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[Dwlee99]

I don’t have an agenda.

This reminds me of that time T3 was like "pls don't lim me"

[StrangeMatter]

Dwlee how do you feel about your vote history matching up with Gamma’s a lot and Alice suggesting it’s you + Gamma?

I also think this once again betrays commander's goal to have me mislimmed

Since they replaced in it seems like that was their gameplan because they knew I wasn't going to vote for strangematter so their only plan is to have strangematter vote for me

And then Alice dies and we have this post which I think once again betrays they have an agenda not a solve

I don’t have an agenda. I find it weird that you reacted to a question about yourself though and not about camel which is the same slot as Strange Matter. I am pretty sure Redtea is town and scum is in you or StrangeMatter and it’s a matter of which so I am asking questions of what I find scummy about both of you.

I am mostly using this as practice to get my melo game better as I am pretty sure I will be fake hammered and then have to decide which of you is the scum and have to place a real vote first.

You repeatedly saying it’s me doesn’t scare me as I am not scum and know the situation has been manipulated to make me look bad.

It’s a matter of who is actually the scum and casing them so we have a chance at not losing.

Ironically I feel like this post feels kind of manipulative in a way. Also, I just realized in a way it seems like you're trying to prey on my paranoia of Dwlee being scum here.

[redtea]

Here's a question, who do you suspect right now @Gamma Emerald

I have something I want to say.

I kinda feel like it’s you + CS but I also have not done much real work of my own to reach that conclusion so to send that atm doesn’t seem right

This post alone clears dwlee tbh

[StrangeMatter]

Also, what happened to your read on me Commander Shepard?

[Commander Shepard]

Here's a question, who do you suspect right now @Gamma Emerald

I have something I want to say.

I kinda feel like it’s you + CS but I also have not done much real work of my own to reach that conclusion so to send that atm doesn’t seem right

This post alone clears dwlee tbh

Answering this and Strange Matter’s questions here:

I don’t think it does unless the scum bus was not planned before that point.
In other words it clears Dwlee if you believe it’s not Gamma falling intentionally on his sword. So it’s circular.

For Strange Matter, I was pretty certain you were scum but the ending got me paranoid.

I know that scum bussed but it’s a matter of figuring out when they decided to bus.

[Dwlee99]

Here's a question, who do you suspect right now @Gamma Emerald

I have something I want to say.

I kinda feel like it’s you + CS but I also have not done much real work of my own to reach that conclusion so to send that atm doesn’t seem right

have you been reading lol

If it was anyone but Gamma it’s almost a scum claim of him + Strange Matter.

what happened to this

[Dwlee99]

Like you can keep saying you don't have an agenda but when you go from "this is basically a scum claim of him and strange matter (except not because I don't want to lim gamma today)" to "actually gamma could have been falling on his sword for dwlee here" uhh it gives off a different impression

[Commander Shepard]

Dwlee how do you feel about your vote history matching up with Gamma’s a lot and Alice suggesting it’s you + Gamma?

I also think this once again betrays commander's goal to have me mislimmed

Since they replaced in it seems like that was their gameplan because they knew I wasn't going to vote for strangematter so their only plan is to have strangematter vote for me

And then Alice dies and we have this post which I think once again betrays they have an agenda not a solve

I don’t have an agenda. I find it weird that you reacted to a question about yourself though and not about camel which is the same slot as Strange Matter. I am pretty sure Redtea is town and scum is in you or StrangeMatter and it’s a matter of which so I am asking questions of what I find scummy about both of you.

I am mostly using this as practice to get my melo game better as I am pretty sure I will be fake hammered and then have to decide which of you is the scum and have to place a real vote first.

You repeatedly saying it’s me doesn’t scare me as I am not scum and know the situation has been manipulated to make me look bad.

It’s a matter of who is actually the scum and casing them so we have a chance at not losing.

Ironically I feel like this post feels kind of manipulative in a way. Also, I just realized in a way it seems like you're trying to prey on my paranoia of Dwlee being scum here.

This is incorrect. I am addressing what Dwlee is doing.

If they are town then they are increasingly tunnelled to the point they are hurting their own cause. Even if they were right (which they aren’t), a scum player doesn’t say they are scum. So it’s either bravado to push a reaction or bravado to try to demonstrate a sureity. None of the attitude helps to sell that I am scum only that if you’re town you’re tunnel visioned and wrong.

If they are scum it’s a good way to vote park. Their “Gamma is lock scum” argument still makes no sense and I know there’s a scum bussing there. It’s a strategy that I have used commonly when I was under Reaper control. Say the wrong thing enough and someone believes you.

That’s why I want to do the fake voting. I know it’s probably just going to end up with me fake hammered but it gives me one more tool to determine which of Dwlee and Strange Matter are scum.

[Commander Shepard]

Here's a question, who do you suspect right now @Gamma Emerald

I have something I want to say.

I kinda feel like it’s you + CS but I also have not done much real work of my own to reach that conclusion so to send that atm doesn’t seem right

have you been reading lol

If it was anyone but Gamma it’s almost a scum claim of him + Strange Matter.

what happened to this

At that point it was established that Gamma and his selves were not reading the game. If it was a neurotypical person then it would be a scum claim because of certain things. I have known Gamma a while and tend to read him differently and read alters differently.

[Dwlee99]

Complaining about me tunneling is like complaining that rain falls

If you want me to think you're town go and case strange or argue the setup is balanced without redtea's role

But you always go back to me instead no matter how many contradictions you have to make to make it fit

[Commander Shepard]

Like you can keep saying you don't have an agenda but when you go from "this is basically a scum claim of him and strange matter (except not because I don't want to lim gamma today)" to "actually gamma could have been falling on his sword for dwlee here" uhh it gives off a different impression

I don’t care about the impression I am giving off I care about finding who the scum is. Pure and simple. A majority of my posting has been rapid fire what I saw I word vomited. I am taking a step back and reanalyzing things.

[Dwlee99]

Like you can keep saying you don't have an agenda but when you go from "this is basically a scum claim of him and strange matter (except not because I don't want to lim gamma today)" to "actually gamma could have been falling on his sword for dwlee here" uhh it gives off a different impression

I don’t care about the impression I am giving off I care about finding who the scum is. Pure and simple. A majority of my posting has been rapid fire what I saw I word vomited. I am taking a step back and reanalyzing things.

I don't believe you

[Commander Shepard]

Complaining about me tunneling is like complaining that rain falls

If you want me to think you're town go and case strange or argue the setup is balanced without redtea's role

But you always go back to me instead no matter how many contradictions you have to make to make it fit

I will case both you and Strange Matter after work. As I have said no one has countered Redtea’s claim so redtea scum does not make sense here.

[Commander Shepard]

Like you can keep saying you don't have an agenda but when you go from "this is basically a scum claim of him and strange matter (except not because I don't want to lim gamma today)" to "actually gamma could have been falling on his sword for dwlee here" uhh it gives off a different impression

I don’t care about the impression I am giving off I care about finding who the scum is. Pure and simple. A majority of my posting has been rapid fire what I saw I word vomited. I am taking a step back and reanalyzing things.

I don't believe you

And the game isn’t about you believing me, especially if you’re scum. It’s about elimming scum. And to do that I must find them first.

[Dwlee99]

If you're town you need to convince me of that but all of your posts are seething with an agenda to eliminate me so how are you expecting me to react?

[Commander Shepard]

If you're town you need to convince me of that but all of your posts are seething with an agenda to eliminate me so how are you expecting me to react?

1) I don’t have an agenda to eliminate anyone as I haven’t solved the game.
2) If I am town no I don’t. If you’re town I have to convince you Strange Matter is the last scum as in that case he’d have to be. If you’re scum there’s no way I convince you and it’s a false front designed for an emotional response.

3) If you’re town I would be expecting you to cooperate and work together towards either elimming me or getting people to talk about me (especially redtea) to see where they stand and start gathering fake votes on me. Instead it’s more about emotional ploys.

[Commander Shepard]

You’d be wrong in elimming me but the game is about elimming scum not about yelling loudly.

[Commander Shepard]

Here's a question, who do you suspect right now @Gamma Emerald

I have something I want to say.

I kinda feel like it’s you + CS but I also have not done much real work of my own to reach that conclusion so to send that atm doesn’t seem right

This post alone clears dwlee tbh

The dilemma with this post is pretty big.

If Strange Matter is scum he intentionally asked this to his buddy.
If Strange Matter is not scum then Dwlee is and this post is a frame up.

It’s more a matter of trying to get into scum psyche at this point.

[Commander Shepard]

And the more emotional capital I spend defending myself is useless capital and less spoons I have to dive in.

[Dwlee99]

If you're town you need to convince me of that but all of your posts are seething with an agenda to eliminate me so how are you expecting me to react?

1) I don’t have an agenda to eliminate anyone as I haven’t solved the game.
2) If I am town no I don’t. If you’re town I have to convince you Strange Matter is the last scum as in that case he’d have to be. If you’re scum there’s no way I convince you and it’s a false front designed for an emotional response.

3) If you’re town I would be expecting you to cooperate and work together towards either elimming me or getting people to talk about me (especially redtea) to see where they stand and start gathering fake votes on me. Instead it’s more about emotional ploys.

1) is just asking me to take your word when I've demonstrated how you DO have an agenda for eliminating me and have angled for it since your replace-in
2) Convincing me strange is scum is the same as convincing me you're town. You're saying nothing with this
3) I'm giving people space to act because I think it's how they slip up, which is exactly what I think you did reacting to redtea's post like that. If I had responded to redtea in advance talking about you, you would have known the "correct" way to react, but giving you space caused you to completely contradict earlier statements you made about gamma/me as a possible team

[Commander Shepard]

If you're town you need to convince me of that but all of your posts are seething with an agenda to eliminate me so how are you expecting me to react?

1) I don’t have an agenda to eliminate anyone as I haven’t solved the game.
2) If I am town no I don’t. If you’re town I have to convince you Strange Matter is the last scum as in that case he’d have to be. If you’re scum there’s no way I convince you and it’s a false front designed for an emotional response.

3) If you’re town I would be expecting you to cooperate and work together towards either elimming me or getting people to talk about me (especially redtea) to see where they stand and start gathering fake votes on me. Instead it’s more about emotional ploys.

1) is just asking me to take your word when I've demonstrated how you DO have an agenda for eliminating me and have angled for it since your replace-in
2) Convincing me strange is scum is the same as convincing me you're town. You're saying nothing with this
3) I'm giving people space to act because I think it's how they slip up, which is exactly what I think you did reacting to redtea's post like that. If I had responded to redtea in advance talking about you, you would have known the "correct" way to react, but giving you space caused you to completely contradict earlier statements you made about gamma/me as a possible team

1) You have labeled me attempting to sort you an agenda. You haven’t demonstrated anything.
2) If you’re town it is. I am not sold on you town. Only you annoying.
3) There isn’t ever a correct way to respond to almost any post, there’s how you’d respond. People are contradictory all the time as reads evolve. Too much consistency can very much be a scum tell.

[Commander Shepard]

Also sorry to misgender you Strange Matter.

[Dwlee99]

I thought I typed something up last night hm

1) Most of your posts have a clear pivoting towards me idea within them. It's a telegraphed way to justify later wanting to vote me
2)
3) There are ways I expect town to react and ways I expect scum to react. I expect townies to have read changes and not be 100% consistent because otherwise they would literally never change their opinion. But to me 1979 with 1890 (and the other times you said gamma and I can't be aligned) show you're approaching this from an angle of trying to eliminate me instead of evaluate because if you're town I expect you to talk about why your opinion changed instead of immediately shading me without acknowledgement of your earlier posts about it

[Commander Shepard]

I thought I typed something up last night hm

1) Most of your posts have a clear pivoting towards me idea within them. It's a telegraphed way to justify later wanting to vote me
2)
3) There are ways I expect town to react and ways I expect scum to react. I expect townies to have read changes and not be 100% consistent because otherwise they would literally never change their opinion. But to me 1979 with 1890 (and the other times you said gamma and I can't be aligned) show you're approaching this from an angle of trying to eliminate me instead of evaluate because if you're town I expect you to talk about why your opinion changed instead of immediately shading me without acknowledgement of your earlier posts about it

1) I am not pivoting towards or away from anyone.
3) This is correct. My opinions shift overtime. I did have one opinion at that time. Elo however is always an eternal reset button because no matter what we have to get it right. Alice's read was different from mine so I'm trying to do her read due dilligence because sometimes I'm kind of an idiot. Sunday I intend on making a big wall post and then fake voting if no one has because we really need to get this ball rolling and get some kind of discussion started.

[Datisi]

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