Final Fantasy XIV - A Realm Reborn Mafia (Game Over)

[Sakura Hana]

I would actually be happier if EJ left the raid.

[Mandelbrot]

I would actually be happier if EJ left the raid.

100%

- House

[Mystic Bears]

Jesus fucking actual christ. ok speediest catchup i've ever done. lets go.

[Mandelbrot]

@Elsa

if you insist on staying in this raid, make the most of your night action because I'm gunning for you toMorrow unless there's another hard guilty outed.

- House

[mastina]

Inb4 it was actually a town player that interfered with me

I mean, possible, but this at least helps me buy that you're town, which helps.

Should just give 19 names to be safe... oh wait.

I'd do it as top/bottom half of playerlist, honestly. (Also is this game really only 19 players? I thought it was more than that.)

[Mandelbrot]

Inb4 it was actually a town player that interfered with me

I mean, possible, but this at least helps me buy that you're town, which helps.

Should just give 19 names to be safe... oh wait.

I'd do it as top/bottom half of playerlist, honestly. (Also is this game really only 19 players? I thought it was more than that.)

We were 21.

1 lim
1 nk

We are 19.

- House

[mastina]

I'm counter claiming if that wasnt obvious.

I believe this. I also believe it was unnecessary since I don't think TC was serious in their own doctor claim.

ArcAngel
Whemestar
SirCakez
Elsa
Save the Dragons
Titus
Tictac
^ My scumpool.

Honestly the only two in there I wouldn't eliminate are Titus (townread there) and tictac (play isn't really that town but looks passably town + Tomorrow Corporation was apparently serious in claiming tictac was town so between passable townness + TC tictac is out of the scum pool for me).

So I would legitimately genuinely eliminate any, preferably most/all, of {ArcAngel9, WhemeStar, SirCakez, Elsa Jay, Save the Dragons}.

I'd be shocked if that group had less than 2 scum in it;
I'd expect it to be 2-4. So like, at least three.

[Elsa Jay]

I would actually be happier if EJ left the raid.

@Elsa

if you insist on staying in this raid, make the most of your night action because I'm gunning for you toMorrow unless there's another hard guilty outed.

- House

I'm using what's given to me as someone who phone posts immediately and watches for daystart.

And don't just yell at me either. At the very least I don't like some of the people signing up for these being townie. Frankly anyone getting off now means the next two in line (considering Cake is basically doing nothing) and I don't want Tomorrow in this either.

At the very least I know I'm preventing some scum getting in.

[Mystic Bears]

There's an implication in 2084 that the guilty'd player hasnt posted yet, at least not since the hard guilty was announced. Which means none of those posters were it.
If what you say is true it's highly likely the guilty'd player did post now.

Probably [MB, RealC]

The first part makes sense. The last part is just no.

But what if we elim before she gives us a name? To spice things up a bit.

Are you trying to flip my read of you?

If so, you're succeeding.

- House

Mmmmmmm

I stand by my hammer yesterday, if anyone wants to flesh it out.

Game was a bit stagnant, we were on Day 10(?) and discussion about anything was pretty much done. No significant pushes against any player had been made. Mom hadn't posted in 2 days, and T3 backed up the fact she has a lurkscum meta. Half her votes came like 2 pages prior to end of day, someone put her at E-1 when E-2 is usually the holding ground, and then dwlee spazzed out with the extra votes on a lurk slot.

Seemed to me hammering was a good idea. If you disagree, you can blow it out your shorts .

This is such an odd post.

Any hammer without a claim that’s not an hour before deadline is a bad hammer

Agreed.

I feel like waiting on the guilty is kind of dumb but I’m dumb so maybe it’s not dumb

Seems like the day will inevitably result in us orbiting and waiting to see who the guilty is on so talked about a stalled day

10/10 a town Noraa post to make. Full of self awareness and social anxiety or maybe I'm just imagining the latter part.

House, I feel Dwlee is town.

As on now:

ArcAngel9 - SUPER TOWN MAMA
Qrow and Raven (Gamma Emerald + Nancy Drew 39) - Was reading them scum but they could be town.
Titus - No clue
Toogeloo - Yet to discover
mastina - I am surprised by her playstyle on this game. I want to hear more.
Elsa Jay - No clue
Sakura Hana - Probably Town
Whemestar - Yet to discover
RealCheeks (RCEnigma + CheekyTeeky) - TBD
SirCakez - Probably town
Save The Dragons - Town
Head One and Head Two (T3 + ManateeGal) - Null
dwlee99 - SCUM
tictac - TBD
Momrangal - Null
Mystic Bears (Noraa + Flea the Magician) - Probably Scum
Mandelbrot (House + Yume) - TOWN
Romance - TBD
Bell - Probably town

Mirio - Probably Scum

Tomorrow Corporation - TBD

Partially back today.. No big changes from my last reads!!

I am down to eliminating either Mystic Bears or Dwlee,

We can elim this tomorrow.

I'm a doc so I'm happy to save Romance tonight. I'm also not over the fact that I was disallowed from joining yesterday's RAID.

@mod: Et tu, Brute?

This is just scum unless Sakura is scum which is not true given this counterclaim.

Okay anyways.
VOTE: SirCakez

There’s enough info in D1 for this to feel easy and I don’t wanna drag out half the day teasing this.

Arcangel / Wheme are the top suspects for me based on what they have said about Cakez/what Cakez said about them.

Wagon ahoy!!! [edited: we don't want hammer yet]

I mean... I can believe Sakura is doctor. It makes her earlier statement of "being right but still failed" make more sense.

Yeah, i basically healed mirio but he still died.
Was mad because i've literally never managed to save someone as a doctor, and the one time i was right something interfered with me.
Initially thought strongman, but the current raid reward makes me think it's probably not the case.

scum Roleblocker/strongman stop doctors. What does that have to do with the raid?

Honestly, it's a little annoying that I've been throwing all kinds of hints that we're a PR to attract a NK to save town power just to have half the player list drop trou on d2.

- House

Add me to the pile. Powerful pr # Noraa

skim skim skim

Let me reword, it's actually not unlikely that mystic bears would play with hydra dissonance to their advantage.
I just have no idea if they're doing that here. People have their own opinions about how to play hydras and how they play hydras can vary quite wildly.

For example, I basically play hydras as independent players sharing an alignment and don't try to think things through together.

What. Flea has posted like twice. Where is the dissonance?

Still weirded out by Massy's townread on me but so many scummy people. We leave her be for now. Massy should get on the raid and guarantee it goes thru.

[mastina]

VOTE: SirCakez

I see the guilty.
I believe the guilty.
I also see no reason to join the wagon on the guilty as stating my other suspicions beyond the guilty and backing them up with a vote is better imo.

SirCakez is going to be the elimination today.

No ifs, ands, or buts, about that.

But I don't feel compelled to vote him and not do anything else.

[mastina]

Could do, but first this raid needs to succeed with 0 scum in it, so i cant be roleblocked and scum cant strongman.
Was originally planning on Healing Romance.

For that matter: if any of Elsa Jay, STD, or ArcAngel9 (and to some extent, WhemeStar) are on today's raid:

I'd consider that a scumclaim from them.

Dead serious.

[Sakura Hana]

scum Roleblocker/strongman stop doctors. What does that have to do with the raid?

Because the reward for the raid is one night of being strongwilled and strongarm, so i assumed that scum didnt have an innate strongman.

[WhemeStar]

Could do, but first this raid needs to succeed with 0 scum in it, so i cant be roleblocked and scum cant strongman.
Was originally planning on Healing Romance.

For that matter: if any of Elsa Jay, STD, or ArcAngel9 (and to some extent, WhemeStar) are on today's raid:

I'd consider that a scumclaim from them.

Dead serious.

Tempting

[mastina]

That seems to be in direct contradiction to the wiki.

Speaking from experience, I know:
GIF does not use the wiki.

Or rather, GIF uses what he thinks a role/modifier is, but doesn't stay entirely up to date on the exact mechanics of the role/modifier, and thus, uses what he thinks is the interaction rather than what the interaction per the wiki may be. (For instance, having a Hider that was, by the wiki, a Weak Hider whose hide was more like a commute. He was unaware of the wiki version until it was pointed out to him.)

[Save The Dragons]

Could do, but first this raid needs to succeed with 0 scum in it, so i cant be roleblocked and scum cant strongman.
Was originally planning on Healing Romance.

For that matter: if any of Elsa Jay, STD, or ArcAngel9 (and to some extent, WhemeStar) are on today's raid:

I'd consider that a scumclaim from them.

Dead serious.

VOTE: join raid

[mastina]

Elsa shouldn't be in the raid. :/

+1 to this.

I'm voting Elsa Jay tomorrow and literally never unvoting there ever for the rest of the game if Elsa remains on this raid and refuses to leave it.

[Mystic Bears]

scum Roleblocker/strongman stop doctors. What does that have to do with the raid?

Because the reward for the raid is one night of being strongwilled and strongarm, so i assumed that scum didnt have an innate strongman.

there's two doctors/really dumb scum team. i don't think any logic applies to this game whatsoever. I feel like it's probably the latter but Tomorrow is probably a doctor anyways. I'm just weirded out like why didn't they just use a fake claim instead of claim doc. Though there's like some kind of thing that says that the two factions can't have the same role. Ok nevermind, Tomorrow is just scum fake claiming. Order of action is just Kill Cakez today. Sorry you my bestie but you scum. Then kill Tomorrow tomorrow. Well, actually I don't like that plan anymore.

[Mystic Bears]

Nevermind pretend i said nothing.

[Mandelbrot]

I would actually be happier if EJ left the raid.

@Elsa

if you insist on staying in this raid, make the most of your night action because I'm gunning for you toMorrow unless there's another hard guilty outed.

- House

I'm using what's given to me as someone who phone posts immediately and watches for daystart.

And don't just yell at me either. At the very least I don't like some of the people signing up for these being townie. Frankly anyone getting off now means the next two in line (considering Cake is basically doing nothing) and I don't want Tomorrow in this either.

At the very least I know I'm preventing some scum getting in.

I'd rather TC be on it than you.

Make the most of toNight, for toMorrow, you ride the lightning.

- House

[Mandelbrot]

scum Roleblocker/strongman stop doctors. What does that have to do with the raid?

Because the reward for the raid is one night of being strongwilled and strongarm, so i assumed that scum didnt have an innate strongman.

there's two doctors/really dumb scum team. i don't think any logic applies to this game whatsoever. I feel like it's probably the latter but Tomorrow is probably a doctor anyways. I'm just weirded out like why didn't they just use a fake claim instead of claim doc. Though there's like some kind of thing that says that the two factions can't have the same role. Ok nevermind, Tomorrow is just scum fake claiming. Order of action is just Kill Cakez today. Sorry you my bestie but you scum. Then kill Tomorrow tomorrow. Well, actually I don't like that plan anymore.

Elsa goes tomorrow if he stays in this raid.

- House

[mastina]

you really think elsa jay is scum trying to sneak that in

Unironically? Yes--Elsa Jay is the type of scum player to do precisely that.

[Sakura Hana]

Then kill Tomorrow tomorrow.

That probably sounded more funny than you intended.
But thanks for the laugh anyway.

[Mandelbrot]

Then kill Tomorrow tomorrow.

That probably sounded more funny than you intended.
But thanks for the laugh anyway.

I'm guessing they intended.

- House

[mastina]

my scum pool rn
(qrow and raven, elsa, wheme, head one and head two, Romance, Mirio)
and actually save the dragons has been lackluster so they can go in there too

lmao I swear to god that last line was not provoked by save the dragons' last post

StD probtown
-Qrow

I've the opposite read on that.

You DO know that SirCakez has a habit of bussing, right?

Yes, he's tried a lot to actively change his scum meta--bussing included.

But he still has the tendency to distance from scumbuddies, and his STD interaction is precisely the sort of scum distancing SirCakez tends to fall back into whenever he isn't careful enough.

[Elsa Jay]

Am I seriously gonna be the one player basically bullied out of the raids? Fuck that. Honestly I'll join them all out of spite and town it up so hard you can't get rid of me.