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[ssbm_Kyouko]

nyeh!

[MargotRosa]

Town backup vigilante

I didn't want to mention it, because it makes scum's kills pretty much auto for the rest of the game, and it also means that if we suspected ssbm, I'm guaranteed to die the night we killed her, and would have just wasted the role

It's useless as soon as you have to claim it

[MargotRosa]

The reason I considered role claiming D1 however, was because I felt it would have done some very interesting things for the setup day 1, especially given that Scum clearly knew there was a vigilante but Town did not (except for me and vigilante D1)

[MargotRosa]

I wasn't considering it in power analysis because I could tell that the likelihood of it doing anything was remote at best

[MargotRosa]

Chaos>Salsa/Datisi is still the best path I think, where town!Chaos means Salsa is next, and scum!Chaos means Datisi next. Again, this only loses to Aristea/Datisi as a team. Otherwise we either win or go to final 3 of Salsa/Datisi, Aristea, and MargotRosa (assuming scum kill the conftowns).

Let's say for arguments sake we've reached one of those final 3s.

Scum!Chaos/Town!Datisi: Salsa, Aristea, MargotRosa
Town!Chaos/Scum!Salsa: Datisi, Aristea, MargotRosa

Who is the last scum in both these situations and why? Open question to all.

I don't think it's likely at all we have Datisi/Ari team.

In your First, it's Salsa. In your second, it's Datisi

[Aristeia]

i think 2 ICs, a vig and a backup vig is already pretty stacked in terms of town power so probably scum forgot to shoot at night?

[Aristeia]

which leads me back to Salsa/ChaosO

[Aristeia]

I don't think Datisi forgets to submit a nightkill

[Aristeia]

I don't feel very confident about this guess because it's kind of fitting the pieces in a way that makes me happy

[ChaosOmega]

Town backup vigilante

I didn't want to mention it, because it makes scum's kills pretty much auto for the rest of the game, and it also means that if we suspected ssbm, I'm guaranteed to die the night we killed her, and would have just wasted the role

It's useless as soon as you have to claim it

That's exactly what I thought your role was. Can we please lim Salsa now?

[Datisi]

That's exactly what I thought your role was.

i'm sorry, how did you manage to work that out? was there a super obvious crumb i'm missing?

and uh. town backup vigilante. so there's already 3 confirmed towns in the game, two ic's and our vig. (i'm assuming 1-shot.) so you're telling me, once scum manages to do the mechanically correct play and kill the 1-shot vigilante, their reward is... town getting a full vigilante? who is practically another ic since they can confirm themselves once they shoot? and it's most likely gonna result in town getting an extra yeet (since two vig shots = 1 extra yeet)? *and* even if scum knows of the backup vig, and even if they kill them the night after they kill the og vig, they're still fucked because the vig will be able to get the shot off during that night anyway?

i dunno. if this mess is somehow balanced, then scum has a literal metric shit ton of power to counteract the town.

and worse, it still doesn't explain where tf the nightkill went. nobody here is something like bulletproof and sitting on this info for shits and giggles, right?

[Salsabil Faria]

Yeah, keep the obvscum(s) alive and kill me, town will literally win

[Datisi]

salsa, why are you acting like a jester?

[Salsabil Faria]

Cause I can

[Gypyx]

votecount 4.4

MargotRosa (1) :

Datisi

Datisi (1) :

MargotRosa

Salsabil Faria (1) :

ChaosOmega

ChaosOmega (1) :

Salsabil Faria

Not voting (3) Enchant - Aristeia ; ssbm_Kyouko

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[ChaosOmega]

That's exactly what I thought your role was.

i'm sorry, how did you manage to work that out? was there a super obvious crumb i'm missing?

and uh. town backup vigilante. so there's already 3 confirmed towns in the game, two ic's and our vig. (i'm assuming 1-shot.) so you're telling me, once scum manages to do the mechanically correct play and kill the 1-shot vigilante, their reward is... town getting a full vigilante? who is practically another ic since they can confirm themselves once they shoot? and it's most likely gonna result in town getting an extra yeet (since two vig shots = 1 extra yeet)? *and* even if scum knows of the backup vig, and even if they kill them the night after they kill the og vig, they're still fucked because the vig will be able to get the shot off during that night anyway?

i dunno. if this mess is somehow balanced, then scum has a literal metric shit ton of power to counteract the town.

and worse, it still doesn't explain where tf the nightkill went. nobody here is something like bulletproof and sitting on this info for shits and giggles, right?

It just fits too well with the setup imo. Mafia IC/Vig finder, we have 2 ICs and 2 Vigs.

I have a theory about the missed NK, but I don't think it's helpful to discuss.

[Datisi]

I have a theory about the missed NK, but I don't think it's helpful to discuss.

well, you're not outing any power roles, and it doesn't seem like we have much else to talk about now, so...?

[Salsabil Faria]

Uh! Give him some time to talk with his partner in the scum pt

[ssbm_Kyouko]

hmm

[ssbm_Kyouko]

something like bulletproof and sitting on this info for shits and giggles

[ChaosOmega]

I have a theory about the missed NK, but I don't think it's helpful to discuss.

well, you're not outing any power roles, and it doesn't seem like we have much else to talk about now, so...?

something like bulletproof and sitting on this info for shits and giggles

I'm assuming this is claiming BP. This was my theory, although I assumed it was Enchant. This makes me lean back to Ari being scum if she did pick up that you were vig and tried to NK you and failed.

[Enchant]

Ok i am 1-Shot Bulletproof IC, i hope you happy i am outing that.

[ChaosOmega]

No? Zero reason for you to claim that given that ssbm is not a suspect.

[Enchant]

Yes.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I think he's saying he's not happy, not that you aren't BP