Large normal 236 [Game over]

[GrandpaMo]

first ego

[GrandpaMo]

also it's my first time posting a post from mobile also hi VOTE: Almost50 I'm sure u have missed me :'k


pedit: won't be suprised if that's scum^

[GrandpaMo]

First?!
Sup nerds and dwlee and dkkoba

VOTE: Hakai

Pedit: of course I wont get first if I read the rules

I read the rules and still got first

[GrandpaMo]

lemme propose a crazy, fucking read.

scum is most likely to call out 1 or 2+ random ppl and never vote any of the aforementioned players. therefore ssbm is scum, aye I haven't seen not disproven.

[GrandpaMo]

pedit: won't be suprised if that's scum^

Why?

it's not srs but in serious terms it would come off as like hey I'm gonna place my vote here and coast tf out of this game till tonight. so don't give me attention till I'm back

[GrandpaMo]

also why haven't anyone said hi to me

[GrandpaMo]

What is "aye I haven't seen not disproven"?

lol I thought it would be obvious, " I haven't seen it be dosproven'

[GrandpaMo]

pedit: won't be suprised if that's scum^

Why?

it's not srs but in serious terms it would come off as like hey I'm gonna place my vote here and coast tf out of this game till tonight. so don't give me attention till I'm back

Or it's a strictly nocturnal night nurse going to bed right now?

I literally said it wasn't serious relaxation

[GrandpaMo]

also why haven't anyone said hi to me

Maybe they just haven't turbo tunneled you, and you them, in previous games and gradually built up an friendship yet.

true koba should say hi to me tho :')

[GrandpaMo]

ur just jealous I'm the only one tryna start the game and fuck over rvs

[GrandpaMo]

Kyouko can you give me a blue hair version of that avatar.

can u give me a pink one as well, I would love to change my pfp to that, if u don't mind )

[GrandpaMo]

Uhh if it stayed pixelated after I saved it and I can just do the colors and paint dump, yeah. I've seen paint make it not pixelated anymore after you save and blend the colors though, in which case this took like an hour to make and idk if I feel like doing that

FINE

don't worry nee ill make some for us

[GrandpaMo]

I'll post in mason chat...

[GrandpaMo]

Damn it I missed a spot at the bottom

damn, where is my pink one

[GrandpaMo]

No I'm informed that GrandpaMo is in this game

hi...

[GrandpaMo]

ok listen there will be a claim on post 117.

trust.

[GrandpaMo]

VOTE: LicketyQuickety

I had to do this. The name is just asking for a vote.

I'm a one shot town alligned compulsive triggered publishing rolecop where my trigger is when I die ur role gets revealed to everyone

[GrandpaMo]

VOTE: LicketyQuickety

I had to do this. The name is just asking for a vote.

I'm a one shot town alligned compulsive triggered publishing rolecop where my trigger is when I die ur role gets revealed to everyone

maybe just replace it with sacrificicial actually

[GrandpaMo]

also sorry Andre I had to fake claim to just to tease u.

[GrandpaMo]

That isn't normal

ik it's just because Andre got mad at me for fake claiming in our game

[GrandpaMo]

don't talk bout it anymore just noticed it's still not over^^

[GrandpaMo]

I'll post in mason chat...

wait for me

if ur joining our chat then um it's a neighbor chat, because ur just the one scum in our neighborhood

[GrandpaMo]

played on mafia.gg for a while but I didn't like the community.... so here I am.

wait what was ur username lol

[GrandpaMo]

not to townslip but i thought we were in a mini normal for a second and was looking for a team of 3 like a dummy LMFAOOOOOOOOO

ok finally someone said it

I was deadass just gonna say something but everyone is gonna be like u fake town slipped then just post it anyways for easy towncred as town

but then I realized I played too many normal normals and this is my first large. genuine question tho, how much mafia do we usually have?

[GrandpaMo]

It doesn't stick out to me any more than dance videos or cringeposting. It feels like some players are still in RVS, and Nero is one of them.

What makes the post so special to you?

LOL get owned @nero

[GrandpaMo]

oh yeah i lied about townreading andres i wanted to just see reactions to it lmao

forgot to say since ur neg utuility ur in my mason chat now. just asked mod to invite u (total mod error)

[GrandpaMo]

It feels like some players are still in RVS, and Nero is one of them.

I’m no expert, but this is definitely wrong.

yea we aren't in res anymore unfortunately. I can't meme around

[GrandpaMo]

ok ok relax relax. why we at page 25.

and @loftwing , i kinda lowkey high key disagree with that!

scum would be taking advantage of being the high poster .

i think its more likely to have 2 scum engaging useful convo that way attention isn't drawn to lurking / coasting.

[GrandpaMo]

ego reminder to catch up later on today

been busy and have a game tmr. so might not be able to post by today -- ill try my best after i finish all my work

@mod: I will be V/LA as well through Monday as well (i will probably try to still talk in the thread but will be limited).

[GrandpaMo]

ok ok relax relax. why we at page 25.

and @loftwing , i kinda lowkey high key disagree with that!

scum would be taking advantage of being the high poster .

i think its more likely to have 2 scum engaging useful convo that way attention isn't drawn to lurking / coasting.

are you trying to indirectly shade me?

no i think ur town

[GrandpaMo]

ok nee is town lol

[GrandpaMo]

this large game is boring, i want a 1v1 to happen already lmfao

like everyone in this game have so far just pilllow pushed ppl as either an overreach or just an underreach , or scumread ppl for no reason

this probably hints at mafia is one of the people being engaged -- town is helpin scum atm.

we need to get a standarized push going >> that person then gets pressured >> that person reacts >> AI of either town or scum.

[GrandpaMo]

vc

ur so bad

[GrandpaMo]

look at my bad take on my pfp :')

[GrandpaMo]

Your posts are only bare-bone to me. WHERE is your reasons for having them there? WHY do you keep just posting real brief sentences? I want to know why YOU are keeping it so brief and cagey. I feel like you're holding back, and it's tripping my gut.

u sound like a newb scum that is tyring to pressure someone for having short (not caring responses to questions you ask)

ik this because i did this lol

[GrandpaMo]

VOTE COUNT 1.3

With 16 players alive it takes 9 to eliminate

ssbm_Kyouko (6): DkKoba, LicketyQuickety, Almost50, Hakai, NorwegianBoyEE, Dwlee99,
Dwlee99 (2): Rannygazoo, Wake88,
Andresvmb (1): Titus,
Almost50 (1): GrandpaMo,
LicketyQuickety (1): Nero Cain,
DkKoba (1): ssbm_Kyouko,
Hakai (1): Loftwing,
NorwegianBoyEE (1): Andresvmb,
Wake88 (0):
Loftwing (0):
Titus (0):
GrandpaMo (0):
Nero Cain (0):
MargotRosa (0):
Kop (0):
Rannygazoo (0):

Not voting (2): MargotRosa, Kop,

Deadline: (expired on 2021-10-02 17:00:00)

V/LA: ssbm_Kyouko & GrandpaMo & Rannygazoo party till Monday

wait i just saw this why is ssbm the highest wagon can anyone giv me tldr

[GrandpaMo]

Your posts are only bare-bone to me. WHERE is your reasons for having them there? WHY do you keep just posting real brief sentences? I want to know why YOU are keeping it so brief and cagey. I feel like you're holding back, and it's tripping my gut.

u sound like a newb scum that is tyring to pressure someone for having short (not caring responses to questions you ask)

ik this because i did this lol

Bullshit.

He's holding back and not playing the game. That's a red flag to me, and if Dwlee flips Scum then I'll be coming for you next. If you're Town you don't hold back like you're afraid to engage and share with other players. The more players engage the more chances Scum has to slip. And I think you understand that, so for you to try to block me engaging Dwlee is really something.

bro I'm doing the same shit why aren't u scum reading me lol. I haven't contributed shit other than just call out some ppl town or scum without reason LOL.

2nd I disagree; that's when the TSTBS read comes into play. ask your self, "does scum really act obvious by acting intentionally anti town by not answering questions nor responding"

most of the time the answer is no.

no I'm not defending them its just ur so stuck on this narrative that u look scum for pressuring someone that u know won't give answer back. I did this in one of my game and I believe it was t3 or a low activity slot. they would just post something ever day or sum and give no reasoning nor any engaging content and I kept acting mad on purpose to push that slot I kept saying "oh town is supposed to be actually trying, why isn't no one scum reading them etc etc" and I realized then after that game as scum that ppl don't scumread them because not everyone has an analytical play style.

look at ur sig, ur known for analytical reasoning so that's probably why ur pushing them.

now, if u want to progress this interaction I advise u to step back and look at the bigger picture and find pairs with dweele if u scumread them that much.

now I'ma do the same thing u did....

pro town analyze their choices. not tunnel someone to death after knowing they won't give u any more budge

[GrandpaMo]

ok listen

[GrandpaMo]

(unrelated, remember that video that I said I was editing? It's done and up on my YT channel.)



I would like to see more from the players in the red box of doom

well i was vla, and if anyone knows me, everyone knows me as a high poster // posting count

look at my sig kek

[GrandpaMo]

Maybe we should start a push on GrandpaMo. They have an anime avatar, which is not acceptable.

is this serious?

[GrandpaMo]

ik ur joking. but i feel like there is some discrpenmcy that you want it to be serious. like why make this public?

[GrandpaMo]

Pressure isn't pressure if it doesn't actually carry a threat of dying with it. Wtf

loftwing is just scum. let's switch to him and then we can get kyouko after.

i think by reading the couple last pages -- i agree

[GrandpaMo]

@loft r u scujrmeading / townreading nee

[GrandpaMo]

omg 62

[GrandpaMo]

Maybe we should start a push on GrandpaMo. They have an anime avatar, which is not acceptable.

is this serious?

The first part is. You hadn't really said much this game quite yet, and I nearly forgot you were in the game until recently.

fair enough.

but i was asking that question due to the first part actually.

i do believe i have had some AI stuff at that point of the game that could make you think im eitehr maf or town

[GrandpaMo]

It’s frustrating, if this game wasn’t filled with so many bad players just dicking around we would have already eliminated scum!SSB and been on our way to the second scum elimination already.

is this also serious

[GrandpaMo]

@loft r u scujrmeading / townreading nee

also u never answer this question --

this question was important in terms of scumreading / townreading u.

and u ignorning it could have been a vital reason that could make me think you are mafia for ignorning (smart on your side)

tho if u did actually miss it, answer it now and give me ur thoughts if u were on that earlier page (basically asking how was ur read on nee back then) and give me ur tohughts on them now

[GrandpaMo]

Almost all the game is just blegh... like no actual readable content.

this just sounds like filler content at the most.

[GrandpaMo]

VOTE COUNT 1.8

With 16 players alive it takes 9 to eliminate

ssbm_Kyouko (6): Almost50, NorwegianBoyEE, Dwlee99, Hakai, Andresvmb, DkKoba,
Titus (2): LicketyQuickety, cool cookie,
cool cookie (2): Titus, Rannygazoo,
Dwlee99 (2): Wake88, Loftwing,
NorwegianBoyEE (1): Nero Cain,
Loftwing (1): MargotRosa,
Almost50 (1): GrandpaMo,
DkKoba (1): ssbm_Kyouko,
LicketyQuickety (0):
Nero Cain (0):
Hakai (0):
Wake88 (0):
GrandpaMo (0):
Andresvmb (0):
MargotRosa (0):
Rannygazoo (0):

Not voting (0):

Deadline: (expired on 2021-10-02 17:00:00)

V/LA: Wake88 till Tuesday

ssbm flips town , sad

[GrandpaMo]

VOTE: Hakai

[GrandpaMo]

im mostly wary of those following dkkoba reads, as it's a very easy way to stay out of the limelight. Dwlee99 is of interest, not only for that reason, but to look at later.

Do you think Koba is town and scum are sheeping, or do you think Koba is scum trying to strongarm the game?

this is a red flag - it was very clear i think that i was implying the former, so setting up the latter may be a bit of misrep/distancing from the truth.

I will address this point -- I straight up do not remember why I asked this. I thought I was going to expose something about your motivations, but looking at it now, it's an obvious question.

However, your weird combination of wishy-washyness and tunneling feels unnatural, and unnatural feel scummy. I wouldn't mind eliminating you now, but I don't want you to be my vanity wagon.

@titus join forces?

what sorry?

but reading this back, i just realized this post is a bad response.

cool cookie's was acutally a not bad response. i dont know if ur push was a reaction test or what -- but you look worse due to u being more artiifical like.

you are pushing cookie for being wish washy in their statement -- but i can cleraly understand what they sent, they have mentioned and referenced this type of writing in their older posts, why not point them out till now ? why wait till this post?

[GrandpaMo]

an overall reflection would be there seem to be lots of folk not doing / saying much and getting away with it, i'm not sure if that's a good situation

eh.

the moral of what i usually go by is that we lim the people who have talked becuase once we get into a smaller game throughout the days that forces ppl to be more active .

[GrandpaMo]

all kyouko's claim does is add more to why she is scum because she has not played the game like a self clearing PR at all - while norwee and I have

they claimed lol ?

[GrandpaMo]

im not succeeding at being agreeable, as pretty much everyone has disagreed with me so far, perhaps because my opinions are too controversial! thanks for complement tho, maybe i will live with my name as my motto

im ok with dying today though if there are no better options - just want my last request to do a final readslist before the hammer

scum never plays lamist in a large normal.

this is town.

[GrandpaMo]

Hi, barely reading this thread, but I think I want to go here:

VOTE: cookie

Could be just a nice individual, but I get the sense they are Newb Scum trying to be agreeable rather than just being an agreeable person in general.

eh they are putting themselves out there.

[GrandpaMo]

the fact our claim is being put under scrutiny like this is not helping a potential 3rd mason partner hide and yall are making it much harder when its fucking blatant that norwee/i played in such a blatant manner with townreading eachother with ease that yknow! we're towny as fuck.

wait u actually claimed?

[GrandpaMo]

OMG WHO IS CLAIMING WHO FFS

[GrandpaMo]

ssbm is a claimed FN

koba/norway are claimed masons

ok i believe both claims

koba is just bad

but iwill sheeop this vote

[GrandpaMo]

or maybe this discussion is over and i'm not helping leak any more mason info that doesn't need outting anymore.

dont care if you dont believe our claim, being annoying about it is anti town and unnecessary.

oop what happened, who hurt u

i will kill them at night for u

[GrandpaMo]

dont care if you dont believe our claim, being annoying about it is anti town and unnecessary.

I wouldn't say that fakeclaiming masons is townie and necessary.

this might have been a perspective slip. might be a reach but won't elaborate till further notice.

[GrandpaMo]

dont care if you dont believe our claim, being annoying about it is anti town and unnecessary.

I wouldn't say that fakeclaiming masons is townie and necessary.

this might have been a perspective slip. might be a reach but won't elaborate till further notice.

if anyone else sees it pls say something

[GrandpaMo]

dont care if you dont believe our claim, being annoying about it is anti town and unnecessary.

I wouldn't say that fakeclaiming masons is townie and necessary.

this might have been a perspective slip. might be a reach but won't elaborate till further notice.

No, I've been clear about my perspective.

I’m not scumreading you but I wish you wouldn’t lie about being mason.

that makes it worse lol il explain later

[GrandpaMo]

i think you're outted scum.

[GrandpaMo]

attention ALL Mafia gamers - cyclone NEEDS your help! he has been accused of cheating AGAIN. all you need to do to save cyclone is post your credit cards NUMBER and those SILLY numbers on the back. Do it quickly! as cyclone might be banned before you can save him!

[GrandpaMo]

i dont care if u dont believe us, just pretend to for 1 day phase.

Fine.

this is so scum

[GrandpaMo]

attention ALL Mafia gamers - cyclone NEEDS your help! he has been accused of cheating AGAIN. all you need to do to save cyclone is post your credit cards NUMBER and those SILLY numbers on the back. Do it quickly! as cyclone might be banned before you can save him!

too bad he is already preemptively banned from this site after he refused to show any remorse for his actions lmao

wait what he's banned from here too?

[GrandpaMo]

attention ALL Mafia gamers - cyclone NEEDS your help! he has been accused of cheating AGAIN. all you need to do to save cyclone is post your credit cards NUMBER and those SILLY numbers on the back. Do it quickly! as cyclone might be banned before you can save him!

Wrong thread?

no just a copypasta i found in a server that koba knows the reference to

[GrandpaMo]

i dont care if u dont believe us, just pretend to for 1 day phase.

Fine.

this is so scum

look u are not known for ur accuracy - like this is not a fucking scumtell - its ranny having this kind of personality.

to conclude its scum is silly.

i have thought ranny has been consistently towny this game im just annoyed they wont sheep me.

relaxation relaxation. i actually have imrpoved on my accuracy, and played well in my town games calling out town games. u havent either -- so dont be hypocrite buddy

listen, i get that u wanna push ssbm, i get it.

but all these low activity posters voting for them makes it iffy for them. im not hesitant to vote them i just want to keep waiting -- hear what the other side has to side.

fn + mason is usually common fwiw

[GrandpaMo]

who cares the bus train left a long time ago, i already smoked her, people are just trying to pretend like its too good to be true/are scum trying their best to last second save their scumbud.

can u giv me psot numebr of that interaction happening ?

[GrandpaMo]

no. i dont need to prove shit anymore

my read is that kyouko is scum and i have a good read rate on her + im 99% clear -> ergo you should sheep the fuck out of that read.

within 24 hours i should be able to even add to that.

mf

im asking u to give post number not prove anything -- i will do all that on my own analysis i just wanna be able to scumcase ssbm and see what ur talking bout

thats all just one post number

[GrandpaMo]

i will sheep if u do so

[GrandpaMo]

lol this flips town koba

im telling u pls

[GrandpaMo]

im dyng tonight so get ranny + the person i voted haiku or sum?

[GrandpaMo]

these ppl on the wagon rlly makes it seem like ssbm is town

[GrandpaMo]

IK IM SO LATE BUT HOLD ON WAIT THIS IS ACTUALLY HILARIOUS.

I KNEW SSBM WAS GONNA FLIP RED AND I THINK KOBA KNEW WHAT I WAS DOING LOL

[GrandpaMo]

summary of my opinion on Grandpa—i think i agree with a lot of their takes, but I think they're +rand to be scum if that makes any sense.

pedit: won't be suprised if that's scum^

Why?

it's not srs but in serious terms it would come off as like hey I'm gonna place my vote here and coast tf out of this game till tonight. so don't give me attention till I'm back

honestly feel like this would be a different post if grandpa was town. it's hypothetically justifying an rvs fos in like the first page but then saying "it's not srs." if it's not serious you don't have to justify it

this large game is boring, i want a 1v1 to happen already lmfao

like everyone in this game have so far just pilllow pushed ppl as either an overreach or just an underreach , or scumread ppl for no reason

this probably hints at mafia is one of the people being engaged -- town is helpin scum atm.

we need to get a standarized push going >> that person then gets pressured >> that person reacts >> AI of either town or scum.

okay can you actually do things instead of telling town what you think they should do? this is a fundamentally bad post

Pressure isn't pressure if it doesn't actually carry a threat of dying with it. Wtf

loftwing is just scum. let's switch to him and then we can get kyouko after.

i think by reading the couple last pages -- i agree

i do not know how to feel here (like it feels like this post should be AI i just can't figure out which direction it's AI in, if that makes any sense. I want to say "scum" but I feel like that's simply confirmation biased/halo effected so I'm gonna just save this post for later when we get more info

It’s frustrating, if this game wasn’t filled with so many bad players just dicking around we would have already eliminated scum!SSB and been on our way to the second scum elimination already.

is this also serious

no. i dont need to prove shit anymore

my read is that kyouko is scum and i have a good read rate on her + im 99% clear -> ergo you should sheep the fuck out of that read.

within 24 hours i should be able to even add to that.

mf

im asking u to give post number not prove anything -- i will do all that on my own analysis i just wanna be able to scumcase ssbm and see what ur talking bout

thats all just one post number

lol this flips town koba

im telling u pls

i genuinely feel like you haven't been adding content to the game even though your takes when you make them are sometimes good. it almost feels like you're simply picking low hanging fruit by taking positions against the majority even though you refuse to defend those positions and will probably abandon them if it becomes convenient. does that make sense?

what broski?

relaxation

I will update my perspective

[GrandpaMo]

also im like the only non voter conf town.

2 scum was on the ssbm vote fyi

scum had no reason not to bus nor to defend.

I think it just negates the null hypothesis -- making it more likely that scum was on it just by how ssbm was just a bad player overall in this game and heavy pushed against kobo

[GrandpaMo]

charlemagne replaces Nero Cain

@charlemagne, please refrain from talking in the thread until mod publicly announces u

[GrandpaMo]

okay can you actually do things instead of telling town what you think they should do? this is a fundamentally bad post

eh I kinda don't like your analysis on me.

tbh --- you literally go on about how im a bad player then townread me?

r u like saying im tests? like come on man that's my thing to townread ppl on.

like do u realize there was nothing in that game happening and you realize that there was no reason to push anyone from my perspective so I was just saying for a 1v1 to happen so analysis could spill -- its more of dramatic irony I believe

but yea

[GrandpaMo]

This isn’t a thing btw. Reads can’t be genuine if they’re coming from Scum. They can only be strategic if they’re coming from Scum. It’s why when LQ described their own post as strategic, it raised some eyebrows.

hard disagree

I was scum before and I gave genuine reads because I have tmi.

I can say this person is scum for not contributing then someone will sheep me and say I agree this person hasn't been contributing and therefore is scummy

that person who shipped me is town
and said the same thing as I did

what's the difference?

my allignment? that still doesn't mean that my read was genuine

now what if I was doing that to my scum partner if I were scum, like I was bussing and someone sheeped me on that player being scum as well (which they were scum)

[GrandpaMo]

How can you type texts that i can read word for word, yet feel like i didn't actually read anything.

thats why u had matching pfps with scum

[GrandpaMo]

the thing is no matter what you do, short of voting a very likely townie - it will be something i want because I am 95% sure i have PoE'd the whole scum team

This seems like really, really poor reasoning. If you're town, your priors of getting the entire scum team from a random sampling of three players (out of 14 not including you) is 3/14*2/13*1/12 or 0.27%. There can't be

that

many people you consider mechanically town—I'm not sure exactly what you believe, but I don't think that you've said anyone is locktown except House/Titus (correct me if I'm wrong.) That leaves 12 others, so a 3/12*2/11*1/10 or a 0.45% chance of guessing three players and having them being a scumteam. Koba, you're saying you're 95% sure you've PoE'd the whole scum team, which means that your reads based off meta+flips are somehow

one hundred and ninety times better than random.

I really don't understand how you get there, because I don't think that any player in existence (including xyz top amazing wonderful beautiful scumhunters, or even top amazing scumhunters who are intimately familiar with the meta of every player in the game) can be 190x +rand.

Can you walk the rest of the players in this game through the process where you go from the priors to your current state of confidence? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and honestly I haven't seen those thought processes spelled out where anyone here can be anywhere near as confident as you in your claims.
I'm really conflicted here. To the best of my knowledge you have a reputation for being overconfident/tunneling like this in games when you are town, so I'm hesitant to say this is especially scum indicative, but on the other hand I'd think town you should know better.

koba can you like. respond to this please

tell me why i thought u were like radiant at first

[GrandpaMo]

wow i won a game without doing nothing . how was i mech cleared before a50 came out?

[GrandpaMo]

Gg all .
If t3 tried we could have had the perfect.

Also id love to nominate people for a scummy here but im not gonna exclude myself:p
Amazingly played norwee/a50/house in particular

honestly i lowkey play mama or whoever started that push on t3 because it was a weak push. t3 is known for not trying in big games so knowing t3's meta there could have been good. ig no one had leads by then ? so i was just assuming we were grabbing stuff for lead but i woul dhave probeably looked at ppl who did interact. tldr; i dont blame t3 fully for this