scum i see

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I see DGB was scum

there was one more who was it

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I am so confused where is Ydrasse

pedit: OH

She's good

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God i hate Ydrasse

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(<3)

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Oh you make a valid point that Thor is in fact still in the game

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I will have to consider that he may in fact be playing me as Ydrasse did just a minite ago

I am zazzed that Enchant is still alive

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Lmfao wait no i said very clearly

one of Gamma/Cephir

and one of Thor/DGB

Cephrir u fit very neatly as last scum there

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If DGB was scum how is thor gonna be sucm

also if Ydrasse was scum how is thor gonna be scum

No surely it's just Cephrir whose flannel pocket ive been taking a nap in

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Sorry i just got out of something very distracting and wiped my memory of this game which is weird cause it was like, 1 hour ago i was acting like i knew all the answers

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VOTE: Cephrir

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I wouldnt make such a hasty decision if Enchant weren't my rock but seeing as he is i am fine making no further judgement

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So we're going to win despite mislimming NM ArcAngel and Gamma? thats fucking hilarious

pedit: I mean im just gonna kill Thor if ur town

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..................Enchant is never scum here right?

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I can buy it being Thor but the DGB/Thor/Ydrasse interactions are super funny if so

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Ok thats it from me ill b back

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damn i missed like a third of the game

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If i were around I would have been voting people like crazy trying to get an elim off cause i would have figured scum hadn't shot yet

VOTE: Ydrasse

Death or Glory.

HOLY SHIT ENCHANT IS A FUCKING GOD

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I didnt even see that part and I thought Enchant was town LMFAO

Fuck.

I failed you all.

yeah no we got this

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Oh Gamma was shot I'm so stupid

And Ydrasse..... missed the shot on someone oh

I would have quickhammered NM too i hated his reads but i will give him that he had Ydrasse right

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Although scumreading Enchant highest was criminal

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Oh so Ydrasse got freaked out and accidentally made the shot too early I assume since she was worried she'd get quickhammered ok ok ok

I mean i wouldnt have shot enchant/thor/cephrir/dgb

There's no way she shot me though thatd be crazy. I'm guessing Enchant for being such a GOD at READS

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(just in case we needed more reasons to clear Enchant)

Cause you wouldn't shoot town!Cephrir or town!Thor surely i thought at least cephrir broadcasted VT pretty hard

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and i figured thor wouldnt do the mason thing if he were mason cause his mason buddies might get pissed

And maybe there was voting reasoning. i forget, i had him as a VT or mafia in my notes

I did the same thing as u for the record ceph lol

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Damn did i really just vote the SK for no reason

I am so dumb Galron probably wasnt even scum for the reasons i said

I figured if town wasnt gonna win i would rather it be SK so i just targetted scum

Pav was 100% calculated though please dont take that one from meeeeeeeeeeee

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ok too much i wouldnt go that far i think i failed the masons in attracting shots

their blood is partially on my wings

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i was trying to wait and see who people voted and then pretend like it was my idea and i was the informed one trying to get people to get on the wagon (like with STD on DGB) and i basically just hoped i wasnt scumsiding

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why was thor a counterwagon to DGB if thor is also scum wat was the point of that

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Also I've thought she was a mason most of this game with how she was playing with stuff like “stay the course” and leading the wagons, was that an intentional choice morning? It would be a bold way to play as scum though, similar to how Enchant was deciding who to flashwagon

that was my intention yes

in reality my confidence was kind of okay, I really did think Pav and Galron were scum but when it came to when I said "Everyone vote DGB or Cephrir trust me" i was trying to make it seem like I was informed yeah but in reality i was just bouncing off of the ppl who had already voted them

I would point Enchant to how i have the highest post count in the game somehow and "being comfortable" is not usually a trait of my scumgame but in more marathon-like or otherwise casual mafia games i literally go wild as town

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Also I think i was the first person to bring up Pavoski

Also I was consistently helping masons push DGB/Cephrir although i did kind of back off them to some extents

thor makes a good point that id find it very hard to fake like, when i came back to the thread and was completely bewildered as to what was going on. I thought for sure we lost because i had no idea how we could win if ArcAngel and NM were both town

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im sad i ended up relenting on DGB but i switched to pav anyway so lol

I was starting to get doubts, i didnt think it was mason but i was figuring VT and at the time i wasnt seeing the light on thor

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I thought Dwlee was scum TBH

like at the beginning of the game i townread but their votes i ended up switching to scum i dont remember why\

STD i thought was mason

I had no impression of Aaron not enough people voted him and he didnt really say anything so i wasnt sure

Same with ssbm wtf lol

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Scum shot at all the people in the background who werent directing shit and i thought to attract shots you had to be a bright and annoying flashing light

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Ceph's pocket is comfey can i sit in it more often

pedit: I actually thought NM might be mason when i went back and reviewed that but i was like whatever im still killing NM

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i was powerless to resist

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swear to god if yall catch me townreading ydrasse ever again please reprimand me

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ye kill Ceph for the win

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Lmfao wait no i said very clearly

one of Gamma/Cephir

and one of Thor/DGB

Cephrir u fit very neatly as last scum there

i don't mind being elimed here.

fwiw, my towncase:
there's no reason for me to do what i did if i knew ydrasse had fired already
i didn't unvote, i deferred to enchant; fm scum pov, gamma should have been hammering at any moment

but it's fine.

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i would argue had ceph unvoted and ydrasse died it would have been disasterous

and yea ceph obviously bought ydrasses defense like everyone else but even if they knew ydrasse had fired im not sure you would continue pushing there that might look really fake

also its technically possible ceph didnt know ydrasse shot -- im guessing it wasnt super coordinated seeing as it missed and yet scum seemed to perfectly know all the masons this game thus far

Scum should have had like 2 VTs known by that point i think

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Okay so Enchant and DrippingGoofball are town

I thought Gamma was town pretty heavily but i mean maybe he was just killing Galron who he thought was town then to immediately push me as SK and we got the good ending where Galron is SK

Still scared of Ceph

im pretty sure one of Ydrasse/Thor is town at least

Arc is probably scum then. Or Mason but whatever

NM is probably scum or mason but whatever

Thor i do not see the light

pedit: oops

fair enof that is important

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i did not mean to quote that

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oops

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There is no way Enchant is scum There is no way Enchant is scum There is no way Enchant is scum There is no way Enchant is scum There is no way Enchant is scum

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sorri ceph

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i will miss your pocket

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I am definitely going to honour Ceph's wishes to elim Thor i mostly just kinda wanna see what thor does out of curiosity

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Also if Enchant is scum ill lose my mind

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Thor you werent towncasing me in order to get to me think "There's no way Thor defends me this good when im the next logical step after Cephrir" and are in fact trying to buddy me into siding with you on Enchant or something like that right

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that would be very mean

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No

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I'm town

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I wasn't expecting you to trust me to that extent

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I was kinda hoping Thor and I would crossvote and then you would be confirm town to be honest now im legitimately worried since i have the make the decision

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How paranoid of me were you?

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Oh yeah had you voted not!Ydrasse scum won right? I was afk for that part and also was hazy yesterday lmfao

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Voting thor for the win would have been exceptionally easy for scum you esp with cephrir and like ydrasse teaming up on him

I think that happened anyway

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Oh yeah Gamma was an even easier vote like that was easy game for you

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if you're scum you've been running victory laps for the past like three elims lol

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Im just gonna confirm the stuff that happened yesterday happened the way i remember but cant do that rn

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I dont think I could possibly vote Enchant when he could have won the game 3 phases ago and has literally no reason to have not done so other than make us suffer

I know DGB goes for anti partnery behaviour to some extent cause of Death Curse, I guess spewing Thor as town was a possible goal. It's probably more likely than A50 doing it intentionally to Enchant

You did only vote to help mafia wincon when given the opportunity, although Arc and NM were my own personal choices as well

Enchant voting Ydrasse was fucking bonkers

Enchant, out of curiosity, why did you choose Ydrasse to elim?

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I played a game recently where everyone mistakenly cleared scum because had scum voted for town, they could have won easily on the previous day since a lot of people were scumreading one of the townies

...but they didn't -- reason being, they weren't confident they could win quickly enough before people reconsidered, and one of their scumpartners was never around so they werent sure they had the votes. They wanted to secure a win more safely.

... It's... I writed post where i go to sleep and totally missed NM death.

3 VT
1 Mason
3 Mafia

WELCOME TO FUCKING ELO.

You were aware that killing a townie was GG

Cephrir + Gamma

Ceph going for the win?

These were Thor's picks during the Xylo

VOTE: thor
If I’m wrong so be it but I will not let myself be slaughtered
The goal is to be a goat in the Survivor sense not the literal sense

I might just revote. I dont think theres any possibility I ever don't vote thor here.

You had this wagon to insta win off of

I have a feeling Ceph is scum and he knows what he's doing here by forcing this issue

I'll follow you Enchant

Is the consensus on Cephrir?

You coulda done this

Cephrir and Thor scumread Gamma too

Literally the town-aligned players were eating eachother alive if you're scum

and YOU DO

YDRASSE

IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWED BY DGB

KILLING BOTH OF THEM

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There is absolutely no question in my mind you had Cephrir/Thor/Gamma as even easier eliminations than Ydrasse

Literally every single townie alive except like me was free

You knew it was 1 mislim to win

Ydrasse was completely out of left field

And had you not immediately killed DGB you still could have had the mason shot for the win but no you went DGB next which is so unnecessary but I guess if you're killing Ydrasse might as well go all the way

The only thing scummy about your play is how omniscient it is for a townie to make

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The best piece of evidence I can give is that I never treat my scum partner like this, and DGB never reacts like this if we're partners

I don't think I've ever interacted with a scum partner like this ever. It's very unnecessary for DGB and I as scum to both hard push each other in this manner when the most vital thing at that stage would be looking for masons and getting info from wagons on potential masons or VTs

Also, the reason why DGB's reaction is so bad is because they're either (1) trying to counterwagon someone since they were the main wagon
or (2) actually genuinely confused about the setup and thinks what I did was me as scum scumclaiming
(1) can't be the case because they're not gonna try to counterwagon a scum buddy,
and (2) can't be the case because scum have a PT and DGB would never be confused about what I did in the first place, since there would be communication

I think DGB was genuinely confused about the game lol

regardless of whether or not you're scum I have justified its behaviour by assuming it legitimately was confused

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Oh look at this, recently ended

This is way beyond what I thought was in Enchant's scumrange, it was foreshadowed lol

I would recommend reading his ISO there Morning

VOTE: Enchant

Looks like he was second most highly scumread player in the game, although I admit his tone is pretty good on a skim

He managed to get #1 townie in this game and also has thrown away the scum win entirely multiple times for no reason, I am just not sure there's a precedent for those

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DGB being confused also explains why it didnt use its dayvig, although maybe it was offline too

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Also if I were to kill town Enchant I know I'd have that hanging over my head probably forever by at least Gamma/Cephrir

The only thing I can really say that makes no sense is how Enchant was so good at picking scum!Ydrasse from the 3 town miselims

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Oh i see

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Ceph and Ydrssee either both mafia or Ceph not mafia at all.

Do you think Ydrssee it town, Thor?

VOTE: DGB

Alright, another shot. Now for sure.

If Ydrsee will be scum i would be not pleased but GG then.

You thought Ydrasse was sus all along, Thor persuaded you not to vote her at first but joined when u/ceph voted her

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And I mean Thor did help ydrasse quickhammer as Ceph said

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And Gamma also pointed out the same thing from Thor

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I think we're done here