Mini Normal 2245: LJITGBSMoD [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 6.01

with 4 votes in play, it takes 3 to make a decision. day 6 ends in (expired on 2021-11-26 21:00:00).

yeet

not voting [4]:

Dwlee99, Commander Shepard, redtea, StrangeMatter

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[Datisi]

prodding Datisi, StrangeMatter, and redtea.

[Dwlee99]

Wall post day let's goo

[StrangeMatter]

Prod received sorry for not posting.

[Commander Shepard]

Known Alignments

• Town -> toxictaipan, val89, norway, marcistar, darby,t3,aliceK
  
• Scum -> Jolyne, Gamma

Assumptions

• Redtea is town based on the claim and Alice not dying.
  
• Scum are in between Dwlee99 and StrangeMatter (fmpov this is a fact, but I'm putting this under assumptions to be clear of the starting premises.)

Day 1 events

Day 1 Facts

• Day 1 lasted until 1197.
  
• Post 405 Val89 confirmed as town
  
• Day 1 flipped toxictaipan as VT. The only locked scum on it is Gamma. The only other possible scum on the wagon is Dwlee. Jolyne and StrangeMatter's slot (and mine if you want to consider me which is well not possible from my pov) were off the wagon.

Joylene scumreads/votes

• Jolyne voted Darby, Alice,val, unvote, Alice, post 853 -> Claimed informed ascetic scum. Already noted as to why this was important.
  
• Jolyne scumread Norway, t3,
  
• 422 shades conf town bad.
  
• Suggests and pushes toxic despite never voting for them.
  
• Hard pushes Alice
  
• Post 853 votes are T3. Tinfoils Gamma as partner to Alice. 1103, doesn't "buy this shit" from Gamma.

Joylene townreads

• Joylne -> marci, darby, t3, complains about Darby and val wagon despite never talking about val, dwlee town, norway, alice, gamma
  
• Post 853 -> redtea, marci.

Gamma notes

• Votes: t3, val, t3, toxic, t3, toxic (not a typo that pattern is duplicated)
  
• Gamma defends Dwlee T3 meta argument scum by exploitable? How? It's either true or it's not. Look at T3 meta tell later. See if accurate. -> Hints towards Dwlee
  
• Gamma POE 671 -> Rule of 3 hints towards Strange Matter

Need to pause here because of stupid council but based on Jolyne intentionally fake claiming something bad without pressure, scum likely had a plan to bus. It's highly unlikely that this was done with a buddy being inactive (based on VCs), so day one initial thoughts are pointing towards Dwlee.

I need to ISO Dwlee and CamelCase D1 and check out T3's meta suggestion to see if it's true.

THIS IS A FAKE VOTE : DWLEE

Then because of the limited size, will probably combine the other days.

[Dwlee99]

T3's meta tell says I'm town this game. I don't believe in meta tells, but if that's what you're looking for, that's what it is. It's one of the reasons I found him so suspicious: because he was going around saying that his read on me was based on a meta tell, and then when pointed out that it made me town, he just ignored it and didn't reevaluate

[Dwlee99]

Random but I just realized everyone alive uses they/them. Nice

[StrangeMatter]

What even is the rule of three?

[Commander Shepard]

Rule of three is when scum make a list containing three or more players at least one is likely to be scum. For a readwall this applies to the bottom three. It’s not 100% that’s why it’s an indicator not absolute.

[Commander Shepard]

I see lots of words I say "okay wall town ???"

Dwlee town knows better than this. I am scared

[Commander Shepard]

VOTE: Toxic
VOTE: T3
VOTE: toxic
VOTE: T3
Me defeating t3's meta

I think T3 caught scum for the wrong reasoning is what the reaction feels like.

[Dwlee99]

I see lots of words I say "okay wall town ???"

Dwlee town knows better than this. I am scared

I feel like you're making a ton of assumptions about my play based on ???

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Toxic
VOTE: T3
VOTE: toxic
VOTE: T3
Me defeating t3's meta

I think T3 caught scum for the wrong reasoning is what the reaction feels like.

Me and t3 have a ton of history and I joke around with him all the time. You're really stretching to make something here

[Datisi]

replacing redtea. if they post before i find someone, they can stay.

[Dwlee99]

Strange can you content please

[StrangeMatter]

Content.

Catching up after my short break from Mafia (Probably should've said V/LA but oh well).

[StrangeMatter]

I thought I typed something up last night hm

1) Most of your posts have a clear pivoting towards me idea within them. It's a telegraphed way to justify later wanting to vote me
2)
3) There are ways I expect town to react and ways I expect scum to react. I expect townies to have read changes and not be 100% consistent because otherwise they would literally never change their opinion. But to me 1979 with 1890 (and the other times you said gamma and I can't be aligned) show you're approaching this from an angle of trying to eliminate me instead of evaluate because if you're town I expect you to talk about why your opinion changed instead of immediately shading me without acknowledgement of your earlier posts about it

1) I am not pivoting towards or away from anyone.
3) This is correct. My opinions shift overtime. I did have one opinion at that time. Elo however is always an eternal reset button because no matter what we have to get it right. Alice's read was different from mine so I'm trying to do her read due dilligence because sometimes I'm kind of an idiot. Sunday I intend on making a big wall post and then fake voting if no one has because we really need to get this ball rolling and get some kind of discussion started.

1. It is a pivot, away from your lockscum on me in the last day, to switching to suspecting Dwlee a lot more. I'm just theorizing your scum play here, but it looks like the kind of play of moving away from the kind of obvious scum play of pushing (what it felt like) an easy low-hanging fruit scum push, onto suspecting either me or Dwlee to have your options open. Technically, we are kind of in ELO, (isn't it still called MELO though?) but there's the Babysitter who can protect (and we'd have another day) or end the game.

[Datisi]

osuka replaces redtea.

[osuka]

what's up nerds

contrary to popular belief, i actually cannot read so i would appreciate it if someone could give me a run-down of what's happened so far

[Dwlee99]

You're pretty much confirmed by role claim, it's between me/strange/commander. I think it's commander. I think strange does as well. Commander is intermittently going through the game and deciding if they want to vote me or strange but has been pivoting towards me

[Commander Shepard]

You're pretty much confirmed by role claim, it's between me/strange/commander. I think it's commander. I think strange does as well. Commander is intermittently going through the game and deciding if they want to vote me or strange but has been pivoting towards me

I agree with everything except the pivoting towards. It’s framing things as if I have an agenda, which I don’t. It’s actually much easier to make a case against Strange Matter but I am more concerned with what is right.

[Commander Shepard]

Pretty much imho today is the end game because a smart scum shoots you and you die along with any protect you do so you protect no one and it’s a repeat today. I would rather elim who you decide Osaka and call that game.

[Dwlee99]

You're pretty much confirmed by role claim, it's between me/strange/commander. I think it's commander. I think strange does as well. Commander is intermittently going through the game and deciding if they want to vote me or strange but has been pivoting towards me

I agree with everything except the pivoting towards. It’s framing things as if I have an agenda, which I don’t. It’s actually much easier to make a case against Strange Matter but I am more concerned with what is right.

But you!scum is forced to scumread me because you know I'm honed into you for your play on wrt slot yesterday

[Dwlee99]

wrt my*

[Dwlee99]

Pedit: like I said I grant that. It’s a gambit because it’s rare

okay but this is incongruent with what you've said to my slot, which is why I think you're just scum here

Like your read on redtea is an easy "oh they're not scum cause why would scum gambit" but your read on me is "they're scum cause this gambit scenario is totally the most likely thing that happened"

gut says anyone sring dwlee at this point is a scumtell

And I think redtea said it well ^^^