Mini 2240: SCP Upick (SCP 682 Ending)

[SCP 999]

HUGSSS !!!

[SCP 999]

HEAL: Dunnstral
HEAL: Lady lambdadelta
HEAL: StrangeMatter
HEAL: SirCakez
HEAL: Ampharos
HEAL: Infinity Zero
HEAL: Cephrir
HEAL: Roden
HEAL: Zyla
HEAL: Galron
friends!!

[SCP 999]

scp 999 tickles everyone who comes near!! no bad visits !

[SCP 999]

no they're my friends right now!! friendly friends :3

[SCP 999]

no they're my friends right now!! friendly friends :3

Picture that. That's a lot of friends.

Friends!!!!

[SCP 999]

VOTE: scp 999

blatant pocketing

-Infinity

void is simply; nothing
VOTE: SCP 999

-Gamma

no friend
HURT: Infinity zero

[SCP 999]

Gif shot down all my picks

:C I got one of mine friend !

also I have a 2 dclass costing ability- not sure what it is for friends but I will use it if I have to :3 it is very useful


i'm also immune to all night actions so i cannot die ever uwu :3 there is a way around it but i will never tell >:)

[SCP 999]

Hello everyone, I see that there are people here I haven't played with, but also a few people who aren't strangers to me!
Hopefully this can be a fun game, the setup looks interesting already!

hello zyla you're not a stranger to me friend! We have played before

[SCP 999]

Huh! I'm not aware of that, must've not been on this account?

do you like tacos???? yummy!!

[SCP 999]

ampharos hugs?!!!
no sad or hurt

[SCP 999]

Huh! I'm not aware of that, must've not been on this account?

do you like tacos???? yummy!!

I do! They may not be burritos or quesadillas, but they are certainly not a bad food ^^

i hope you understood other than that though

[SCP 999]

ampharos hugs?!!!
no sad or hurt

afraid i'm not much of a hugger, though the sentiment is certainly appreciated

or tickles!!!!!! tickles make people laugh :3

[SCP 999]

Gif shot down all my picks

:C I got one of mine friend !

also I have a 2 dclass costing ability- not sure what it is for friends but I will use it if I have to :3 it is very useful


i'm also immune to all night actions so i cannot die ever uwu :3 there is a way around it but i will never tell >:)

Don't like this post.

how come friend???

[SCP 999]

I doin't want my friends to be alarmed when the dclasses go missing friend!

[SCP 999]

it says we lose if we lose all the dclass so i want to be open with my friends :c

[SCP 999]

and i heard from a friend we need t o claim asetic if we are one! I realized i shouldnt have claimed the part that blocks everyone :c im sorry friends i am a little slime intoxicated and wasn't thinking straight :c

[SCP 999]

HURT: galron

no friend anymore :c

[SCP 999]

HEAL: dunnstral!!! extra best friend yay!!

[SCP 999]

Yayyyyyyyyyyyy i like roden extra much! HEAL: roden they feel like the fuzzy self i saw one before ! and his words make me all fuzzy!

[SCP 999]

it says we lose if we lose all the dclass so i want to be open with my friends :c

Mechs scary!!! And friends the possibility of something doesn't mean that something is the case, im a researcher :3

[SCP 999]

And yes - in role.madness scum are very scared to claim stuff :3 good point friend!

[SCP 999]

Huh, that RVS ended very quickly for a lot of people or felt like it.

VOTE: strange matter

This is a scum tell

Hmmm... i like this friend!

[SCP 999]

Huh, that RVS ended very quickly for a lot of people or felt like it.

VOTE: strange matter

This is a scum tell

I want to hear what this tell is by the way.

Vote: Strange Matter

VOTE: strange matter

I wanna follow my friends!!

[SCP 999]

nooo bad

[SCP 999]

Im so sorry i was about to unvote when i saw it was e-1 but deadbeat hammered.
Should policy deadbeat for the hammer friends

[SCP 999]

UNVOTE:
Just in case

[SCP 999]

Good shot friend. Was useless to our goal. Scp 999 is ANGRY at them.
I used 2 d class for my second ability so theres 2 more accounted for.

[SCP 999]

Wtf happened yesterday? I woke up to the thread being locked and a Cop claim getting flash wagon'd for no apparent reason. I kept rereading what happened but all anyone kept saying was "yeah this is probably scum" over and over again.

I believe the Vig claim since I'm sure scum were salivating over Deadbeat's hammer and would never NK a policy elim. Though this means scum either no-killed or got blocked; it's possible they tried to shoot 999 to try to call their bluff. Either that or we have a protective role making god tier plays with zero information.

You're locktown.

[SCP 999]

I wont explain now but something you said makes you locktown to me

[SCP 999]

i disagree on zyla friend and i found them as town before in a game where they were limbait :c

[SCP 999]

hey friends - I want to just let people know lets not get into the trap of only attacking people who talk a lot because its so easy to do that ! friends friends!

[SCP 999]

The night was full of noisy events and researches.

10

D-Class subjects were perished by the end of the night.

2

security guards were perished by the end of the night.

Deadbeat was eliminated Night 1.

They were aligned with

SCP foundation Researchers

.

Spoiler: Role PM

Deadbeat

Name:

Eulogy Shrub

Code:

SCP-324

Class:

Safe

Alignment:

SCP foundation Researcher

Effect when breached:

Infiltrators will most likely steal the plant for the night and use it for themselves. Fortunately they'll have to put it back by next night because otherwise security guards will catch them eventually.

Research:

• Plant Upkeep [Passive, Cost: 2 D-Class]:
  Plant needs nutrients. 2 D-Classes per day should be enough.
  
• The fruit [Cost: 2 D-Class]:
  During the night, you can choose to feed the body of dead player to the plant. You will gain their memory, learning their night actions and results. 2 more D-Class will be offered to hasten the fruit-making progress.

Win Condition:

Rout out all the infiltrators.

It is now Day 2.
8 D-Class subjects were replenished.

The deadline is in (expired on 2021-10-20 14:44:08).

Remaining D-Class: 48
Remaining Security Guards: 18

ALL FRIENDS- hardclaim if you used d class or guards-> current count:

10 were used last night

I shot Deadbeat and used 2 Guards and 5 D-Class. It was a one-shot vig. That was not a mafia kill. Mafia failed to kill somehow.

5 D from LDD + 2 guards

2 D from me(unclaimed ability)

that leaves 3 unclaimed - please claim them friends!

[SCP 999]

wait i just realized my 2nd ability doesnt actually do anything useful for the game state and i wasted 2 dclass like a silly goo ball - i thought it had to do with something related to the gamestate and would help xD

[SCP 999]

GIF trolled me ((

[SCP 999]

BUT this means that mafia almost surely have a strongman ability (likely once a breach happens, which is hinted at from strange's role PM, because they had a kill blocked last night)

i'll fullclaim later tho :3

[SCP 999]

[*]

Plant Upkeep [Passive, Cost: 2 D-Class]:

Plant needs nutrients. 2 D-Classes per day should be enough.

I wanted to potentially get someone to slip my friend, but yes, I knew the math included that.

[SCP 999]

you tell me friend! I wanted to at least keep the door open for it

[SCP 999]

yeah whats up cakez

[SCP 999]

Basic game mechanics

• There are 10
  SCP foundation Researchers
  and 3
  Infiltrators
  .
  
• Game starts with 50 Class D and 20 security guards.
  
• Each day replenishes 8 D-class.
  Security guards will not be replenished.
  
  
• Infiltrators win if either class Ds or security guards deplete.
  
• Infiltrators get a factional action called containment breach attempt. This action is separate from the nightkill.
  • Containment breach can be done once per night. The target's containment will be breached at the end of the next night.
• The abilities are not multitasking unless specifically mentioned.
  
• SCP foundation Researchers Win condition is: Rout out all the infiltrators.
  
• Infiltrators Win condition is: Achieve parity with alive SCP foundation Researchers or deplete either amount of Class Ds or Security guards.

HOLD UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

DONT USE ANYMORE ABILITIES THAT REQUIRE GUARDS OK?

[SCP 999]

you tell me friend!

I don't think they would do that

i think that some would!! also what are your thoughts on who are the baddies my friend?

[SCP 999]

friends lets be careful we dont repeat day 1 even if infinity is mafia we need to at least talk it over !

[SCP 999]

lmao what the fuck happened while i was gone

anyways, mech stuff:
- my role does not use d-class or guards
- i visited dunnstral last night and was told that he is town; this result is unrelated to my role

will post actual game related takes later

kinda sus

haha oops my friends i shed my human form xD well then!

[SCP 999]

everytime

[SCP 999]

since the beginning friend!

[SCP 999]

VOTE: Galron

Let's put some pressure on this :3

[SCP 999]

why me fry me as they say my friend :3

[SCP 999]

I think its a little off character for infinity to say "cop claim scummy" and not unvote just in case js :3

[SCP 999]

im asking you to find scum right now now complain about my trolling, yet semi valid criticisms rn :3

[SCP 999]

hey dwlee - there is 100% reasonable doubt for *every* person on the wagon to not want to have that eliminated there as a townie - so trying to pull out wagon analysis is shallow and weak + why is ampharos town outside of "being off wagon"?

that was one of those wagons that had the potential to be 100% pure.

but anyways - this is rolemadness and im pretty much fullclaimed with proven used dclasses for my ability you aren't getting anywhere.



why am I scum dwlee, though?

curious what you want to try to make up

[SCP 999]

you gave *intent* AFTER the claim - you baited a hammer, or tried to cover up yourself hammering.

start posting more or die. :3

[SCP 999]

I wanted a flavor claim, was not actually going to hammer that. Be back later with takes

where are the takes, dwlee?

[SCP 999]

and yes we are going to 100% disregard the d1 wagon because a clown hammered it when every townie on the wagon, including myself, had 100% intent to only wagon for pressure and nothing more, especially the early votes. so you are not going to try to clear yourself or anyone else by saying they are off wagon (:

[SCP 999]

am very curious as to why dwlee does not want to spend any energy here right now and just lazily tries to be like "me wagon anaylsis haha scp 999 vote someone off wagon so scum!!" like what kind of townie comes up with that after missing d1 ????????

[SCP 999]

oK so im like excited and i want to just spill and its kinda embarassing but the 2nd part of my role spends 2 dclass just to DISABLE? my ascetic bulletproof status for the night LOL (i have absolutely no clue why I would do such a thing but this shit was worded so weird i thought that it was like some game related flavor stuff to do with the game but at least like i did it n1 so now i proved i *have* a 2 dclass costing ability)

[SCP 999]

(that was the "special condition I was talking about - i didnt know it was purely JUST to disable my ability i thought it did something more to "protect" the boardstate or prevent a breach or something once yall see this role pm postgame yall will understand)

[SCP 999]

VOTE: SCP 999

say something.

[SCP 999]

angry I didn't answer your question? because I answer things at my own pace. you dont get to control me.

[SCP 999]

I'm voting you because the Koba I know should be finding the scum and I have done zero critical thinking here

I already explained my intent but okay

yeah you're def scum LMFAOOO

thunderdoming you rn.



i play town in role madness in a way that is very difficult for scum to play - which is to play around my own role in a way that shows I am not afraid to flaunt it.

[SCP 999]

ANd I have meta to back it up you are *screwed*

[SCP 999]

I wanted a flavor claim, was not actually going to hammer that. Be back later with takes

where are the takes, dwlee?

and dwlee - where are the *takes*?

waiting for them - you've only given 1 and you are very vague about it :3

come on!!! come play!

[SCP 999]

VOTE: Dwlee

[SCP 999]

dwlee is 100% the type to refuse to get their hands dirty d1 btw.

the intent was all about looking good.

dwlee had no concern about whether or not strange gets limmed - they did not show they even had remotely a read in that direction and were just toying with them.

[SCP 999]

meanwhile, look at my reaction to the hammer- where I actually was like "WHAT THE FUCK" kind of reaction - where I even try to hope there isnt a hammer and unvote to prevent a consecutive vote that might help it.

[SCP 999]

[SCP 999]

It is in good faith and you know why I'm calling you on dodging the thread.

[SCP 999]

UNVOTE: SCP 999

Alright, let's give this game a little more effort. Here are my thoughts right now:

Taking back the suspicion on Zyla, they have little content but I don't dislike their last two posts, and the day 1 wasn't on them.

I'm thinking town on Ampharos, this is mostly just feels based off of playing a few games with her. Night 1 action targeting me is interesting but doesn't need an explanation today, and is more likely to be town than not. This is not a good place to be pushing today, regardless, based on how day 1 went down and them not being involved in that.

I think Dwlee is fine. Can think about this more when they have more but I'm not interested in going there today either.

Galron gets a very light town read for their posting on day 1. I'm not sure why a call was made for pressure here since they were posting on day 1.

I think LLD is more likely to be town telling the truth than mafia making a gambit. We can figure it out later with claims.

I like Roden's posts on day 2.

Sircakez vote reasoning was one of the most plausible/justifiable from what I've seen. Other than that, they haven't done anything at all, and seemed pretty unconcerned coming into today.

I don't like the places SCP 999 has decided to focus today. If I have my way today, we won't be eliminating any of those players they've pushed today. I don't like that they then claimed to not be ascetic last night, and felt the need to "prove" that they had an ability that cost 2 D-class personnel. Their "reaction test" earlier didn't make sense. Seems to be going out of their way to disrupt the day phase.

I don't like the way Cephrir acts like Strangematter was really scummy. They really weren't... they posted, like, 3 times, and got jumped on for very flimsy reasons, followed by pushing instead of pulling back after an early cop claim. Day 2 play is mostly focused on defending themself, though they do have some reads as well. I don't like their spot on the Strangematter Wagon.

Infinity Zero started day 1 with a lot of mech talk around SCP 999's role, then transitioned into voting for Strangematter in 96 for very dubious reasons (how does it feel like that and why is Strangmatter a scumread at this point in time?) They also push instead of pulling back with the early cop claim. On day 2, Gamma getting mad about something insubstantial is definitely his scum meta. 149 kind of misses the point of what I am asking (which is if they have anyone as a scumread, not their townreads.) They do a woe is me thing for a bit which does not look town to me. In 183 they ask a question that feels more like a distraction than solving (and my answer to that is that I don't care for the premise, they may or may not have done so, but that isn't how I'm sorting people.) Their vote on Ampharos is lame.


[LLD]
[Ampharos]
[Zyla, Roden, Dwlee, Galron]
[SirCakez, Scp 999, Cephrir]]
[Infinity Zero]

Middle tier is above null in my eyes but I don't want to write them off for later as there is not much to look at there.
I am looking in the bottom 2 tiers for mafia. I don't think there are less than 2 mafia within that pool of 4, at the very least.

"I dont like the places scp 999 has decided to - " gonna stop you right there chief- you're going the level 1 route of assuming disagree = mafia. Why is my thoughts process behind my actions not town? You're working backwards - you dont *want* me to be town because you dont like my actions. Lets not get into those traps here - if thats how you reached conclusion on me and then preflipped me into dwlee townread(which is terrible if you actually bothered to read that iso, youre literally just preflipping me into them) - I have no reason to trust your reads are even remotely holistic.

[SCP 999]

Yes im discrediting you while calling you town. I want you to try harder and look at the game as a whole rather than assifn people alignments based on your likes and dislikes

[SCP 999]

Something irks me about lld claim and i want them to holder tonight to prove via lack of resource drain its a town ability- also like we don't need game acceleration atp

Im just paranoid but i do want lld proven real without losing a mislim

On top of that im *townreading * inf slot after the response to the cop claim thing. I generally believe a unique explanation like that AND my head is screaming to scumread them and uh inf knows my record on reading her recently xD

[SCP 999]

i think scum want to railroad the conversation into forcing lims on d1 wagon (dwlee) to avoid deeper analysis that will actually solve ppl

[SCP 999]

If anyone disagrees please dialogue me instead of just push me for it. I do get really frustrated when i get called scum for takes that yknow are very tinfoily or shielding consensus scumreads etc.
Sometimes i am right -(mainly on shielding consensus scumreads LOL my tinfoils are trash, which is why i really want lld to mech prove herself)
And like - yeah. Hope that makes sense :3 i have a reads list i want to out- but like yeha im struggling this game.bc most.players here i have low confidence meta on

[SCP 999]

Dwlee never said anything like that

Ok dunn- quick quiz - why did dwlee quote the eod votecount in the post they voted me

[SCP 999]

You need to read for implications and look between the lines too

[SCP 999]

LLD can't shoot again

Now see that's too convenient then :/

[SCP 999]

I'm voting you because the Koba I know should be finding the scum and I have done zero critical thinking here

I already explained my intent but okay

You ignore that I also quoted where you alt slip

You know your argument last night was BS because I wasn't in thread for out of game reasons and now you're trying to argue I am doing something else even though that is explicitly not why I'm voting you

Whats the point of the alt slip in my argument that youre pushing on wagon specifically and that your reasoning was clearly bc amp was off wagon LOL

[SCP 999]

Hm
Ok

dunns btw you need to.lay your thought process out - i do want to trust your reads to some degree as a near clear townie, but i am viewing things differently and, yes i have the capacity to be big wrong and need a little nudging.
I think opposing opinions are useful to reach a solved state.

That being said dwlees confused reaction plus the fact ik theyre busy irl is like plausibility enough of them being town so UNVOTE:

[SCP 999]

my whole argument on dwlee scum hinged on them being not as into the game - plausibility of town being provided by my knowledge of stuff - and also me thinking they wanted to push on wagon strictly with an agenda countered by their genuine looking confusion at my accusation.
That isn't to say im townreading them - but im willing to shelve for now.

And let's remember that d1 was 24 hours and the wagon gives us nearly no info(imo based on what i know were my intentions being on it) - so expecting people to have d2 accuracy level reads is unreasonable and we should treat this like d1 low info state

[SCP 999]

Something irks me about lld claim and i want them to holder tonight to prove via lack of resource drain its a town ability- also like we don't need game acceleration atp

Im just paranoid but i do want lld proven real without losing a mislim

On top of that im *townreading * inf slot after the response to the cop claim thing. I generally believe a unique explanation like that AND my head is screaming to scumread them and uh inf knows my record on reading her recently xD

Uh.

This discourse about my role is really fascinating when it is literally provable.

Ask every player in the game if they have used any number of Guards last night in their actions. Only 2 were lost and I have claimed the two.

So unless someone else claims that, it was my ability that drained it.

So the only way the ability could be fake at that point is if the scumteam shot deadbeat and I pretended after using a different big ability which... Makes no sense as a move not only does it remove a miselim from scum's pool it also puts me in a firing line I wasn't in before.

So final option is I am scum and have this ability at which point why wouldn't I just shoot someone ultra townie and not claim the ability?

Nothing about how I handled this ability benefits scum and my ability is literally proven by dead Deadbeat and 2 guards missing that no one else can claim because I used them.

I just realized that tonight when we see the factional it will prove things anyways so excuse my idiocy

I'm not sure how the factional tonight will prove things? Or rather, how are you thinking it will?

my tinfoil theory was you factionaled to fake a doc save(because i was not commuted tonight i was not targeted so i know that much) - and that the factional uses those resources as a way to advance wincon regardless of any saves.
Basically was not thinking 100% straight but still my consensus is "wait and see" regarding your role

[SCP 999]

VOTE: cephir
The bar has been raised above this slot for me

[SCP 999]

Sircakez as well - i thought roden non-tmi slipped based on saying i was a potential save but obviously scum wouldn't know I was non commuting because I know they didn't tartet me with a kill - (which was why I said they were locktown)

[SCP 999]

wait i just realized zyla is in this game and has flown under the radar- better vote imo VOTE: zyla

[SCP 999]

disagree but that can be a postgame discussion because I have strong opinions about it and it would derail the game. Basically i think the "scummy" part is debatable in terms of player accuracy level in finding actual scumtells

[SCP 999]

hey cakez - why am i scummy?

why was my vote scummy?

[SCP 999]

i dont believe in slips in forum mafia unless its mech related - so dont catch me ignoring my dayplay reasons to townread infinity. if infinity were to flip scum - great, 1 less scum.

if not - i get to be basically clear and unkillable


win win.

[SCP 999]

i'm actually a scum designated mislim because im unkillable and people know im strong as fuck in late game

[SCP 999]

i think cakez entrance into this day was incredibly scummy and trying to just push agendas rather than solve


he was 100% reactionary to what has happened rather than genuinely analyzing anything. thus why the vague 1 liners about "hurr this scummy" kind of stuff.


also if im scum - why do I make up reasons to discard my reasoning to vote dwlee when they are very clearly playing not to town meta and very sloppily? nah lol im just not scum and the reasoning is bunk as fuck.

(connecting cakez saying dwlee is scum designated mislim to their supposed scumread on me)

[SCP 999]

cakez state your zyla read. i'm waiting for some non reactionary content.

[SCP 999]

how am i playing to scum meta? what is your idea of what my scum meta is like cakez? and how does that differ from my town meta?


you're being interrogated right now.

stay sharp and answer my questions.

[SCP 999]

cakez I really don't care that you don't care because your analysis is shallower than a kiddie pool right now.

[SCP 999]

i think cakez entrance into this day was incredibly scummy and trying to just push agendas rather than solve


he was 100% reactionary to what has happened rather than genuinely analyzing anything. thus why the vague 1 liners about "hurr this scummy" kind of stuff.


also if im scum - why do I make up reasons to discard my reasoning to vote dwlee when they are very clearly playing not to town meta and very sloppily? nah lol im just not scum and the reasoning is bunk as fuck.

(connecting cakez saying dwlee is scum designated mislim to their supposed scumread on me)

If you are town then the attacking everyone who suspects you thing isn't helping me

i recently adopted an "omgus" playstyle because ive been snowed by too many scum who push on me :shrug: like i implied earlier - we have a playstyle clash and I acknowledge that myself - hoping you can from your end and try to put in extra effort into reading me more holistically.

[SCP 999]

you playstyle also infuriates me dunns, and i would be hard pushing you here had you not had a green check because you just say things without showing your thought process.

try to see both sides.a

[SCP 999]

to put my earlier thought into understandable words

i feel like scp's response to pressure seems to consistently be to ask a ton of basically bad faith questions in an attempt to bury the person suspecting them because it takes longer to answer a question than to ask one so when they can't answer them all scp has "won the argument"

how are they bad faith?

its literally asking people to ellaborate their thought process - this is how you find town.

maybe you should listen to people who have consistent wins as town like i have been - they tell me the same thinga -look for the thought process, don't look at just the actions.

[SCP 999]

man i already see the people that are going to be taken to endgame and we are probably so screwed because none of them are going to listen to flipped town.

[SCP 999]

it's like getting all up in their face in real life

why'd you do that huh?
what's with this huh?
[without waiting long enough for them to answer] why arent you saying anything huh huh huh?

i say the last thing when people decide to start other conversation topics without answering - point out where i do so without the other person posting.

you've been playing mafia since 2006, had perhaps a higher expectation of you to understand basic mafia concepts.

[SCP 999]

i'm playing to win a game right now - yes im much nicer outside of the game though.

[SCP 999]

But seriously - please stop complaining about me pushing for people to do basic things like explain their thought flow.

[SCP 999]

its proscum(fun fact that doesnt mean i think youre scum necessarily because i did actually appreciate your thought flow explaination of EoD1 and it was enough for me to look the other way without looking deeper into it, as nothing really stuck out as inconsistent or jarring)

[SCP 999]

id like for once in my life to be townread when i roll a BP role tbh.

[SCP 999]

ah, i see, questioning you is proscum. i didn't realize. my b.

nice manipulative response but sure.

[SCP 999]

that being said - anyone who thinks im scum - ask me literally anything about my thought processes thus far this game. i can freely flow and talk about them because im town and its extremely hard for me to fake that as scum unless i am actively taking notes(and even then)


anyways literally no one can explain their read on zyla that disagree with the scumreads on her.

[SCP 999]

that being said - anyone who thinks im scum - ask me literally anything about my thought processes thus far this game. i can freely flow and talk about them because im town and its extremely hard for me to fake that as scum unless i am actively taking notes(and even then)


anyways literally no one can explain their read on zyla that disagree with the scumreads on her.

for cephir : that latter sentence is not me shutting down discussion its an invitation to explain, since we misrepping around here now.

[SCP 999]

Cakez feels town here :3

do you think cakez is town because he is doing agreeable things that you are seeing or is there something deeper here?

as in we preflipping people or nah?

[SCP 999]

and again - i think you're pretty towny for the depth of thought you've shown so far cephir - i will say the same as i said to dunns, please look at me more holistically rather than try to pick and choose some "bad lines" from me, because that is something everyone who ends up mislimming me as town does - pick and choose a few bad looking things and then complain i was scummy after i flip town instead of acknowleding that the proof was there all along while i try to explain it to them the whole time.


if at the end of the dayphase you still feel like im scum alongside dunn - might as well get rid of me now since i wont be dying ever due to my ability to tickle my tresspassers.

[SCP 999]

Koba I don't like how preoccupied you are with zyla. It's something I've seen scum do to make it seem like they're doing things when they are making it easy to just generate content on one person

dwlee you literally were town when you tunneled zyla

also everyone else seems to be preoccupied with infinity/me

are they all scum trying to generate content on 1/2 people?

[SCP 999]

and its just straight up dishonest to say ive been focusing on 1 person.


whatever .

yeah lets do the noob shit play of targeting people who are loud thats never fucking backfired before in any game right guys

[SCP 999]

i say a lot of words and am emotional that makes me scum right guys

[SCP 999]

thats always true about koba - koba is always scum when they're mad and say a lot of words and put pressure on people - literally 100% read rate guys

[SCP 999]

i should be the easiest read here for anyone who bothers to set aside their pride for 2 seconds and not

project themselves

on me

[SCP 999]

koba's never acted this way as town when pressured must be scum tho right

never ever ever

this is 100% out of koba's townrange guys


i am very smart

[SCP 999]

ok and?

you're acting like it's a weird stretch to think that you're accusing me of being scum pushing dwlee. and i was one of two slots pushing dwlee. i don't get how this can be considered a slip at all. same thing @dunn

i also feel like gamma's vote on dwlee was pretty clearly not trying to elim them right away but whatever

-infinity

being aware of the gamestate is scummy infinity dont bother

[SCP 999]

youre not allowed to be aware you have to be ignorant of everything and simultaneously know everything going on.

[SCP 999]

fine.

[SCP 999]

that being said - anyone who thinks im scum - ask me literally anything about my thought processes thus far this game. i can freely flow and talk about them because im town and its extremely hard for me to fake that as scum unless i am actively taking notes(and even then)


anyways literally no one can explain their read on zyla that disagree with the scumreads on her.

[SCP 999]

And Dunn+LLD have still done jack-shit to explain why we’re scum to them

This isn't true:

Infinity Zero started day 1 with a lot of mech talk around SCP 999's role, then transitioned into voting for Strangematter in 96 for very dubious reasons (how does it feel like that and why is Strangmatter a scumread at this point in time?) They also push instead of pulling back with the early cop claim. On day 2, Gamma getting mad about something insubstantial is definitely his scum meta. 149 kind of misses the point of what I am asking (which is if they have anyone as a scumread, not their townreads.) They do a woe is me thing for a bit which does not look town to me. In 183 they ask a question that feels more like a distraction than solving (and my answer to that is that I don't care for the premise, they may or may not have done so, but that isn't how I'm sorting people.) Their vote on Ampharos is lame.

dwlee feels like a scum-designated mislim

why do you say this? we're not even voting dwlee atm

-infinity

This is totally a slip

im going to quote this post at you if we end up flipping infinity.

my confidence of them being town based on how theyve displayed a complex flow of thought that *isn't jarring* is a much much more effective method of reading people - and i have the track record to prove this reading method is better than whatever.... this "action -> scum" method is that literally is <70% accurate at best.

[SCP 999]

like its 2021 - why are we still equating certain actions to scum actions?

just call it a policy and don't pretend it is otherwise.

[SCP 999]

Dunn is town here
I'd sheep this logic to vote IZ

I agree Dunn is town but the logic is potentially shaky, I just can’t really tear into what I think I see as a flaw yet.

-Gamma

they're tied to ampharos with a reflexive FN claim.

[SCP 999]

VOTE: roden
don't like 125

oh 999 is Koba? this feels like scum Koba

VOTE: scp 999

Both of these pushes suck imo

-Gamma

I agree - and i will ellaborate that SC has shown no higher thought process in pursuing these pushes when as town they do - when i faced them as scum when they were on fire as town(and i got them mislimmed by saying they bussed xD) -> it was a cakez that could parse stuff. paragraph level stuff.

this is 1 sentence cakez.

2 words and a vote cakez.

this is not town cakez thought process being shown.

[SCP 999]

In this game: people once again prove that being impartial is not what they actually want to see despite any and all statements to the contrary
As I see it 304 is basically innocuous if you see that it’s responding to Cakez’s posting as a while where he expresses suspicion on us and then suggests Dwlee as the designated mislim (despite no real evidence in favor imo), but a bunch of people are treating it like some smoking gun
And Dunn+LLD have still done jack-shit to explain why we’re scum to them
I’ll just say I understand the feelings of a certain someone whose name I prefer not to invoke right here and right now a whole lot better.

-Gamma

theres a reason you and infinity smoked me in council and most others struggle to find my alignment properly.

and also a general willingness to learn from mistakes helps.

[SCP 999]

town:
dunns
cephir
infinity
LLD(purely mech - should be discarded later on if nothing dayplay wise shows up)
ampharos
galron

the almost town timeout corner because i might be a little salty but also not that confident:
dwlee

honestly cannot feel this one out either way:
roden

le scum:
sircakez
zyla

unordered within tiers

a few slots i need to holistically examine to make sure but im not pressed when i literally cant die unless town really wants to discard logic so.

[SCP 999]

Cakez feels town here :3

do you think cakez is town because he is doing agreeable things that you are seeing or is there something deeper here?

as in we preflipping people or nah?

ill be honest i said that 30% because of a nice vibe from like 1 post and 70% to see if it would annoy you

I honestly can't deny i get the vibe but also like cakez has not towntold

[SCP 999]

town:
dunns
cephir
infinity
LLD(purely mech - should be discarded later on if nothing dayplay wise shows up)
ampharos
galron

the almost town timeout corner because i might be a little salty but also not that confident:
dwlee

honestly cannot feel this one out either way:
roden

le scum:
sircakez
zyla

unordered within tiers

a few slots i need to holistically examine to make sure but im not pressed when i literally cant die unless town really wants to discard logic so.

like i think cakez and zyla are tied in terms of partner equity from how they are treating eachother - zyla basically ignoring cakez while cakez subtly defending zyla on top of their very jarring leaps between thoughts and for cakez, refusal to allow us to examine their thought process.

[SCP 999]

whats fucked up is i think roden might not be paired with cakez and zyla and that we have a deepscum somewhere in the top - outside of infinity and dunnn.

[SCP 999]

gamma please stop posting right now you are crossing a line

[SCP 999]

but to give you an explaination why you might feel that way - cakez is just not acting in good faith because he randed scum.

[SCP 999]

Cakez feels town here :3

do you think cakez is town because he is doing agreeable things that you are seeing or is there something deeper here?

as in we preflipping people or nah?

ill be honest i said that 30% because of a nice vibe from like 1 post and 70% to see if it would annoy you

I honestly can't deny i get the vibe but also like cakez has not towntold

wait i just realized i replied to this in a way thats unclear what i meant LOL

the vibe part was in response to the latter part, vibe is a word i really love to use. i actually kinda have it flip flopped in how i replied to this. i was saying "fair, I have done so before to people, cant really be mad at that"

sleeeepy

[SCP 999]

but ellaborate because he is flipping red

[SCP 999]

How did you get amph from me saying "he is flipping red" after you mentioned cakez

[SCP 999]

i read LLD's iso and she literally towntold 0 times this whole game so her claim may be fake.

Theres only 1 unaccounted for dclass and i am already a town protective - and for me to DISABLE my ability is 2 dclass so I'm having trouble believing this vig claim - especially since its 1 shot and so gated supposedly.

Evaluating based on dayplay I would vote for lld as well here as pressure but I know no-one treats mechs like i do so lol

[SCP 999]

dwlee please read challenge

[SCP 999]

thats not a reason to townread an unproven claim and ignore dayplay

[SCP 999]

The only proven thing is resources used and for all we know that could be the breach factional

[SCP 999]

I'd be okay killing infinity zero, Koba or Zyra

Why

[SCP 999]

Fuck yall im townier than lld and my ability is just as proven as hers

[SCP 999]

Not having towntold is a reason. Keep deflecting

[SCP 999]

No one here thinks you towntold yet lld, you're being townread purely off virtue of the vig claim. Unlucky for you i focus on dayplay first.

[SCP 999]

Why is cakez town? Why is zyla scum?
Guarantee you cant give a non tmi answer bc ur scim with them both

[SCP 999]

I don't believe my push on you is toxic and you're just trying to shut down my push that way which is not a cool thing to weaponize all things considered.

Anyways if you think zyla is scum like that - commit a vote now and show you're serious. If im indeed scum with zyla why not trap me on the wagon or "expose" me by ramping the pressure up there?

but also funny you want to claim in response to my supposed partner infinity being wagoned I start a wagon on my other scummate zyla
Big thinker huh?

And also expected- your reasoning for zyla is descriptive - you know she is scum ergo finding scumtells is easy. Cakez you cannot make up effective reasons to townread.
You and dunns are the only 2 not to towntell in my eyes - and dunns is clear by virtue of another townread, ampharos, claiming mech clear there. - rand was kind to us here in that regard.

Luckily - the reality is we have mislims and the truth will be clear via flips and you cannot win with my legacy and both infinity and i not being able to flip red.

only reason im pressed is because unknown scum mechs regarding the only other way we could lose - but yeah.

[SCP 999]

Infinity - i suggest a fullclaim at this point just to avoid the song and dance later when we have less time so people can parse it - i dont think a claim matters because you're town anyways but it may for others and show your good faith in not making a role up.

[SCP 999]

when 2 consensus poe slots tr eachother and solve the shit out of the game>>>>>

[SCP 999]

meh i'm not going to claim until e-1

-infinity

Whats the point?? Ur never dying this game always unless a scum whos spewed you town flips - there's 0 drawback here. And if you and i get spewed town you die anyways bc im unkillable

[SCP 999]

Losing is fairly unfun, i agree.
I'm just going to ignore your emotional manipulation because the constsnt complaints dont tell me your alignment only that my claim that you're scum frustrates you.

[SCP 999]

My play hadn't been scummy.

[SCP 999]

You have demonstrated a good awareness of whats gone on thus far this game - which suggests up until i started to shine a light youve tried going under the radar.
That's definitely not towny.

[SCP 999]

Yeah idk why i have it, like i misread it and thought it was for scp 492 to keep them away bc 999 is considered the only viable counter to it - but i guess i was dumb lol.

[SCP 999]

LLD. - if you are town here i implore you to consolidate onto zyla because i hard tr infinity here - like the fact that out of all your reads and my reads differences and im hard pushing the one read we do share scumread wise, you should be able to at *least* consider good faith for getting zyla out - you have many reasons for scumreading her - and i have a similarly strong read there for other reasons - mainly that she is the least towny( my method of sorting now primarily focuses on how much i townread someone as thats my strong point - finding townies)

You should understand that my pov that you likely can be a scum doing a gambit to avoid being limmed and control the gamestate at the same time.

I also ask others leave infinityalone at least 1 day phase here - and reconsider on zyla's flip.
If zyla does flip town - I'll start reevalling - but until then i dont think i need to because i believe its a hit.

[SCP 999]

LLD could be town and im just confbiasing myself there - but cakez/zyla feel very teamed rn.

[SCP 999]

The only thing your points did was make me feel like you slipped LLD unpartnered with you. Which was why i made the LLD appeal post

[SCP 999]

wait I thought my slot was town?

[SCP 999]

ah nvm you called infinity town - but strange fypov that you think just because of my interactions with you i have to be scum -

without using my scumread on you as a reason - WHY am i scum zyla?

[SCP 999]

viewtopic.php?p=12854761&user_select%5B ... #p12854761

compared to when I encountered you as town - you're shallow as a kiddie pool here - why is this difference here zyla? and you also had a thought process I was able to follow -> here I feel jarring jumps that don't flow together.

[SCP 999]

me, going to tinfoil galron after considering zyla/LLD unpartnered but seeing their recent posts were just a mindmeld of my view of the game >>>>

[SCP 999]

Ok this is a random question for everyone : but who feels that Roden has flown really hard under the radar?

[SCP 999]

right now im back to my bottom 3 PoE of Roden - Zyla - Cakez


and im actually most confident all of a sudden on Roden - but as people are more convinced on Zyla I'm more interested there unless this case I'm about to build lifts off the ground lol.

(essentially - doesnt matter which here)

[SCP 999]

(I found something in Roden's meta that is intensely interesting - and I will elaborate in a bit, I'm just trying to go over everyone again holistically to reaffirm/update my reads)

[SCP 999]

ok like full honesty i want to switch to roden 100% but like im afraid of people then flipping it as me trying to "save a partner" [zyla] and then like end up mislimming today and then tomorrow is even worse and we snowball into a loss - so i'm being careful trying to make sure we can cooperate - but if people are willing to listen and be convinced, I'd like to shine light on Roden here right now.

[SCP 999]

ok fk it im impatient lol

Subject: Newbie 2076: Mafia Hideout

Weird. But yeah I can do that. Bus me if you need to, T3 will probably suspect me since he's seen me steamroll the last two scum games and knows he can't let me fly under the radar.

im still gonna keep reading stuff but - this SUPER stood out as this is confirmation that roden does default to lurky under the radar play as scum.

I'm going to leave the reaction to Roden to see if they deny it before I even bother verifying this - but essentially I think I caught scum lackin and trying to just watch town eat eachother for the most part(this HARDSPEWS infinity town too -> remember that.)

[SCP 999]

And in case people are wondering "is koba just trying to pull the lim off of infinity?" yes that is part of my intention and I freely admit it - but its because I don't let my townreads get limmed if i can help it.

[SCP 999]

fuck it - flashwagon VOTE: Roden

[SCP 999]

You know that its not AI for me to refuse to answer things I consider pointless to answer - parse it in a way that is actually good and I'll answer it - i typically only care for queries about my thought process - and also a major part of why I didnt answer was because you assumed I meant someone I wasn't referring to in a post.

[SCP 999]

Also didn't you yourself say actions=/= scum?

I agree with that type of scumhunting btw - but you also said that so - what's the deeper reason?

[SCP 999]

lmao the way i beatlejuiced like 4 people today

[SCP 999]

who is the person who is linked to Dunn as claiming to receive the FN message?

[SCP 999]

I just realized its not Amph after reading that ISO - and recent postings are making me doubt stuff and I need to go back and look at Dunn + their linked partner.

[SCP 999]

lmao what the fuck happened while i was gone

anyways, mech stuff:
- my role does not use d-class or guards
- i visited dunnstral last night and was told that he is town; this result is unrelated to my role

will post actual game related takes later

oh nvm it is amph i just can't read lmao

and i wasnt townreading dunn at the time and wanted to pressure amph at the time (still don't actually)


i'd really like to hear more thoughts from dunn + amph though - just because 1 clears the other does not a masonry make - and I will forever ignore mechs in favor of solving holistically <3

[SCP 999]

@Cephir, I have possibly the least experience playing with you - only doing so by proxy via Team Mafia iirc - what would you say are key differences in play when you are scum vs when you are town? - I'm basically asking you to explain why you are town for sure here. I am asking this from a place of townreading you - but I'm currently at a point where everyone feels *good* to some degree and I need to start raising the bar more.

[SCP 999]

Wtf happened yesterday? I woke up to the thread being locked and a Cop claim getting flash wagon'd for no apparent reason. I kept rereading what happened but all anyone kept saying was "yeah this is probably scum" over and over again.

I believe the Vig claim since I'm sure scum were salivating over Deadbeat's hammer and would never NK a policy elim. Though this means scum either no-killed or got blocked; it's possible they tried to shoot 999 to try to call their bluff. Either that or we have a protective role making god tier plays with zero information.

what about this did you like ?

[SCP 999]

genuine but not overblown frustration about the d1 elim; good mechanics spec

-infinity

but this is not a good holistic reason to townread ?

thats not how effective scumhunting works - you should know that.

[SCP 999]

genuine but not overblown frustration about the d1 elim; good mechanics spec

-infinity

but this is not a good holistic reason to townread ?

thats not how effective scumhunting works - you should know that.

/shrug, it's enough for a townlean for me, i might re-evaluate later but i don't have a particular reason to suspect him atm

-infinity

you're on the chopping block - why are you *not* concerned with going deeper into reasoning?

[SCP 999]

mmmmmmmmmmm

at this point im thinking like -

yeah.

zyla/infinity has 1 scum. that's SvT.


Idk im fucking like trying to restructure my reads bc i started feeling like everyone was towny and it was fucking with me.



bleh

[SCP 999]

Can you then tell me where you're at in terms of reads then? - Who should be off the table mainly

[SCP 999]

@Cephir, I have possibly the least experience playing with you - only doing so by proxy via Team Mafia iirc - what would you say are key differences in play when you are scum vs when you are town? - I'm basically asking you to explain why you are town for sure here. I am asking this from a place of townreading you - but I'm currently at a point where everyone feels *good* to some degree and I need to start raising the bar more.

I'm a good scum player, at least as far as avoiding the lim. I excel at sounding town tonally and imitating my town game.

At a baseline, I tend to play more confident and care more as scum and be kind of a sideline/support player as town (though I still post plenty usually), but I'm aware of this so will sometimes project lower confidence and/or wim on purpose. Perhaps unfortunately, having bad reads is probably a towntell. As for how to tell the difference, I honestly don't know, but some people seem to manage it. I'm probably better at sounding town on my own than managing associatives?

Appreciate it

[SCP 999]

mmmmmmmmmmm

at this point im thinking like -

yeah.

zyla/infinity has 1 scum. that's SvT.


Idk im fucking like trying to restructure my reads bc i started feeling like everyone was towny and it was fucking with me.



bleh

If you force through zyla and she flips green will you let us flip infinity

What makes you think I have the support to force anything through?

[SCP 999]

mmmm


my brain also doesn't completely hate an infinity/zyla/roden solve

[SCP 999]

let me multiiso and I will report how i feel after.

[SCP 999]

infinity could reasonably swap out for someone else on my first impression reading through

[SCP 999]

oh fuck.

i think i got it.

but i want to make sure at least 1 of my main solve flips red before I poison the thread with my ideas in case theyre wrong LOL

[SCP 999]

blessed invincible role

[SCP 999]

also ill give a hint: its a world where all of cakez, infinity, and LLD are town

[SCP 999]

i'd prob just selfvote out of embarassment at that point tbh


but i wouldn't just plow both without reevalling in between.

[SCP 999]

(in your scenario)

[SCP 999]

mmmm


my brain also doesn't completely hate an infinity/zyla/roden solve

This is a lazy solve. If you have too many town reads and you're town, the scum team has at least one deep wolf. The scum team is almost never a "bottom three least townie" combination, especially when scum just got away with the easiest Day 1 mis-elim possible.

I already moved past this thought please keep reading

[SCP 999]

I don't need to attack who I think the deepscum is because they cannot remove me from the game unless they find support for an elimination - that is all.

[SCP 999]

mmmmmmmph

VOTE: zyla

[SCP 999]

I already moved past this thought please keep reading

I don't particularly like this. Past thoughts aren't unimportant later. They don't disappear, and needn't be dismissed
It's not like they aren't useful in determining current motives just because they aren't current themselves

ok so whats your conclusion on that thought then and why is it important

[SCP 999]

ok so whats your conclusion on that thought then and why is it important

I don't dislike Roden's point, but I don't know that it isn't unimportant either.
I haven't made up my mind on you yet, but your not acknowledging past comments doesn't suggest that your goals are aligned with the foundation.

oh yeah? how so

[SCP 999]

going hands off for the next couple days - been handholding the thread too much and i want to give others a chance to.step into my role and see what they do

[SCP 999]

random read: i think dunns and amp are just in a private topic together(not necessarily a scum pt - much more leaning a hood) and they bluffed the mech clear because reflexive FN sounds really bizarre and neighborizr sounds much more likely + matches the awkwardness of the claim/early d2

[SCP 999]

plus gives me better plausibility that dunn is town because I feel they are hiding stuff

[SCP 999]

the way i was about to start asking questions but stopped mysslf to hold myself to the 2 irl day break

.

[SCP 999]

U know i wonder if scum breached me bc of the "special conditions" part of my role i claimed that was just my 2nd ability LOL
random thought
UNVOTE: zyla
votes there in spirit but I want this day to last longer bc of our hasty d1

got a nasty migraine so wont say much more

[SCP 999]

Where's the innocent part?

[SCP 999]

all scp 55 is a memory loss scp- it prob has a roleblocker element too as well as this fun vote charade.
Zyla didnt claim a roleblock target ergo they dont think they stopped a kill - this happens if youre scum and you want to hide your roleblock.

[SCP 999]

Where's the innocent part?

The fact that I directly interacted with an SCP means I'm a researcher

This is completely wrong but wrong in a way that makes me want to reeval you.

[SCP 999]

Ok back to my break zzz

[SCP 999]

wonderful thing about role madness is the myriad way townies can townslip via misunderstanding their role XD

[SCP 999]

i would argue i did myself with how i thought it affected scp 682 but no one wants to believe it :c

[SCP 999]

Which happens to be SCP999's claim as well, except in reverse

And?

[SCP 999]

Also its not in reverse because mine commutes

[SCP 999]

I'm SCP 055, check my post history and you'll note that I've done my best to speak in negatives

Someone dialogue with me about dunns/amph later i want to quash my paranoia.
Preferably those 2 themselves - because yeah.

VOTE: LLD
I'll drop a vote here for now

I feel like im just gonna be lost until theres at least 1 scumflip but being able to reasonably clear zyla feels like progress + now that LLD's 3 preferred lims are on what i believe are 3 towns and she is very under the radar too this game there should be some reevaluation there from others IMO

[SCP 999]

The vig claim is entirely NAI because its unproven so it has 0 bearing on my read on her

[SCP 999]

But since i think she is scum yes it is fake via that avenue