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[Dwlee99]

That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying in this game, your expression of having too many townreads doesn't come off as genuine

And why not

I'm not the only one who has expressed problems trying to find scum and has too many townreads

Like, AFTER I said I had too many townreads ydrasse also did, so do you think she is being disingenuous too?

[Gamma Emerald]

HURT: toog, gypyx, dwlee, (harley/cakez)

my desired order would be something like

(whichever of cakez/HQ isn't left out)
ulyana
ydrasse
(skitter+Ggy in either order)
Taly
(me+Peta in either order)

Why unsure on

HQ/Cakez

?

HQ has been posting a fair amount and working to rectify things wrt her slot, but I feel like she's not doing the exact right things, and her early posting kinda doesn't sit right with me.
I dislike how Cakez was like "my reads have been good this game" post-Dunn flip in an attempt to push infinity when he was pretty confidently SRing Cephrir, and that ended up wrong. I'm willing to give peta some credit for the Dunn associatives though, it's just not enough and there's also a spiteful part of me that wants to disregard it because my infinity townread was dismissed so readily when I gave it in the blue room. But I don't want to be that petty, so I'm giving the TR some due.

[SirCakez]

nunununu i cant really post because occupied and phone but dwlee now using “reevaluating” to possibly exclude me after treating me as definitely town for pink pt is !!!!! like something is definitely afoot

like how would this happen with multiple people most of whom dwlee included haven’t given reasoning and when they have it was literally the posts of a flipped mafia

What does the second line even mean

And you can complain about my reeval but I literally just reread this game phase and started townbinning people if their day start was good to me or mindmelded with me in some way

like five people randomly starting suspecting me here when it would be advantageous for them and the only one who has given any reasoning whatsoever is sircakez whose reasoning is posts dunnstral made like it feels impossible to me that there would not be at least one mafia involved in that possibly more

this doesn't make any sense

how not?

why would mafia randomly gang up on you here?

[petapan]

Alright, well, have fun bickering amongst yourselves.

that's what the game is

[Gamma Emerald]

That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying in this game, your expression of having too many townreads doesn't come off as genuine

And why not

I'm not the only one who has expressed problems trying to find scum and has too many townreads

Like, AFTER I said I had too many townreads ydrasse also did, so do you think she is being disingenuous too?

It's what came after that really bothers the shit out of me and makes me think it's disingenuous
although like, I am concerned about how much ydrasse has seemed disconnected atm, but I think through that her "too many TRs" claim makes sense
You haven't felt disconnected or anything so idg why you were at "too many TRs" here the same way I get how she was at that point

[SirCakez]

sircakez you silly little man did you bus dunn like you bussed in final fantasy

Idk if he is in his normal bussing meta but I’m very skeptical of that when that claim seems to be about a 1/3 pool from event 3, and I’m pretty sure there were other suspects of his I need to double-check from event 1

my bussing meta has been dead for a while now ftr
I used to literally bus my whole team every scumgame lmao
now I occasionally bus but only if I have to or if my buddy is just total deadweight to the point it'll look suspicious if I don't

[Gamma Emerald]

How about you pick two and I pick two people to leave behind gamma

I pick skitter and gypyx

well since I can't pick you, then toog and cakez

[SirCakez]

sircakez you silly little man did you bus dunn like you bussed in final fantasy

I didn't even bus in final fantasy

You very much did even if you didn’t push through scum wagons
You were closer to Among Us!Cakez than DotDF!Cakez

ok well I don't consider it bussing unless I'm actually trying to get the person pushed through
I feel like I just did normal distancing in FF

I kind of want to give the car keys to Cakez. Let him decide for the group.

lol you have way too much faith in me or you're scum and think I'll do a shit job

[SirCakez]

Here ya go.

My first 4 across would be Cakez, dwlee, Gamma, and then myself, in that order. If no one dies, and game isn't over, well, we at least have something to talk about.

this isn't a horrible list

[SirCakez]

honestly I forgot I was scumreading Ceph that portion of the game was nearly an irl month ago

[ulyana]

why would mafia randomly gang up on you here?

a) it could just be one as i said, but i don't think mafia would not participate in as a whole, though two-three definitely seems possible if trying to win game here

and

b) to stop me from crossing? like it's one less slot that could be occupied by mafia and they get rid of me and they limit my participation in choosing who should cross by making it seem like i'm scumread it's not super complicated

[ulyana]

why would mafia randomly gang up on you here?

a) it could just be one as i said, but i don't think mafia would not participate in as a whole, though two-three definitely seems possible if trying to win game here

and

b) to stop me from crossing? like it's one less slot that could be occupied by mafia and they get rid of me and they limit my participation in choosing who should cross by making it seem like i'm scumread it's not super complicated

between the five or so of you the sumtotal of the reasoning is posts by dunnstral so i don't think it's unreasonable to think there's probably scum motivation in there somewhere

[petapan]

cakez why do you want to get rid of ulyana

i am probably most confident in you being town right now but i don't really see that read, other than non-interaction with dunn but in my coverage that could apply to a significant number of people so i don't think it's really telling, and there are some signs from his iso that are +town for her

[Dwlee99]

It's what came after that really bothers the shit out of me and makes me think it's disingenuous
although like, I am concerned about how much ydrasse has seemed disconnected atm, but I think through that her "too many TRs" claim makes sense
You haven't felt disconnected or anything so idg why you were at "too many TRs" here the same way I get how she was at that point

Disconnected because my solve was like hard infinity/skitter/toog and now infinity is town so what is my solve

Pink PT people can confirm my solve was basically "I am townreading everyone but toog/skitter/infinity/ydrasse and now ydrasse is townie

[Dwlee99]

End quote after the /ydrasse

[Ydrasse]

i’ve always been townie you fools

[Gamma Emerald]

It's what came after that really bothers the shit out of me and makes me think it's disingenuous
although like, I am concerned about how much ydrasse has seemed disconnected atm, but I think through that her "too many TRs" claim makes sense
You haven't felt disconnected or anything so idg why you were at "too many TRs" here the same way I get how she was at that point

Disconnected because my solve was like hard infinity/skitter/toog and now infinity is town so what is my solve

Pink PT people can confirm my solve was basically "I am townreading everyone but toog/skitter/infinity/ydrasse and now ydrasse is townie

I don’t think my reaction to a situation like that would be “oop I have too many TRs now”
Did you not have any variation in the strength of your TRs before infinity flipped?

[Dwlee99]

Gamma if all of them seem townie, no matter their relative towniness, do I not have too many townreads

[Gamma Emerald]

Did you not have some TRs you had doubts on already? Those should have been your first to go, if so.

[Gamma Emerald]

I could have made not Peta happen in Pink I'm p sure

This feels out of place (I was reading your ISO to ascertain whether there were any doubts you should have followed up on)
Why did you say this when you did? Why does it matter? What are you claiming you could have done?

[Gamma Emerald]

Pink team has scum in it

This is a thing
Do you still stand by this? I assume you mean that you think all the scum was in the pink team.

[petapan]

i looked through toogeloo's iso, don't know if doing annotation there would actually be useful

my sense is that they're one of those people that tries to project towniness more as scum and their play here is antithetical to that for the most part. i don't know if not being able to keep pace with the game is a possible influence on that. on a readback it actually sort of bugs me that their pink room reads were off how people were reading them. i liked at least the attempt to break the game at the start of this phase though and the motivation in that felt genuine.

i've been momentarily fooled before by the blasé mafia nihilist act, even though it tilts me i'm biased toward seeing it as town even when i shouldn't. however i think the play here leans significantly closer to their townplay

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