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[Dragon of the West]

… I mean like a PT cop or TA can check me lol.

I don't believe the hood is fake because I think DGB seems genuine about it and wouldn't make up a fake hood as scum, but if you're scum you still have a PT sooo

[MathBlade]

… I mean like a PT cop or TA can check me lol.

I don't believe the hood is fake because I think DGB seems genuine about it and wouldn't make up a fake hood as scum, but if you're scum you still have a PT sooo

Fypov it’s possible I am scum with a hood yes. Not sure what your point is here. The bigger thing is when I die I flip neighbor or when DGB dies it flips neighbor.

I don’t expect both of us to make it to mid/late game so the issue resolved itself.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I have a meeting.

When you get back:

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=87397

I assume you mean this.

What am I looking for here?

An example of a towngame in stark contrast to the mini we just played. Actually all my completed games since returning to site have been town except large 233 and Osuka's Mini Normal "FIA WRC". You can look at any of them and probably none of them will look like this game

or

T3's mini normal we played together.

You'll also see examples of folks incorrectly scumreading me because I'm not playing the same way I did when I was town with them last time.

[Dragon of the West]

Math, I didn't out you. I voted you then you said you weren't going to be eliminated b/c u were a pr.

This is how I see it and I also have a townlean on Nero here. I think seeing him flip scum in 3d20 finally gives me at least a glimpse of his town v scum play and this seems like town!Nero

[Dragon of the West]

Who do you scumread?

Good question.

I'm tired of trying to humor Radioactive Man.

VOTE: Kerset

Could also vote DotW.

Tbh it just sounds like you're echoing Titus because you don't like that I have a scumlean on you

[Dragon of the West]

I guess it's time for me to cast a serious vote. A very serious one. One that has crossed the boundaries of seriousness that have ever been set.

Let's first define the pool (or as Math would put it.. "the range"): ssbm_Kyouko/Dragon of the West/Andresvmb/Kerset/Ythan/Wake88/DrippingGoofball/MathBlade/House

Now let's use this mathematically proven to work for finding a suitable vote target:

ssbm_Kyouko (Hickory)
Dragon of the West (dickory)
Andresvmb (dock)
Kerset (The mouse)
Ythan (went up)
Wake88 (the clock)
DrippingGoofball (The clock)
MathBlade (struck one)
House (The mouse)
ssbm_Kyouko (went down)
Dragon of the West (Hickory)
Andresvmb (dickory)
Kerset (dock)

VOTE: Kerset

Guys, I caught SCUM!

This post pings me. Reads similarly to how A50 acted in 235 where the whole time he was super jovial and unhelpful. I don't know if that's A50's schtick but it seems scum indicative to me

[Dragon of the West]

Blatantly getting chainsawed by Titus rn

Isn't she voting DotW?

Yeah, the mud isn't sticking so she moved. She starts subtly by TRing players that oppose the wagon I'm pushing, and gradually builds posts that discredit me, and also posts naked shade. Quotes below:

Spoiler:

Vote Count 1.05

Nero Cain (4)

- MathBlade, DrippingGoofball, House, Gamma Emerald

Gamma Emerald (3)

- Andresvmb, ssbm_Kyouko, Nero Cain

ssbm_Kyouko (1)

- Almost50

Cat Scatch Fever (1)

- Titus

Titus (1)

- Dragon of the West

Kerset (1)

- Cat Scratch Fever

Not voting (2)

: Wake88, Kerset

It takes

7

votes to eliminate.

Mod Notes:

Titus is V/LA today. Gamma Emerald is V/LA through the 24th of September.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-09-23 17:06:41)

Gamma wagon reeks.

Another reason House is town btw

Vote Count 1.01

ssbm_Kyouko (3)

- Gamma Emerald, Cat Scratch Fever, DrippingGoofball

Titus (1)

- Dragon of the West

Kerset (1)

- ssbm_Kyouko

Nero Cain (1)

- MathBlade

Mathblade (1)

- Nero Cain

Cat Scatching Fever (1)

- Titus

DrippingGoofball (1)

- House

Not voting (4)

: Wake88, Kerset, Andresvmb, Almost50

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-09-23 17:06:41)

VOTE: ssbm_Kyouko

Just an opportunistic vote on the largest wagon. I don't even know why anyone is voting anyone else.

Like A50 as town.

y Titus? b/c she's kinda active lurking?

If you're asking why, it helps not to give an out to sheep.

y Titus? b/c she's kinda active lurking?

If you're asking why, it helps not to give an out to sheep.

Self-conscious much? You're not exactly a popular scumread I don't think. Who am I sheeping?

You didn't answer Nero's question. You could just copy his suggestion was my point.

VOTE: Nero
The amount of time it took him to vote DGB is unreal, it’s clear his initial push against the neighborhood was sowing seeds of paranoia.

VOTE: Gamma

Don't care for the opportunism of this vote.

With leading questions in the hood, like the leading questions scum!you asked me about town!titus in our last game. I was specifically curious if there was anything like that in the PT, but didnt want to lead DGB there myself in case it is scum, and I don't think from its explanation that it is very likely that you led it there.

But yes, I am paranoid about you having manipulated DGB inside the hood specifically because of our last game.

Interesting. I am flagging this for later.

It's odd because it supposes DGB is lead astray with leading questions when its more fooled by reinforcement.

I'm voting DGB and then when/if DGB flips scum I'm going to target Gamma and House

This has wacky phrasing and warped perspective, plus it feels a bit performative when the pressure is probably more on Nero than DGB rn

yeah this is actually the second post in my catchup that I've seen from Nero that is missing a word. Sign of editing and rewording posts, but not proofreading them after edits. Like when you change the verb tense so that all of your sentences match but forget to change another word somewhere so it

doesn't looks right

(edited from

looks wrong

). <-- An example of what I'm describing

Is this a response to something?

Like this. I basically ignored the semantic stuff too.

Bumping Titus out of POE-tier into scumread-tier with Ythan. Hadn't realized how out of hand she'd gotten until I went back through her ISO to address this

VOTE: Titus

I disagree with the conclusion of scum!Titus but I think this is town!Kyo thought process

[Dragon of the West]

OK.. DotW is probably Town according to my sophisticated (and most intelligent) scum hunting method. I am working on a full analysis of the game and will be publishing me findings along with the detailed method shortly. My aim is to offer you a full solve of a 3-person Mafia team

This just doesn't feel real. I had like 10 posts when he said this, there's no way he had a meaningful read on me yet to say this aside from trying to pocket me.

I really think this is scum!A50

[Andresvmb]

Alright let’s see what’s happened since I’ve been away.

[Dragon of the West]

I just want to end this day regardless of who the lim land on, myself.

Even me

.

This is scum acting indifferent to seem town. It's a plainly anti-town attitude to have. Gamma did the same thing as scum in 3d20

[Dwlee99]

Vote Count 1.17

Dragon of the West (E-2)

- Titus, Cat Scratch Fever, Almost50, House, MathBlade

Titus (2)

- ssbm_Kyouko, Nero Cain

MathBlade (2)

- Dragon of the West, Ythan

Ythan (1)

- Andresvmb

Almost50 (1)

- Wake88

Cat Scratch Fever (1)

- Kerset

Not voting (1)

: DrippingGoofball

It takes

7

votes to eliminate.

Mod Notes:

House and Titus are VLA through the 20th of September.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-09-23 17:06:41)

[Dragon of the West]

Gamma and CSF aren't scum together.

I agree with this because I think the Gamma/Ythan slot is town but why do you think they specifically couldn't be scum together?

[Almost50]

This post pings me. Reads similarly to how A50 acted in 235 where the whole time he was super jovial and unhelpful. I don't know if that's A50's schtick but it seems scum indicative to me

Just because a



is acting



doesn't make them a p

[Dragon of the West]

Wake88
Andresvmb
Kerset
Almost50
Dragon of the West

If scum!House, I think it's likely they put at least one buddy this low in their list. FMPOV that leaves:
Wake - inactive prior to this post
Andres - I don't think it's this slot. I like their intro for town
Kerset - Not enough activity for me to have a strong gauge without me having prior experience with them
A50 - I definitely scumread this slot

[Almost50]

A50 - I definitely scumread this slot

Of course you do. Now where is your vote???

[Almost50]

Dragon calls House Scum, and is looking for a partner on House's readlist, but his vote is stuck on Mathblade (who isn't even in House's bottom 5). Solid case, bro.

[Dragon of the West]

Why, DGB?

A pattern of opportunism, questions without follow through, and 0-calorie posts to pad the post count and simulate presence.

You think so?

I found her posts to be rather fattening. I've put on 5 pounds since she started participating.

Example? This just feels like you defending a slot you know is town

[Dragon of the West]

VOTE: DotW

Distancing

Again, nothing of substance here

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I have my family coming into town next week. I'll be officially V/LA from Sept 21st-26th but am going to be busy getting things ready for them over the weekend as well.

[Kerset]

VOTE: DotW

Distancing

Again, nothing of substance here

Distancing means that you are both scum

[Kerset]

In case you flip red do you want us to kill A50 next?

[Ythan]

Whew.

VOTE: Math

Worse than Nero from that everything-at-once read.

Probably look at some isos next but not right this second.

Naked votes are unacceptable at this point in the game.

Just saying it doesn't make it true.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Ythan what do you think of Dragon and his wagon (not necessarily the votes, but the voters) atm?

From what I can gather from 1344 and a quick skim of your iso, your catchup has resulted in 2 scumreads on Math and Nero and a TR on House. Vote is on Math because he's more scummy than Nero, but you still SR Nero, correct?

Seems like the focus of the game is on Dragon right now as his wagon prevails, but your posts/catchup are not focused there. That could be a good thing.

Also, do you think Nero and Math could be scum together?

[Ythan]

Dragon is one of the isos I'll be looking at first when I start doing that probably this evening. Initial reaction from all at once read is that he doesn't seem scummy but it's hard to follow along with thirteen people all posting at once sometimes.

[Dragon of the West]

Good luck figuring that out. I play different and wild all the time.

In general that makes it more difficult to Scumread you, but also Townread you.

Not a huge fan of Wakes's entrance. Like this is just saying something to say nothing