Open 834: Trust Fall - Game Over

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Greetings and Salutations Lady Tammy,


I am glad that we have the opportunity to meet again - hopefully under better terms this time as the last time we met was not the best circumstances. It has been a long time since that fateful evening in the smoky antechamber and I am a reformed bear. I promise that this time I have only the best of intentions.

I know you may have doubts about my alignment but I assure you that this time I am aligned with the town and I will endeavour to prove myself to you with deeds and words both fair and noble such that I may win your hand in this dance.

I have heard a mutual acquaintance remark that you are perhaps the kindest and fairest of all the ladies who grace the court and have no difficulty at all proving both your alignment and hunting down the enemies who would do us harm - possibly even in the top 90%. I hope you are as aligned with this fair town as I am and that we might eventually reach a point in the game where you might trust me enough to allow me to sweep you off your feet.

Deep Bow

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

that's such a scummy reaction what

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wtf

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

that's not how this works at all

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why did you randomly do that after seeing koba troll the shit out of the last game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why did you randomly do that after seeing koba troll the shit out of the last game

To troll you, weeb

well played

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

my new wincon is not reading any of pooky's posts

gonna call Enchant town

probably a good move

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pagetop?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pooky town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Keep the sweet nothings coming and maybe just maybe I'll get over my inherint mistrust of my ability to trust you.

Milady it would be an honor to win your trust and make up for the many lies I told during our last meeting!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You were town in our last meeting though!

I did, however, sit in a huff for the first two days refusing to acknowledge you might be town due to seeing your great ability to lie in our previous two meetings.

(My reasoning for the paranoia was silly.)

oh true!

I guess you weren't around that much but also cruelly murdered by the criminal miscreant known as CakeBoi

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i laughed

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I've never seen the trolly side of Tammy before

I think I am in love.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do you have any townreads

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I've never seen the trolly side of Tammy before

I think I am in love.

I'm just trying to be worthy, m'lord.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the first trust fall game i did with duckie the town did a really good job of using trusts to create psuedo conftowns and really dialed up the pressure on the remaining scum. i only won cuz jake the wolf flat out refused to play the game lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

duckie u should be as obvtown as your alt that would be very useful

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think Prism is my first townread which doesn't have any irony attached.

this is disrespectful towards her

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you do have a cuter avatar

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think Prism is my first townread which doesn't have any irony attached.

this is disrespectful towards her

I can attach some irony if that will help?? @prism let me know

she hasnt even done anything yet lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i decided before i signed up that I would try to win Tammy's hand in dance or stay behind with her if I believe she is like mafia to keep her company.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

duckie and prism r going to leave together

calling it now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im an angel

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

3 pagetops in 5 pages wild

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i am hoping with all my heart that you rolled town as I did but if you did not I promise to stay behind and play you beautiful songs on youtube to keep you company <3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

her teammate must suck

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i think shes saying you should have recognized it since someone posted it in the last game you played

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

tbf i played that game also and i didnt recognize it but mostly because i suffer from short term memory loss and an allergy to reading things over 4 lines in length

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i am hoping with all my heart that you rolled town as I did but if you did not I promise to stay behind and play you beautiful songs on youtube to keep you company <3

If I were scum, you don't know how much I would appreciate this. Your presence in games is enjoyable, even when you're a murderer, but here as scum I wouldn't have the sweet release of an early elimination when I made myself obvious. I'd just have to sit around waiting til the end. So, yeah the company would be nice.

I am town though!

Tammy I can say without question that if you were scum here that you have wrapped your hands around my fragile heart and that I am quite helpless against your charm and wit.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Spoiler: For Lady Tammy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I have full confidence that I can get townread whenever I want

fact check: true

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the lesson i learned from the last run of this is that even if i get perfect reads people will just ignore me and throw so im not going to give a shit about catching bad guys this time and just focus on convincing tammy that i am very town :2

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm not reading his posts

@Moderator please check if this is allowed under site rules

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

He quoted the post where I slipped up and accidentally admitted that I'm reading his posts. Clever bear.

which post is this?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the lesson i learned from the last run of this is that even if i get perfect reads people will just ignore me and throw so im not going to give a shit about catching bad guys this time and just focus on convincing tammy that i am very town :2

haven't read the quoted ydr but based on context clues, I feel like I should say hard pocketing one person into mid/lategame was literally Pooky's plan as scum in this setup previously

but then again (based on context clues) this is too overt and funny to actually be a strong indicator of that agenda. I think? someone tell me if I'm right I'm just guessing here

w i l d

so duckie saw me trying to get moderator confirmation of whether he was reading my posts in order to point out he was not pattern recognizing the exact playstyle replication from the time i played this as scum vs him so he pre-empted me by now saying I'm literally replicating my scum meta while denying he's actually reading my posting.

some top tier moves by duckie.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I feel like I'm having deja vu from the first time I played this except I'm town this time


do you know what I mean @MafMen

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think he's saying your reaction is scum!indicative

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

whispers

day 5 innocent child

i trust you : )

you gotta bold that for it to count

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I might be misreading his intent

lemme ask him again just to be sure

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I feel like I'm having deja vu from the first time I played this except I'm town this time


do you know what I mean @MafMen

no
first time playing this setup
also not town
i can understand the confusion though

hmm

weird

cuz I know who you are

but I guess it's possible you don't know who you are.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i don't think I can emotionally recover if Tammy really is mafia here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This nearly made me laugh out loud

oddly charming

might be trying to pocket me

not sure why he'd bother since I have sworn myself to Tammy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also i for some reason wrote prism twice
the top prism in my brackets is meant to be wisdom

is this because Wisdom is more townie than Prism or because Prism's scum game is much better than Wisdom's scum game?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think you guys are weird and giving both wisdom and prism too easy of a pass there.

tammy if there's one thing i've learned about trust fall games it's that if a nub wants to fall for a scum player there's almost no way to convince them not to game throw

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think you guys are weird and giving both wisdom and prism too easy of a pass there.

wisdom did post after being trusted

he could've not read the rules about voting who knows

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

thats funny i can't remember if i read the rules when I was mafia in this game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wisdom was almost certainly pedited by Enchant pointing out that votes meant trust, and would still have had time to vote me back before my lazy phoneposting self got back

why would wisdom know to trust enchant's interpretation of the rules?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like you're assuming wisdom as scum would know to trust Enchant's rule interpretation as gospel and also know to press the eject button immediately inside a minute.

when it probably takes him more time than that to check the rules for himself to make sure enchant isn't bullshitting him, make a decision on what he wants to actually do, and there's also the fact that we signed up to play a game in the first place?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I've literally never misread Wisdom or Prism in my life

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wait so can I trust her or not?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm so tempted ngl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

follow your heart

so you totally are who I thought you were :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wild

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you'll alt slip eventually

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so pockited

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I would but I have so much music to play for you still

heart of my heart.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the top one was meant to be wisdom

he can't tell the two of you apart

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i don't think I can emotionally recover if Tammy really is mafia here

Do you think anything she's done so far is particularly towny or is this just horsing around?

there's no statement of my read on her in that post, i'll just be super sad if she's mafia.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Tammy what should Prism be townreading you for?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Nobody here knows or understands my mindset well enough to get the correct read at this moment.

Au contraire mademoiselle

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Holy shit Infinity is in this game I thought someone was shitposting when they said she moved up LMAO

rofl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

tammy's thought line of "i wouldn't be good here if scum" and "i'd already be impressed with myself if scum here" seems genuine so she's lean town i think

i don't think scum!tammy would think she did anything good yet

why can't scum!tammy just be impressed with how she's pockiting the shit out of me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

itd also be strange for an experienced mafia player to think selfreads are a good thing to do as maf lol

i self-read myself all the time as mafia

its dope

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'd be lowkey disappointed if the scum team was just infinity+klick

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'd be lowkey disappointed if the scum team was just infinity+klick

Do you think cookie cutter is town?

more than those 2 at least

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

playing only when he feels like it

oh cmon i just took a tiny nap

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You’re underestimating how terrible I think it will go when I roll scum.

I’d consider this a masterpiece lol

so pocketed

the only thing that would hurt me more terribly than Tammy flipping red would be if she were to leave with anyone else.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

she may yet do both

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky is weirding me out a bit

I should probably explain at some point but I have chosen not to in order to leave you in suspense.

If you would like me to explain let me know but I think it would be more fun for both of us if I did not.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh snap. maybe the real reason i can't read his posts is because i'm self-absorbed and upset that nobody is talking about me.

I think Klick is fairly interested in you.

He hasn't talked about anyone else since!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Can you elaborate on what would hypothetically make this a masterpiece?

I’m posting.

The fact that Lady Tammy even deigns this game worthy enough of her time that she talk to us lowly plebes indicates the purity of her heartsong.

Were she evil, she would not even give us the time of day.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Nope. I pretty much have a healthy dose of suspicion of everyone here right now.

imo you're being too paranoid. just because you've falsely cleared people for similar reasons in the past doesn't make them invalid.

Infy if you're going to post irrelevant gibberish you must do so with sufficient quantity and humor such that people don't notice you are mostly posting irrelevant gibberish.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

that's like the fastest you've ever townread me which gives me paranoid vibes unfortunately lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Lady Tammy could you explain the feelings/headspace you were in when you made this following post?

Spoiler: Shockingly Scandalous

Dooo iiiiit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

did you think I would trust you just because you asked?

I'm pockited but i'm not like

that

pockited

yet

besides leaving with you now would mean I can't like flirt with you anymore :<

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh how you play my heartstrings like a virtuoso

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

on a post per towniness level Faer is S-Tier

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

on a towniness per post level Faer is S-Tier

fixed

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

genuine as in they seem to really believe it

while i definitely think fae is thinking about it all wrong the reasons dont seem to be the kind of waffle youd see from scum

mindmeld here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

there's no way you're not the person I think you are

but I guess it's not implausible that you've forgotten who you are.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

No, I think that's entirely fair. Could be a newbie awkwardness, could just be writing style in general, could be not having much to comment on, but I don't see the towniness off the bat that you guys see.

I think when people use a reason to townread someone that's so convoluted/weird/notgreat that it's unlikely to be "faked" then it's probably just true.

scum tend to want their reasoning to be like "good"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wait actually I guess you might not know who I am because I'm not on my main main.

that makes sense.

few people even know what that one is but I guess you would be one of them.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh i was talking about the scumread on duckie lol

i think it applies even more for scumreads lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I can hear Prism crinkling her nose in disapproval and muttering "trivially easy to fake".

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

our trolling game is on point

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You don't want to know what your alter ego has been up to while you've been asleep tbh

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it would be such a mind fuck if Mafmen is my alt like in that movie Memento

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you can't get banned for having bad short term memory

that would be ablelist

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wanting to argue is scum indicative

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

just say you want more depth because you love people talking about you

it's more honest

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wanting to argue is scum indicative

do not tell me its not fun

It is very fun

and Mafia love to do it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

mb the scum team is Tammy/Prism and they are just straight up dunking on me this game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wow double posting to steal the pagetop

there's no way you aren't who I think you are

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think it's very person dependent but in general I agree.

it does say something about the quality of play on this site that it works 95% of the time

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

duckie i've been so consistently wrong about you that at this point I am tempted to just flip my read of you and work backwards

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I was hoping that Prism had roped peta into playing this game too.

it's ok i will do a peta impersonation this game if you prefer him to me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

does peta still play on MS? i haven't been keeping up well lately

yea he's still around somewhere

a very rare sighting

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I was hoping that Prism had roped peta into playing this game too.

it's ok i will do a peta impersonation this game if you prefer him to me

imitations are never as good as the real thing!

Lebron James is not good enough to carry Larry Bird's Jockstrap much less be in the same conversation when talking about the Mount Rushmore of Basketball Players.

For one thing, Lebron has always been a terrible shooter, the man relies on his physical talents to get to the basket - relying on the soft rules of today's NBA rather than learning the sweet shotmaking skills of the 80s.

If Lebron had played in the Larry Bird years, he would've found himself beaten up to a pulp every night and there's no way in hell he'd be driving uncontested to the bucket 10-20 times a game.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This is great!

I would move mountains to get you to smile for a second <3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

99% of games I play with Prism are like this:



Pooky: Prism's town because (A), (B), and (C)
Prism: Trivially easy to fake. I'm insulted
Pooky: I've never been wrong about Prism in my life.
Prism: I will punish and break you at some point in the future.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I do read and appreciate the feedback it's just I'm quite shitty at remembering things

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I remember reading and thinking "wow prism is so brilliant and smart" but i didn't actually retain anything because my brain is a leaky sieve.

I think it's because I'm too old to change my ways.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

misreading on an alt doesn't even count

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't even think of my own alts as me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm a lightning thief,
I'm a falling leaf,
I'm rain on the sea,
I'm snow on the tree.

You'll never catch me!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the fawning wasn't even over your play lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

good night! <3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

would you trust me duckie?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why r u not happy about it : (

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Even I wondered at that double post.

please...
someone...
just one of you please say the name of who you think i am

I think you're me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

duuuuuuuckkkliiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnngggggg

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wow

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'm being involuntarily erased halp

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do you think it's likely pooky spends the entire game hitting on his scumbuddy?

Don't you remember me hitting on Hectic for like most of the first Trust Fall game we played together?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I lean towards Tammy's argument against Wisdom-town being scum-motivated
And I didn't love the contrast between her answering my self-meta question with 'idunno', followed shortly by talking about how she'd already be proud if she were scum here

what's her scum motivation?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

PEdit: Wisdom being town and being soft-confirmed would be bad for scum!Tammy

because?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

PEdit: the same reason any town being confirmed would be bad for any scum

I'm unsure if you're making shit up or if you just don't understand how scum usually win this type of game lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

expending political capital to shade someone who's town is not exactly a winning strategy for a scumside player.

your goal is to get someone to trust you

not make sure nobody can trust anyone (cuz that's like literally impossible)

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

unless like your target happens to be LHF and you want to designate a town to be left behind but even then that's not something you do without taking target considerations into account and wisdom is probly not the easier person to target lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

to shade everyone?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yee

the risk/reward calculus is kinda fuck'd up

for a townie, a scum getting falsely cleared is like halfway to losing

for a scum, a townie getting cleared is like - not really a big deal.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok so what Tammy was doing to Duckie.

Was a player trying to get rid of a "softclear" on another player.

This is not the same thing.

As a player trying to "discredit" or scumread a player.

Saying that "Reason A" is a bad reason to townread someone because ____

is not the same thing

as saying "I think ____ is mafia because of ????"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

actually that's wholly inaccurate since we were talking about Tammy's approach to Wisdom and I just brainfarted.

I don't think Tammy was scum-reading Wisdom

She simply did not like him being "soft-cleared" for reasons she expressed doubt in.

That's not the same as discrediting/scumreading someone.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If you think of the game as a ladder of influence.

Scum do not want to be in the bottom 4 slots.

The way they typically do that is to figure out who is "pullable" on townside and try to drag them into the bottom 4 with them.

Targetting someone on the top of the ladder like Wisdom who is getting soft-cleared by Duckie for "blah reasons" is not good strategy because at best you pull them to mid-tier and if duckie ignores you and trusts Wisdom its like you just wasted a bunch of energy making an enemy of someone who is now at the top of the ladder.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You double-brainfarted, the discredit thing is about Klick's actions in regards to Tammy

ok but he was using my point about scum strategy to explain to you why scum don't discredit and I'm trying to explain to him why that point doesn't apply to what Klick is doing to Tammy.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yeah for sure. the wincon is different but I think it's pretty hard to actually pivot your plan to charge that wincon rather than just, playing a scumgame

I think the wincon is actually way easier than the standard scum win con.

usually when you pocket one person in a game you don't like win off that.(since theres like lots of other people who can vote your ass off)

You still have to maintain the pocket over multiple mis elims and keep the person nice and happy and not questioning why they aren't dead etc.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Mafmen

do you think its realistic for Klick to worry about Tammy getting to leave

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

there's more posts about Tammy than anyone else in the game lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Mafmen

do you think its realistic for Klick to worry about Tammy getting to leave

town!klick that scumreads tammy? yes
scum!klick no

ok who is town!klick worried about leaving with tammy?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like is there even a person in the game that Klick can realistically believe would leave with Tammy rn or in the near future?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

preventing scum leaving is priority #1 not worrying about who specifically would leave with them
but im not klick

I don't understand why you would be worried about someone leaving if nobody trusts them >.>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what if klick and tammy are mafia together and klick is bigbrain attacking Tammy to get me to fall for her since he knows im skeptical of him?

~.~

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

And the fact you are stubborn about this just makes me think that you *know* Klick to be town so you know yourself to be right (;
Hence my statement about you tming.

why cant mafmen just be town and wrong about scum klick tho lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im not even sure the two of you know what you're arguing about at this point

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like is there even a person in the game that Klick can realistically believe would leave with Tammy rn or in the near future?

Your implication is that my motive for expressing a SL on Tammy was to avoid anyone leaving with her
I'm not sure how you got to that conclusion

what is your motive?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok but what is the motive behind your expression of the tammy read? what is your goal?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

y cant it be something as simple as
"i see scummy, i point out scummy"

because the motivation helps read into whether he's doing it because he's genuinely worried she is scum pulling the wool over our eyes or if he's doing it because he thinks it will get him townread because he's going through the motions.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I dont think Klick-scum is going to tell you that his motivation was to get townread so it's kind of pointless asking him, but okay

Sure but he still has to make up a believable motive if he wants to say my motive attribution is wrong?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

like is there even a person in the game that Klick can realistically believe would leave with Tammy rn or in the near future?

Your implication is that my motive for expressing a SL on Tammy was to avoid anyone leaving with her
I'm not sure how you got to that conclusion

Like I don't like this response because it's responding to my comment without specificity(It's essentially saying I can't look inside his head, which is true),

I would've liked it much better if the response had said something along the lines of:

"Actually my motive is __________ for expressing SL on Tammy"

and then I can look at _____ and his posting and try to see if that thought process actually makes sense for going through his head.

Hence why I ask him, well ok if you are saying that's not your motive then uh what was your motive?

His response:

I think Tammy's >rand scum and wanted to express that because it was one of the few notable things I had to say up to that point

Right now I basically just intend to telegraph reads that feel significant enough to me while I get my head around the setup. I don't feel nearly as urgent as I usually do in Mafia games due to how the setup works, which I'm greatly appreciating since I seem to have less time than most of the playerlist so far

Feels incredibly soft and something

safe

that he made up to respond in a way that doesn't feel quite real to me. It feels somewhat manufactured and explanatory/defensive.

I would've liked it much better if he simply said I shaded Tammy because __________.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

am I universally townread? :0

I refuse to ever townread you after being traumatized in that game we shall never speak of.

but I do wub you <3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Trivially easy to fake

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am much better now that Tammy is back!

How are you ? :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

uw imo is ridiculously strong

disturb is busted

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

thats true

it is super boring

also who r ur scumreads

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its a joke

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I need more data

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I love beating a dead horse tho.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Tammy puts the bar very low on the ground and proudly steps over it.

Raising her arms in triumph.

Ngl this does feel like town Tammy.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Also, sorry Infinity-I did not notice you shifted your pronoun to they. I will do my best to revise it moving forward.

same

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Infinity you've played quite a few games with scum!me

what made you decide you could confidently townread me on page 2?

is my scum game that one dimensional to you ? :<

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pooky town

ok whatever this is then

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

*nods sagely*

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Thank you m'lord.

It's an honor to defend you m'lady.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

post 666 cookie is confirmed scum.

I'm not sure how Tammy knows to pockit me with memes but I am absolutely besotted.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Spoiler: (´｡• ᵕ •｡`) ♡ A Song For Tammy ♡( ◡‿◡ )

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

reality check me pls. does scum!mafmen bother going thru like 3 pages of nonsensical fighting with town!wisdom?

if he is actually a horcrux of me, yes.

I've spent 40+ pages fighting with townies on the dumbest shit imaginable before.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'd probly pick Prism/Wisdom

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

maybe Duckie Wisdom

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't feel very confident read-wise rn

the weaker players r barely participating and I don't feel comfortable townbinning the stronger players atm since they are perfectly capable of maintaining this kind of thread presence/activity as scum.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Infinity 324 Oct 19, 06:09pm Oct 20, 09:09pm 0 days 0 hours 42
Klick Oct 19, 09:00pm Oct 20, 09:11pm 0 days 0 hours 24
Enchant Oct 19, 06:00pm Oct 20, 09:13pm 0 days 0 hours 19
cool cookie Oct 19, 07:26pm Oct 20, 09:16pm 0 days 0 hours 13

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

when I say weak i don't mean like overall weak

just weaker in the sense that I feel their scum games are not as strong as their town games and there is readable disparity

I don't actually know if this applies to cookie

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't feel very confident read-wise rn

the weaker players r barely participating and I don't feel comfortable townbinning the stronger players atm since they are perfectly capable of maintaining this kind of thread presence/activity as scum.

who are the weaker players?

me

you r probly the strongest scum player in this pool

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm a bit dubious about what the scum motivation for hard wking Klick is there.

if klick is town and the only person who trusts klick is MafMen then its an easy out

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

when I say weak i don't mean like overall weak

just weaker in the sense that I feel their scum games are not as strong as their town games and there is readable disparity

I don't actually know if this applies to cookie

catch me as scum and you can put me in this category

touche

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wait didnt i catch you in the last trust fall game infinity

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

just that rando troll came in and was like hehee heehehe infinity locktown trust infinity lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't consider troll as an insult tho.

It's more of a badge of affection for me.

I am quite proud of trolling myself :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wait didnt i catch you in the last trust fall game infinity

honestly i didn't know how much of your scumread was a joke but sure

do you have a read on cookie?

probtown

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

hmm why

feels unfiltered/unfakey

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

also wisdom confirmed he didn't notice the trust so he's owned that the clear was phoney

oh i missed this lol

townread on wisdom slightly weaker i guess

wait what

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

hmm why

feels unfiltered/unfakey

if you had to call the scumteam right now who would you call?

I don't have a guess that I feel good about :/

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky - why Wisdom so town for you?

that conversation last night was super wild

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

he made me lose sleep -.-

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

1 line summary?

i don't even know what he was talking about

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'm only really happy about pooky, but really that's based on his care-free townie zeal. also i'm not the smallest poster now so you can see i am gaining strength

i'm very care-free as mafia too

my zeal is overwhelmings

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'm only really happy about pooky

also what do you think about me&tammy since that's realistically the only person I am interested in leaving with.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

solid points. I am happy to wait and serenade Lady Tammy with more sappy love songs.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Sweet Dreams Lady Tammy!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I still don't trust him

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the wounds run too deep

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm still lowkey traumatized by memories of pouring my heart out to skitter at 5 am while you cackle and laugh at me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

still wub you tho

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

so what r u going to do with your newfound powas

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

w i l d

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

So...
If Pooky is town.
And Tammy is town.
And you is town.
And assuming i am not going today as well.

It's 4 townies who doesh't leave today. Half of town.
Chances pretty grim from this point i quess.

I mean you don't actually need to have town leave to solve the game

we can just have you "trust" people one by one to clear them on a consensus basis

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I remember the first time we played it felt pretty shit to be scum and watch town "clear" people off and slowly narrow POE down

tho I guess that was a harder clear then what we r doing now since Hectic had already escaped atp

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i mean that's not how it works

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It does occur to me as scum that it'd be better to try and get a carry softcleared early, use funky trust clear mechanics to get your more vulnerable player through, and then just wait for town to inevitably send you away because you're soft confirmed.

it also occurs to me that I'm soft confirmed and suggesting whacky clearing strategies which would benefit me if I were scum with someone with a weaker scumgame.

I assume if you r scum that your partner has a weaker scum game by definition

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I would prefer to win Tammy's heart the old fashioned way rather than be soft-confirmed

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It is challenging to overcome her paranoia about me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Also it would help me finalize my read on her for her to have plausible doubt about my alignment

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do tell

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

shocking

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

that's a spicy solve

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm feeling lowkey sad about Wisdom voting Tammy for selfish reasons ~.~

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You're sad that Tammy will get to conftown?

no I'm sad I won't get to "solve" for her alignment

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

There's always more mystery and fun in romantic pursuits when you're not 100% sure about the alignment of the other side