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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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LicketyQuickety Survivor
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- Location: Where the moon and the sea meet.
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Almost50 Monkey Business
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I feel a bit too demotivated to actually play, nd there's nothing really interesting in this game yet. Hell, we even failed to out the other two TPRs by page 5. That's bad Town play
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Dwlee99 They/themSurvivorThey/them
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Almost50 Monkey Business
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VOTE: ssbm
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UglyDuck Goon
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Pretty much. Both the vote patterns that could of been taken by that player, and the vote patterns that could of been taken against that player. The latter obviously being more beneficial after a flip (assuming they are town), but yeah... both parts.In post 83, JacksonVirgo wrote:Are you saying that Vigilante shouldn't shoot early-game because it will give us no information based on vote patterns etc?
also the unlikely hood to find skum with a shot Night 1. I should be more specific on that also - I mean like almost exactly Night 1. I still lean bad idea later nights until it is obviously good, but on Night 1 it is simply a gamble.-
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UglyDuck Goon
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what would you like to talk about?In post 84, Ythan wrote:2021 and we're talking about how vigs work.-
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UglyDuck Goon
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Disagree.In post 90, Not_Mafia wrote:
Well then you're anti-townIn post 59, UglyDuck wrote:
I don't do RVS.In post 33, fua wrote:
Alice, Uglyduck, and Jackson are the only three that came in and posted without giving a vote. Could it be that they don’t want anything to be traced back to them?In post 31, AliceK wrote:
That's tempting, but I think we can also wait for him to be replaced out.In post 28, Three wrote:Can we flash wagon Not Mafia?
Not posted yet: Andres, Kyouko, Not_Mafia, and MargotRosa.
VOTE: Uglyduck[/c]
Discuss.-
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UglyDuck Goon
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If they actually answer you I will clarify. Although, it probably won't be needed if they answer you.In post 87, fua wrote:
Would you mind clarifying, please?In post 80, UglyDuck wrote:
VOTE: fuaIn post 75, fua wrote:
Why not?In post 56, Dwlee99 wrote:Even if he isn't real don't shoot him @vig
Not a good idea
If I were a vig I wouldn't shoot NM tonight
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UglyDuck Goon
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1. Wrong. Ducks are beautiful in mating seasonIn post 91, Not_Mafia wrote:
Omg kill it with fire ZZZZZzzzzzzzzZZzzzzzzz, get this MU shit out of here please, I can't take itIn post 72, UglyDuck wrote:
I mean.... that is arbitrary.In post 71, Dwlee99 wrote:I don't want to bog down the thread talking about this but the idea is if you're on, say, 6 - 2, and you lim someone, you enter night 5 - 2 (or 6 - 1), and then you end night on odds (scum kill + vigilante kill) giving you, say 3 - 2, which is an extra town kill than if the vigilante didn't shoot and you entered the next day 4 - 2 (which is still ELO of some form w/ or w/o the vig shot)
The fact is that when you shoot at a point in the game when you do not have a realistic potential to have a good grasp on who could be skum, it is highly more likely that you shoot town than skum. That removes a town vote for all following days that would of otherwise been there. That removes potentially a Town PR. That removes someone that could of been voted for and then used as VCA. That removes a lot.
So like... this set up is what 3 v 10 right? So that means like a "goooood player" day 1 has (and yes this is arbitrary) but let's say like a "3/8" chance of hitting skum (remove self and remove someone that "must be town").
Especially with a Doctor in play for skum. Brings the whole "was I JKd, was that the JK target, was that the mafia skum target" thing into play... which is just gonna out the JK most the time.
Now all of that is from my POV and I got no idea really how people play and meta and all that, so that obviously is a factor I cannot take into consideration.
Then there is the added value of *not* offing any town, then getting to a more limited field and using the power then with more information.
Like, what is the value on Day 2 lets say, of having two town kills at night when we don't know the next day who killed who? Will it be useful down the road? - yep! Will it be more useful than not having that other town player alive? - nope!
VOTE: UglyFuck
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UglyDuck Goon
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UglyDuck Goon
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100% against not eliminating, just to be clear.In post 96, AliceK wrote:I think UglyDuck is Town, he is pushing a controversial opinion (not shooting, not liming as well?) which he should know could open him for attacks. I don't think as scum he would draw attention to himself like that.-
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fua Mafia Scum
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I think you should do it anyway.In post 109, UglyDuck wrote:
If they actually answer you I will clarify. Although, it probably won't be needed if they answer you.In post 87, fua wrote:
Would you mind clarifying, please?In post 80, UglyDuck wrote:
VOTE: fuaIn post 75, fua wrote:
Why not?In post 56, Dwlee99 wrote:Even if he isn't real don't shoot him @vig
Not a good idea
If I were a vig I wouldn't shoot NM tonight
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LicketyQuickety Survivor
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UglyDuck Goon
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Give me a reason to. I am open to it. But I need a reason.In post 113, fua wrote:
I think you should do it anyway.In post 109, UglyDuck wrote:
If they actually answer you I will clarify. Although, it probably won't be needed if they answer you.In post 87, fua wrote:
Would you mind clarifying, please?In post 80, UglyDuck wrote:
VOTE: fuaIn post 75, fua wrote:
Why not?In post 56, Dwlee99 wrote:Even if he isn't real don't shoot him @vig
Not a good idea
If I were a vig I wouldn't shoot NM tonight
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fua Mafia Scum
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Because:In post 115, UglyDuck wrote:
Give me a reason to. I am open to it. But I need a reason.In post 113, fua wrote:
I think you should do it anyway.In post 109, UglyDuck wrote:
If they actually answer you I will clarify. Although, it probably won't be needed if they answer you.In post 87, fua wrote:
Would you mind clarifying, please?In post 80, UglyDuck wrote:
VOTE: fuaIn post 75, fua wrote:
Why not?In post 56, Dwlee99 wrote:Even if he isn't real don't shoot him @vig
Not a good idea
If I were a vig I wouldn't shoot NM tonight
VOTE: ugly duck
1. There's nothing to lose from not doing it.
2. I told you to.
3. My vote is still on you and this isn't helping.-
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Aaron Goon
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JacksonVirgo they/himSurvivor
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AliceK Goon
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Good morning.In post 117, Aaron wrote:*click clack click clack*
*knock knock*
It's Aaron. Yes hello sir. I will begin presenting promptly. Have a great day.
*door shuts*
I am quite occupied as of today but will be here starting tomorrow. Thank you for your patience.-
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AliceK Goon
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fua Mafia Scum
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Activity doesn’t necessarily equate to towniness.In post 121, AliceK wrote:Based on fact that Jackson is active and didn't get prodded or replaced out he is very likely Town.-
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AliceK Goon
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He just doesn't have games where he was active as scum. Maybe he doesn't like playing scum and replace out when he roll it.In post 122, fua wrote:
Activity doesn’t necessarily equate to towniness.In post 121, AliceK wrote:Based on fact that Jackson is active and didn't get prodded or replaced out he is very likely Town.-
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Andresvmb He/HimMoment of BrillianceHe/Him
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