Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Fin

[Cephrir]

VOTE: Ydrasse for having a name that consists of one capital letter followed by six lowercase letters. Now that's scummy.

[Cephrir]

it sounds like there might be a twist, but i plan on treating it as an elim

[Cephrir]

yeah

i'm going to powerwolf this one, you can relax

[Cephrir]

I know no one wants to rehash this but wanting to be elected because of an acquittal doesnt really make sense. If you are acquitted of a crime nothing happens to you that isnt a reward

I might think someone else was caught for the wrong reasons here but idk prism seems to get tilted off the planet over nothing every time I see him (sorry)

[Cephrir]

Agree with dunn about how to approach this overall

Also think it's probably the case that scum dont have a normal nightkill

[Cephrir]

Sure we can pretend that if you want

Why dont you ask me to play battleship in order to find out

[Cephrir]

Awooooooooooooo

[Cephrir]

Uh we are not all VT

I'm a contestant :3

[Cephrir]

Seems legit

[Cephrir]

You don't seem deterred by the tilt earlier, but does anything else stick out to you, Cephir?

You haven't really weighed in on any of the surrounding people.

I dont have a lot of thoughts right now

[Cephrir]

VOTE: dwlee
How do you know of among us mafia? Pretty sure you weren’t around for that.

I'm friends with Shea and he mentioned it the other day in a discord convo so I took a look at it

Ah. Makes enough sense.
VOTE: Pooky
His solve is almost

too

good

Bruh what

[Cephrir]

I find that thought process strange but maybe I just dont get you gamma

[Cephrir]

I think if the throne is good and give king powers then scum team probly came into today with a plan of who to give the throne to and that person(scum) is actively campaigning for it.

if the throne is bad and kills the person who sits in it, there would be no scum campaigning for it.

In either scenario we shouldn't give the throne to someone who is campaigning for it.

My experience with that type of mechanic is that scum usually fail to really and take advantage of it

[Cephrir]

Since we have no PRs in this setup, maybe we should put people up who are terrible at playing VTs and would rather be carried.

Is there a meaningful difference between this suggestion and just saying we should elim limbait

[Cephrir]

Hence why I said I think the sabotage for the first event would be to change the Throne Activation from King Powers to a normal Electric Chair of sorts - it would make sense to me because it would be totally mindfucky.

I think the opposite is more likely

[Cephrir]

I believe due to the fact we must play at least 5 events, scum have increased agency and are able to make meaningful diversionary changes even after the town decision, because otherwise they would not be able to gurantee reaching the 5th event.

Possibly... is there some sort of mandatory effect to force them to sabotage so that it can't end in 4?

[Cephrir]

VOTE: gamma

Unfortunately my effort to find a gif of Gordon Ramsay gesturing at someone's face and saying "I just dont get it" was unsuccessful

[Cephrir]

I was pumped to see a few pages to read, but still didnt find anything I really wanted to bite into. Sadface.

Pls stop pediting me

[Cephrir]

prism is town i think, she doesn't need to put this much energy into justifying herself as scum

PEdit: lol

Is this a meta thing at all or just a thought about this game?

[Cephrir]

Makes sense. I'll allow myself to townread her for now then

[Cephrir]

Ceph

who are you and can we pocket each other?

hello, i'm an lsg player who's been sucked into some sort of mafia vortex and forced to play against my will. i'm very cute and charming and probably shouldn't be trusted although i sure like it when people trust me anyway. hope that helps!

i'm still trying to figure you out!

[Cephrir]

Ceph

who are you and can we pocket each other?

hello, i'm an lsg player who's been sucked into some sort of mafia vortex and forced to play against my will. i'm very cute and charming and probably shouldn't be trusted although i sure like it when people trust me anyway. hope that helps!

i'm still trying to figure you out!

same here! let's do a popcorn back-and-forth question/commentary game!

It seems like your interest in the thread waned when you saw the

GammaVPrism

altercation round 1000. Has any of their own posts helped inform you on their alignment?

i think it would be fair to say i never had a ton of interest in the thread to begin with (i am quite excited about the game, but haven't found much of the thread interesting yet. i expect this will change eventually.), but it's also true that arguments with 7000 layers tend to especially bore me.

i still lean towards gamma being scum here. i think his pooky vote was nonsense, his tilting seemed a little scummy to me, i think several times he has thrown out votes in a weak attempt to distract from himself, and he's just acting strange overall, which makes him a good place for my vote right now as I have 0 other suspects. the fact that he's obviously losing the argument i don't care so much about -- i know that some players are just not as good at 1v1s and being one of those myself i can sympathize. but, i'm not sure i see a sense that he believes in the points he's making, which i do care about.

[Cephrir]

i think the more relevant thing is that gamma was mafia in this situation

[Cephrir]

ah, that makes it way less interesting for me to suggest cakez is scum. darn.

[Cephrir]

it feels like he is trying to look like his town game but it's not actually his towngame

have you even played with me enough to have this kind of opinion

[Cephrir]

FIGHT ME MMA DEATHMATCH

no

[Cephrir]

Gamma, who should I scum read right now?

Cephrir. I know Cakez also just sussed him, but he's clearly trying to bias people against me in an unnatural way.
VOTE: Cephrir
Cakez's last few posts don't feel too bad tbh. As for his question about why I pushed him when I did, I wanted to try to shake down someone who hadn't really been around and he was the best choice when factoring in time since last post and post count.

is there anyone you won't throw a vote at to get attention anywhere but you

[Cephrir]

he's clearly trying to bias people against me in an unnatural way.

(prism voice)
since this is apparently so clear, i'm sure it will be easy for you to provide evidence of me doing this and explain what unnatural means

[Cephrir]

Gamma is still by far my #1 choice but I would not mind flipping all three of Gamma/Cakez/Ceph from what I have seen so far.

oh hush you'll love me once i get enough time and space to increase the charm beams to full power

[Cephrir]

If someone wants to ask me that question in good faith I'll answer it then

oh okay i guess i'll just go fuck myself then. thanks.

[Cephrir]

Charming Ceph is scum Ceph

bitch, all cephs are charming

[Cephrir]

Cephrir meanwhile has taken steps beyond what should ever be considered good-faith attempts to get me eliminated.

literally what the fuck lol

[Cephrir]

Have I ever even played with Town Cephrir

i don't know!

[Cephrir]

shit. you got me.

[Cephrir]

almost as good as the battleship tell.

sad awoo.

[Cephrir]

well, i'm not an angleshooter and i try not to be too mean unless someone really goes out of their way to piss me off, but for the most part no

[Cephrir]

yeah, de-facto trust tells are kinda tanking games lately

leave it all on the field. mafia aren't really bad guys, they just want to provide a credible enough threat to make the victory or defeat feel worth it

[Cephrir]

but dwlee, we're just getting to the fun part!

[Cephrir]

I'm seeing some parallels between ceph here and how he played in radio buzz, which is not giving me Warm and Fuzzy Feelings

that just proves i did a good job of imitating my town self in that game ;3

[Cephrir]

If not, why not?

because you haven't done anything useful

[Cephrir]

If not, why not?

because you haven't done anything useful

Sorry, what do I need to do?

find scum

[Cephrir]

alternatively, you could just vote gamma if you hate contributing that much

[Cephrir]

Now playing..
♫ Caravan Palace - Lone Digger ♫
                        ▶ ❚❚ ─────●─────────────────────────  0:46 / 3:50

omg the timer is incrementing.

[Cephrir]

i only didn't mention it bc i figured everyone knew the song already but it's a real good mood setter

[Cephrir]

i kind of think toog is town who is lazy/apathetic for some reason (although it confuses me) which makes cakez trying to call him scum worse

i've only seen toog a few times but he's been apathetic and town every time. i do think his posts this game are worse than usual.

[Cephrir]

awoo?

[Cephrir]

Nah Toog is worse than usual here like someone else said

if u want to push me u should probably stop agreeing with my posts

[Cephrir]

Gamma's tried like 4 different playstyle shifts, all of them unnatural/one-dimensional and all of them with the goal of getting the vote off of him rather than legitimately sorting. We're far enough along that people have forgotten the phase where he pretended to be scum to WIFOM us into going elsewhere.

+1

[Cephrir]

Nah Toog is worse than usual here like someone else said

if u want to push me u should probably stop agreeing with my posts

FUCK


why are you bussing all your buddies Ceph?

Weak team, I need to carry this one

[Cephrir]

Nah Toog is worse than usual here like someone else said

if u want to push me u should probably stop agreeing with my posts

FUCK


why are you bussing all your buddies Ceph?

He did that in Radio Buzz fwiw

Uhhhhh I explicitly didnt

[Cephrir]

its the AtE stuff like Sadface, I was pumped, etc

Having feelings and ATE are different things

[Cephrir]

Gamma got spunk.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Prism

Terrible

[Cephrir]

No one needs to leave if we just end the day

[Cephrir]

nobody knows if your feelings are real or not
all we know is what you're posting

sure, but i wasn't making an appeal or trying to convince anyone of anything by making them feel some kind of way, i was just posting

[Cephrir]

do you think most players just never post emotion words or something, genuinely confused

[Cephrir]

confused

oh no an emotion

[Cephrir]

that sounds untrue to me and i don't know why it would be scummy if it were

kinda feels like you just want to attack me because you already committed to it / because it's popular for some reason

incidentally, (this one is an ATE, so you can tell) this is my third game with approximately this group of people and i've been a perennial suspect each time so i'm starting to feel like yall just don't understand me

[Cephrir]

Ceph

who are you and can we pocket each other?

hello, i'm an lsg player who's been sucked into some sort of mafia vortex and forced to play against my will. i'm very cute and charming and probably shouldn't be trusted although i sure like it when people trust me anyway. hope that helps!

i'm still trying to figure you out!

Gamma is still by far my #1 choice but I would not mind flipping all three of Gamma/Cakez/Ceph from what I have seen so far.

oh hush you'll love me once i get enough time and space to increase the charm beams to full power

almost as good as the battleship tell.

sad awoo.

i don't see the first two posts as emotional, i'm just having fun

[Cephrir]

eh, i guess only a few of you were in dead silence

[Cephrir]

bruh weren't you like scum every time lol

i was town in dead silence and i am also town in this game

[Cephrir]

ok but u were like obviously town in dead silence

it's easy when you're the mod

[Cephrir]

[Cephrir]

without commenting on whether an apology is required in this situation, if you ever find yourself typing "i'm sorry if you feel xyz" i'd recommend just not posting instead

[Cephrir]

if you want to make an apology, apologize for your actions, not for the other person's feelings, imo.

if you can't do that, you probably aren't sorry and i don't think there's too much value in an insincere apology

[Cephrir]

Hope you townread me like 90% of the time people have mentioned me this game - including your predecessor.

what is the point of saying this in this way?

[Cephrir]

oh, alright

[Cephrir]

gypyx is 90% town, that was easy

[Cephrir]

he's posting

it's ez

[Cephrir]

aw, really? damn

[Cephrir]

fine, REVOKED

[Cephrir]

[Cephrir]

VOTE: ulyana
I feel like she's dispassionate and disconnected from the game in a way that she wasn't in radio buzz as rousseau, but somewhat reminds me of what I remember tracy flick being like in student council

still doing it... whoever the flavor of the page is ig

[Cephrir]

that's was like a bright flame to me, this is like a strong current of a river

are you a fortune teller now too

[Cephrir]

saber feels town

would love it if we could play this game more and relitigate past games less, that type of content is boring and unpersuasive to me + does nothing to help me read you either

[Cephrir]

tbh it sucks that the people I trust most seem to be the ones that want me dead the most, because the only hope I have is they have mercy in their hearts and don't forsake me

idk you don't seem to be a fan of me but i want you dead pretty bad

[Cephrir]

Spoiler:

Hope you townread me like 90% of the time people have mentioned me this game - including your predecessor.

what is the point of saying this in this way?

oh, alright

gypyx is 90% town, that was easy

he's posting

it's ez

aw, really? damn

fine, REVOKED

VOTE: ulyana
I feel like she's dispassionate and disconnected from the game in a way that she wasn't in radio buzz as rousseau, but somewhat reminds me of what I remember tracy flick being like in student council

still doing it... whoever the flavor of the page is ig

This is not good posting from Cephrir in my opinion

do you want to elaborate? it's not bothering me as much as it would if i were scum, but it's getting a little boring having literally every slot in the game taking swings at me for no expressed reason

[Cephrir]

tbh it sucks that the people I trust most seem to be the ones that want me dead the most, because the only hope I have is they have mercy in their hearts and don't forsake me

idk you don't seem to be a fan of me but i want you dead pretty bad

you don't feel like you mean it
taly/skitts/ydra do

bruh.

like, 10 pages ago i was going above and beyond what could possibly be good faith in my massive effort to get you killed, according to you. a ridiculous comment that you've still never explained.

now i apparently don't care. make up your fucking mind

i'll give you a hint: it's neither. i'm rarely so convinced of a scumread this early

[Cephrir]

Spoiler:

Hope you townread me like 90% of the time people have mentioned me this game - including your predecessor.

what is the point of saying this in this way?

oh, alright

gypyx is 90% town, that was easy

he's posting

it's ez

aw, really? damn

fine, REVOKED

VOTE: ulyana
I feel like she's dispassionate and disconnected from the game in a way that she wasn't in radio buzz as rousseau, but somewhat reminds me of what I remember tracy flick being like in student council

still doing it... whoever the flavor of the page is ig

This is not good posting from Cephrir in my opinion

do you want to elaborate? it's not bothering me as much as it would if i were scum, but it's getting a little boring having literally every slot in the game taking swings at me for no expressed reason

Because this feels like bloodstained where you didn't have much of interest to say

And now you complaining feels like bloodstained too

Vs what I remember of your town games in team mafia + tarot mafia where I didn't get the same vibe

eh? none of the posts you quoted have anything to do with that?

[Cephrir]

I believe Gamma is at L2.

Let's please keep in mind of the, state L1 and intention to hammer before EoD occurs, if it does.

would also be nice to leash gamma emerald to eliminate someone who is not me if the throne is a kingmaker type deal on account of this entire push feeling like it might be preemptively designed to explain him doing so

just leash him to me, at this point.

[Cephrir]

eh? none of the posts you quoted have anything to do with that?

Maybe I worded it wrong? It feels similar to bloodstained and not similar to your town play.

well, not much i can do with that, but ok

[Cephrir]

VOTE: ulyana
I feel like she's dispassionate and disconnected from the game in a way that she wasn't in radio buzz as rousseau, but somewhat reminds me of what I remember tracy flick being like in student council

still doing it... whoever the flavor of the page is ig

What's this?

was pointing out that he continues to spin to scumread literally anyone possible because he's so desperate to get votes on anyone but himself

[Cephrir]

no, pretty sure your point has been that I've been goign where the wind blows with my expressed suspicions; that vote's existence is in blatant defiance of that idea.

sure bud

[Cephrir]

just end this day and kill me next if it flips town. my only hope of survival at this point is that gamma is clearly not my partner, everyone is set on it already anyway.

[Cephrir]

my only hope of survival at this point is that gamma is clearly not my partner,

I haven't been paying a lot of attention but do you have anything to point to that isn't while gamma has been really close to an elimination anyway?

i mean if you think he writes that "bad faith" post about his partner i can't help you.

[Cephrir]

my only hope of survival at this point is that gamma is clearly not my partner,

I haven't been paying a lot of attention but do you have anything to point to that isn't while gamma has been really close to an elimination anyway?

i mean if you think he writes that "bad faith" post about his partner i can't help you.

Which post?

672

[Cephrir]

my only hope of survival at this point is that gamma is clearly not my partner,

I haven't been paying a lot of attention but do you have anything to point to that isn't while gamma has been really close to an elimination anyway?

i mean if you think he writes that "bad faith" post about his partner i can't help you.

Which post?

672

I think it's weird that they said that but I don't see it as a slam dunk unaligned case. I think it is weird that you are indicating that it is.

great. just kill me regardless then.

[Cephrir]

Adding to the pool of AtE really doesn't help me

:shrug:

i don't know what you want from me. no one seems to want me to be alive. it is demoralizing. half of them have only played one game with me and i was scum in that game and they've very wisely observed that i seem similar in this game. i feel the only way i can overcome their perceptions is by flipping town at which point they will realize that i'm actually just good at imitating myself. so it seems like this game is a wash / a price i have to play in order to be able to actually play mafia with this group.

[Cephrir]

there's a few possible town motivations, including genuinely being lost and looking for reactions

gamma has not produced these motivations. assigning them to him seems awfully generous.

or even expressly changed his mind about the people he was going after earlier.

[Cephrir]

Adding to the pool of AtE really doesn't help me

:shrug:

i don't know what you want from me. no one seems to want me to be alive. it is demoralizing. half of them have only played one game with me and i was scum in that game and they've very wisely observed that i seem similar in this game. i feel the only way i can overcome their perceptions is by flipping town at which point they will realize that i'm actually just good at imitating myself. so it seems like this game is a wash / a price i have to play in order to be able to actually play mafia with this group.

Well, is there anything you think u should be townread for here?
Also this is like weirdlu nihilistic (not sure actually if that's the right word. But like you're willing to die to prove that you're town and make some grand broader point. Which as i write this out i realize is actually p different from radio buzz and might be +town tbh)

i'm not sure if i've done anything i couldn't fake yet. i might argue that figuring that out is y'all's job.

it's unfortunate that accepting death is a towntell, but it probably is

[Cephrir]

i don't really mind the galron votes.

[Cephrir]

i think the more relevant thing is that gamma was mafia in this situation

This post was the main thing that made me read Cephrir’s push on me as overdone
There was valid points in the thing infinity brought up but the only takeaway Cephrir cared about was the one that made me look worse.
There’s probably other posts I can point to that weakly support this feeling but idc to hunt them down when I know the kicker is right here.

uhhh wait hold on a second i completely missed this post

i was just trying to explain what infinity was saying because ulyana didn't understand it... what an absolutely bonkers take it's like you didn't even read the conversation

[Cephrir]

prism mentioning her read rate on gamma + gamma trying to claim his read on pooky was partly a meme + i realized the arguments i was using to defend gamma were similar to the ones i was using when i was his scumbuddy

i realized the arguments i was using to defend gamma were similar to the ones i was using when i was his scumbuddy

? why would this be a consideration for town!you?

seems kind of obvious?

seems kind of obvious?

? if town!infinity, why would she worry that arguments she is making were similar to arguments she made when she was mafia?

like if town she knows she is making the argument without knowledge of gamma's alignment in this case, right, so she'd now have realized that the argument she was making that she presumably believes in was similar to one she made that she did not believe in on account of being mafia so she stopped?

this does not make a lot of sense to me

i think the more relevant thing is that gamma was mafia in this situation

like, shiki's question had to do with inifinity's thought process, she didn't seem particularly interested in what it meant for me; you, however, instantly latched onto the underlying implication that because infinity was seeing stuff from my scum meta I had to be scum
that's not honest engagement imo

you're wrong.

i was not calling you scum with that post.

infinity was defending you for reasons that she also used when she was your scumbuddy.

she was also using those reasons in this game.

hence, she had realized that it was likely NAI.

ulyana did not understand this.

[Cephrir]

i'll concede that my intentions were unclear there, as much as gamma is not making me want to reconsider at all.

it comes nowhere close to justifying 672 even so, so i don't think i super care

[Cephrir]

does anyone think Gypyx is being coached

currently no, and there are only a couple people on the playerlist who i think would try

[Cephrir]

is there any1 other than peta who would coach

you

[Cephrir]

most of those pages were boring

pooky town maybe

[Cephrir]

Galron [6]: skitter30, Dwlee99, Ydrasse, Infinity 324, petapan, SirCakez
Gamma Emerald [5]: Cephrir, PookyTheMagicalBear, Saber, ulyana, Dunnstral
Dunnstral [2]: Gamma Emerald, Toogeloo
ulyana [1]: Galron

@ceph/skitter

recognize any similarities from Radio Buzz? :<

i was thinking it

[Cephrir]

What does that mean?

dueling scum wagons

[Cephrir]

(that are also not voting each other)

[Cephrir]

we should put somebody in the chair b4 70 pages cuz long d1s r painful to reread