Slaughter Hour: The Grand Debut! | Fin

[petapan]

i did homework and reread and now think there's a decent chance dunn is scum


(yes like i did with cakez only to change my mind a day later, i don't care, shut up)

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah but have you gotten any good vibes? i usually get them from Inf and they aren't here

I think I got some early on

Oh yeah
What were these?

-_-
I'll try to find them, but you don't seem like you're very receptive based on how you asked

[Infinity 324]

VOTE: Dunn baa

[SirCakez]

yeah but have you gotten any good vibes? i usually get them from Inf and they aren't here

I think I got some early on

Oh yeah
What were these?

-_-
I'll try to find them, but you don't seem like you're very receptive based on how you asked

Why would I ask if I didn't want to know?

[petapan]

VOTE: dunnstral

[Gamma Emerald]

Peta attacked me for saying Infinity's low WIM was scummy but it just doesn't feel town here. This game isn't toxic, there's a lot of material to work with, I don't think it's IRL related. So why is Infinity barely playing?

hrrrrm
tbh I feel kinda out of it myself rn, I kinda feel dissociated from the game
which isn't the worst thing because I'm kinda trying to work thru some shit regarding getting over-invested in games, but I'd rather have a balance vs. being either all-in or way-out

[Gamma Emerald]

i was reviewing and my Toog tinfoil is probably wrong because the main two people pushing him were Gamma and Unwnd who aren't at the top of my scumpile atm
so yeah

wdym your toog tinfoil
why would people you aren't SRing pushing someone result in rethinking that person being scum? That seems to be the thing you're saying based on context clues

[Gamma Emerald]

@Cakez

You were pretty much about 'Toog being scum' early on and now you're at them being null and even some posts that read like you think they're town? Why? What changed

With Toog - they are just trying so little that it almost feels too scummy to be scum, you know? And I have this instinct that scum is in the higher-activity players and they want to use Toog as a freelim when we can gain a lot more information by flipping someone who's active and controversial. Where does a Toog flip leave us regardless of alignment? Nowhere really.
And my other stronger scumreads all have Toog as someone they'd like to elim and it just feels wrong - someone else agreed with me on this I forget who.

oh this is why the tinfoil was a thing
why do you feel like scum are higher-activity generally? I'd maybe look at people who are more engaged now than they were in previous events, but I don't think that label fits anyone rn.

[Gamma Emerald]

This game isn't toxic, there's a lot of material to work with, I don't think it's IRL related. So why is Infinity barely playing?

first of all i'm not barely playing

second of all i did talk about this to skitter towards the beginning of the game. i took a break from mafia and i feel a lot more relaxed and less emotionally invested in this game than others. it's a good thing and it lets me enjoy the game more but i might not towntell as much (though i'm not suspected as much as usual eithe

yeah, this tracks and if cakez doesn't adjust course based off of this I'm gonna start having a real problem

[unwnd]

Just have Dunn/Toog shoot at each other imo

[petapan]

this is actually me playing 5D chess to manipulate the wagonomics for both of them to be in the lead

[petapan]

Toogeloo [5]: Gypyx, Ydrasse, unwnd, SirCakez, Dunnstral
Dunnstral [4]: Taly, Dwlee99, Infinity 324, petapan
unwnd [2]: Saber, skitter30
Saber [1]: Gamma Emerald


Not Voting [2]: ulyana, Toogeloo

unofficial VC

[Morning Tweet]

"Fateful Duel"

Event Rules

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Decision 3.0.11

Toogeloo [5]:

Gypyx, Ydrasse, unwnd, SirCakez, Dunnstral

Dunnstral [4]:

Taly, Dwlee99, Infinity 324, petapan

unwnd [2]:

Saber, skitter30

Saber [1]:

Gamma Emerald

Not Voting [2]:

ulyana, Toogeloo

With 14 contestants remaining, it takes 8 votes to nominate a duelist.
The contestant with the second-most votes at majority or deadline will also be nominated. Plurality and seniority are in effect for both nominations.

The deadline for this decision is in:

(expired on 2021-10-19 17:07:18)

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[Gamma Emerald]

Cakez/Dunn ain't aligned so I'm cool with this

VOTE: Dunnstral

why
also VOTE: toogeloo

[Gamma Emerald]

Honestly if Toog is just scum my next scumgame I'm playing exactly like this

Just openly scummy and saying 'yo let's fucking murder some people. wtf is town doing? not enough bloodshed'

ngl I thought you kinda played that way already in general

[Gamma Emerald]

How is voting out me different than voting out toog for the game state?

it's not
I think you're both fine to be in the duel for that exact reason

[Gamma Emerald]

just do toog/dunn and make everyone involved happy lol

see, you

get

me
Also, I think just because toog's ISO is kinda barren doesn't mean it's not a good flip to see how others interacted with him

[SirCakez]

Ok well now I'm pretty happy with the game state lol

[SirCakez]

@Cakez

You were pretty much about 'Toog being scum' early on and now you're at them being null and even some posts that read like you think they're town? Why? What changed

With Toog - they are just trying so little that it almost feels too scummy to be scum, you know? And I have this instinct that scum is in the higher-activity players and they want to use Toog as a freelim when we can gain a lot more information by flipping someone who's active and controversial. Where does a Toog flip leave us regardless of alignment? Nowhere really.
And my other stronger scumreads all have Toog as someone they'd like to elim and it just feels wrong - someone else agreed with me on this I forget who.

oh this is why the tinfoil was a thing
why do you feel like scum are higher-activity generally? I'd maybe look at people who are more engaged now than they were in previous events, but I don't think that label fits anyone rn.

I kinda already talked w Peta and Unwind about this but it was just a theory I had based on my scum reads that doesn't really hold water

[SirCakez]

yeah but have you gotten any good vibes? i usually get them from Inf and they aren't here

I think I got some early on

Oh yeah
What were these?

-_-
I'll try to find them, but you don't seem like you're very receptive based on how you asked

Why would I ask if I didn't want to know?

Gamma you didn't respond to this

[Gamma Emerald]

here's some posting I like looking at infinity's ISO

VOTE: dunn pooky feels towny to me i don't like that vote

yeah what's up with that

the mafia already knows they want to be chosen possibly not want not to be chosen right

can you rephrase this?

PEdit: hmm you've played in a lot of awesome plists and you weren't so towny there

I like her poking at Pooky here

pooky is saying that they didn't read prism's "acquitted" post here. i was responding to the "hiding that they did" idea

nono i was saying prism might have been hiding their thoughts with regards to the chair, sorry

ok so if i got this right your thought process is:

prism and pooky both are thinking that it could be good to get voted here

pooky has an inutitive theory (the king theory) whereas prism's seems much less intuitive to you

therefore, prism could be scum who does not want to mention the more intuitive theory because it's actually the correct theory?

i think shiki is almost definitely town if the vote is not just an elimination or something similar to it

This seems like a reasonable approach to shiki's thinking

the implication in voting pooky for me is that there’s scum in peta/prism

gamma said that he was partly thinking from scum!pooky's perspective with those scumreads right? like "these are people who look scummy on the surface so scum!pooky is likely to scumread them". that's how i interpreted it.

i agree that it's weird to then vote peta. but none of this seems like a great idea as scum

i don't really townread him that strongly either though so i guess it's not too important

@saber a thought process that you don't understand on the surface is more likely to be genuine imo

the read on me seems fairly evaluated, I don't exactly sense intent to pocket or some other agenda

prism is town i think, she doesn't need to put this much energy into justifying herself as scum

PEdit: lol

deviating from the intent of this post because I do wonder what happened to this read?

prism mentioning her read rate on gamma + gamma trying to claim his read on pooky was partly a meme + i realized the arguments i was using to defend gamma were similar to the ones i was using when i was his scumbuddy

that's why i changed my read on gamma

This is a reasonable progression on me and resembles how infinity has rethought her read on me in the past as town

I might fetch more later if I feel like it, but I think these are some good early ones

[Infinity 324]

deviating from the intent of this post because I do wonder what happened to this read

you being towny makes prism slot scummier, also everyone else did townier stuff

[Morning Tweet]

"Hey! Wake up! No napping on the job."

Gypyx is being prodded.

[Gamma Emerald]

deviating from the intent of this post because I do wonder what happened to this read

you being towny makes prism slot scummier, also everyone else did townier stuff

that doesn't feel sound but I also don't think there's an explicit flaw in your argument

[Saber]

Dunnstral/Toogeloo isn't the worst result in the world. I think Toogeloo is >random-contestant but at the end of the day they're doing absolutely nothing for the contestants and it's not like what they're doing is hard to fake by any means. It's hard to justify them making it to endgame basically.

Dunnstral has just been somewhat lacking and may have sliped about secret insider stagehand info in the first phase, and may also be the reason Pooky died.

VOTE: Dunnstral