Mini 2251: Triplicate! GAME OVER!

[T3]

Hi I don’t entirely understand the setup

[T3]

Prove it
Bold names.

[T3]

Hi I now understand the setup

[T3]

I still understand nothing. Expect no change in that regard.

you vote someone
if they get limped then they get limmed in all 3 games

[T3]

ATTENTION: PLEASE READ CAREFULLY

NOT SURE IF THIS THE OPTIMAL PLAY, BUT I SOLVED GAME 3

SCUM ARE HOUSE/DUNN/RR/RCE (I promise NOT ONE is wrong). I'll even go as far as telling you that RCE is Ben, RR is Alisson, Dunn is in Reginald/Luther/Diego and House is Reginald/Luther/Diego

Note: One of Reginald/Luther/Diego is -obviously- a Mason, and I know "the player" and suspect it's Diego, but regardless.. we need not specify which player holds which anonymous alt. All wee need to do is VOTE OUT SCUM

Pros of my move:

We now have a pool of 4 to eliminate on D1. Since the D1 lim seems to have to be on the same player on all 3 games; we need to make sure they're scum in at least one game

Cons of my move:

Well, I'll be dead in Game 3. Not actually a "con" per se because (a) it gives me more time to concentrate on the other 2 games and (b) EVEN if all 4 Masons are dead the remaining 5 Townies can still win it for us.

Which brings me back to the PROS actually. If we lim outside this pool we are risking Scum potentially winning the game via killing the Masons and thus achieving parity.

town
at least for game 3

[T3]

VOTE: House

Hero vote right hyur.

VOTE: Amy Dunne

Not vibing ya, Ames.

what do you think about a50's post?

[T3]

VOTE: House

Hero vote right hyur.

VOTE: Amy Dunne

Not vibing ya, Ames.

No reaction to A50’s post?

It's A50, not the first time I've seen him pull a hero solve out of his ass on d1.

I hate this post
you're just completely discreditng a50 and not addressing his points
the tone of this also reads like you don't actually think a50 is joking.

[T3]

A50, you should know better than most that the only time I'm afraid of being run up is as town.

My scum games is stronk. It's my villa game that sucks.

Mate, you already are caught. YOU LOGGED INTO YOUR LUTHER ACCOUNT. Before you did it was "Last Visited on 27 Nov".

VOTE: House

While I do strongly think house is scum, the optimal mechanical play is to look for people in your group who re also scum in other games.

[T3]

I belidce there's a 55% chance someone is scum in at least one.

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A50, you should know better than most that the only time I'm afraid of being run up is as town.

My scum games is stronk. It's my villa game that sucks.

Mate, you already are caught. YOU LOGGED INTO YOUR LUTHER ACCOUNT. Before you did it was "Last Visited on 27 Nov".

VOTE: House

While I do strongly think house is scum, the optimal mechanical play is to look for people in your group who re also scum in other games.

If you think I'm scum, vote me. Don't make excuses not to.

+scumpoints

My brain is completely fried trying to deduce what POV this post comes from.

[T3]

Unless the Hargreaves thing is completely made up I'm pretty sure that has to confirm a50 as mason to the mafia, so why isn't he dead?

WIFOM or House is town and scum are afk.

[T3]

Or mod is afk.

[T3]

I'm trying to decide whether meta is amazing or completely useless in this game.

[T3]

So many posts

[T3]

BANG! BANG!

Almost 50 has DIED in the Open Game.

He was: A Cheeky Monkey.

Also

Spoiler:

A Mason

House and rce were both online

[T3]

VOTE: RCEnigma

Simply Perish

VOTE: RCE

I don’t understand.

[T3]

VOTE: RCEnigma

Simply Perish

VOTE: RCE

VOTE: RCE

Why is this a wagon?

Meg: why is rce being voted
Meg in the same post: *votes rce*

[T3]

VOTE: Almost50

If I read the rules correctly, that means I'm still voting House in game 3. I don't want a simul-lim.

Ircher is scum with rce in another game?

[T3]

BANG! BANG!

Radical Rat has DIED in the Open Game.

He was: A Radical Rat.

Also

Spoiler:

A Mafioso

I'm trying to decide whether meta is amazing or completely useless in this game.

How about amazingly useless?

If a player is playing strongly to their town meta that probably means they are town in all games.

[T3]

VOTE: Radical Rat

This is just blatantly anti-town.

[T3]

VOTE: RCEnigma
VOTE: House

Have I misread the rules?
I thought you had one vote that applies across all the games?

[T3]

BANG! BANG!

Almost 50 has DIED in the Open Game.

He was: A Cheeky Monkey.

Also

Spoiler:

A Mason

House and rce were both online

RCE flipped town in game 3, so I don’t understand your point.

Both RR and House were scum in 3.

I haven't caught up yet
UNVOTE: both

[T3]

Radical Rat is at E-2 in games A and B

I don't understand why we're limping radical rat in games 1 and 2/

[T3]

*typo, limming

[T3]

Me and RCE

I gotta head to sleep hopefully scum shoot themselves to death before I return

Are you drunk?? WHERE did I say that you were Scum in game 3?

Potential TMI?

[T3]

(from meg)

[T3]

*Sigh*

So TWO scums were smart enough not to make that mistake. I guess I should retire while I'm ahead, huh?

Later..

didn't you say that Dunn slipped?

[T3]

I bet t3 rolled scum in all of the games

As I said before, by now, I think that T3 is town in at least 2/3 of the games, if not all three.
You are also on that list of being town in at least 2/3 if not all three.

I believe Lady Chloe/Taly and Almost50 to be town in all three.

Ircher I'm

fairly

sure is scum in at least one--if this were him as town in all three, I'd expect it to be obvious from his play. It's not.

Amy Dunne is a gigantic null, and possible scum in at least one scumgame, but not to the same confidence as Ircher.

Hello

This is scum in at least 1/3 games and might even be 2/3--was my vote for a damn good reason. This is also NOT MegAzumarill as town here.

Ego

Cheeky might be scum in at least one game but it's hard to say for sure--I rate her at about Amy Dunne levels of gigantic null, in that I have other scumreads that are stronger (Ircher, MegAzumarill, and RCEnigma are all on the top of that list), so not a top priority, but not a town-in-all-three-games read. There is an asterisk to CheekyTeeky tho, but I don't want to elaborate right now.

I still understand nothing. Expect no change in that regard.

I genuinely don't think that RCEnigma is town in all three games. He's definitely scum in at least one, maybe even two. If I wasn't voting MegAzumarill, I'd be voting RCE.

Reading more of Amy Dunne's posts, I do get the impression of "scum in at least one game", but not to the extent of Ircher, MegAzumarill, and RCEnigma.

So, across all three games, my page two* readslist looks something like:

*(not truly page two as this does take some of my knowledge from future pages into account while I was phoneposting)

Almost50
Lady Chloe

Dwlee99
T3

CheekyTeeky (yes this is null, I only have four townreads, but, well, given the game's mechanics, I legit think that we probably have ~6-8 scum so like, do the math; I am town in all and if there's 8 players who're scum in at least one game, that leaves only 4 other players who'd be town in all games, so in the case of this game, ~4 townreads is actually

precisely

the spot I

want

to be at)

Dunnstral
Amy Dunne
Radical Rat
House

Ircher
RCEnigma
MegAzumarill

Approximately.

Mastina feels weird. It's like her posts don't have much depth.

[T3]

Radical Rat is at E-2 in games A and B

I don't understand why we're limping radical rat in games 1 and 2/

I don't think we have much choice. To my understanding, we can only vote in Game 1 and 2 who is already dead in Game 3.

okay so I really need to read the rules more carefully then

[T3]

VOTE: meg in game 3

[T3]

House has DIED in the Open Game.
He was:
A Mafioso

Well that updates my readslist quite nicely as I am now sure House is town in both the remaining games!

House
Almost50
Lady Chloe

Dwlee99
T3

CheekyTeeky (yes this is null, I only have five townreads, but, well, given the game's mechanics, I legit think that we probably have ~6-8 scum so like, do the math; I am town in all and if there's 7 players who're scum in at least one game, that leaves only 5 other players who'd be town in all games, so in the case of this game, ~4-5 townreads is actually precisely the spot I want to be at)
Radical Rat (null in both other games)

Dunnstral

Amy Dunne

Ircher
RCEnigma
MegAzumarill

Updated readslist.

Why is House 100% town in both of the other games and not rr?

[T3]

RCEnigma has DIED in the Open Game. He was: Vanilla Town

Okay so I think that means formatting-wise, I gotta do this:
VOTE: MegAzumarill (for game C)
VOTE: RCEnigma (for A/B)

As I said--not a chance in hell RCE is town in all three games. He's scum in AT LEAST one game, maybe two. This is NOT RCE as town in all three games.

from the 2 games I've played with RCE I think I may have some kind of meta tell on him

[T3]

I’d seriously like to know why House? The fact the he tops Mastina’s list and he is higher than me, makes me wonder if how much stock I should put into any of Mastina’s reads unless I’m mindmelding with them myself.

mastina tends to have <rand reads I believe
I'm not sure though because of the whole triplicate mechanic

[T3]

VOTE: House

Hero vote right hyur.

VOTE: Amy Dunne

Not vibing ya, Ames.

No reaction to A50’s post?

It's A50, not the first time I've seen him pull a hero solve out of his ass on d1.

I hate this post
you're just completely discreditng a50 and not addressing his points
the tone of this also reads like you don't actually think a50 is joking.

I don't think I've ever seen T3 explain himself before and unprompted at that. Not sure what that means just yet.

It means that I explained myself unprompted

[T3]

T3 hasn't used meta in at least half of his posts so I'm pretty sure he's an alt being played by someone else and the real t3 is stuck in the mason thread.

Not really, I've played 1 game with scum!t3 and 1 game with town!t3. So like my metric for him is mostly activity and wim but I wouldn't consider either accurate.

On average, town me has much lower WIM.
It was also a very high post count game and I was very demotivated to read.

[T3]

VOTE: House

Burn em!

UNVOTE:

Meg was super onboard with limming House.

If I were scum I would be jumping up and down to bus House.

[T3]

I'm like 95% sure RCE is town in all of his games.

[T3]

BANG! BANG!

MegAzumarill has DIED in the Open Game.

They were: Quite a Bit Scarier than a Regular Azumarill.

Also

Spoiler:

A Mafioso

epic

[T3]

I won't out my shot because I don't want

him

to be conftown obviously.

so you shot within me Dunn and ircher

[T3]

T3 and I share the same set of eyes. What does that say about us?

we're coming from the same town pov

[T3]

What is there to explain? The list is ordered but the ordering is not important. What matters is going down it.

yeah but it's possible that Chloe is scum in g3, in which case we lose

[T3]

Now that I am dead in game C i will claim in the other two
I am a

Bulletproof Multitasking Compulsive Combined Vigilante-Voyuerizer Jailkeeper Jester

In Game B

In game A I am a

Town Simple Roleblocker.

I am 100% serious.

What motivated you to claim now?

[T3]

Mega's claim there is very scummy for both games if that's what you're basing this off of

I think Meg implied that their claim was not serious

[T3]

Nah I don't think it's Mastina tbh

why

[T3]

to confirm: he dies in game 3 and only game 3?

[T3]

*Sigh*

So TWO scums were smart enough not to make that mistake. I guess I should retire while I'm ahead, huh?

Later..

didn't you say that Dunn slipped?

There seems to be a lot of confusion about what I said about Dunn.

I knew two alts were not used up to a certain point. I assumed Dunn was one because he had not posted in the main thread either. I then semi-retracted that because I realized one of the Masons also didn't use their alt account.

I did not say Dunn "slipped" nor did I say he could be Mason. (How the hell would he be a Mason and I'm FoS'ing him?)

My current top suspect in game 3 is mastina. I don't have a vote on said game though. I can't control what the living players in that game do. All I can do is try to use "my best guess" on who the 2 remaining scum are based on how everything went and my own estimation of the motives behind everything that has been said.

ah that makes sense

[T3]

VOTE: dunn
night

[T3]

*ight
not night

[T3]

Nah I don't think it's Mastina tbh

why

I just think she wouldn't claim VT as scum, that's silly.

yeah I dislike this reasoning

[T3]

meg claimed bulletproof in game 2?

[T3]

um.

meg said it was a joke claim.

[T3]

I agree with your last statement.

[T3]

They didn't even claim to be town in Game B so the rush to counterclaim is weird

I could still see town mastina doing it.

[T3]

Re:627 your posts felt oddly short.

[T3]

VOTE: ircher
wheeeeeee

[T3]

wait let's also vote meg in game 2

[T3]

VOTE: meg
I don't know whether my vote got reset because I voted Dunn.

[T3]

I am once again plighted by my own illusions.

Yet I still claim to be a shepherd.

VOTE: Ircher
VOTE: Dunnstral

@mod, can we get an updated VC please?

Sorry, I passed out early last night and have spent the morning sick.

There has been a hammer on Dunn in the open

Ircher->Chloe->Cheeky->Dwlee->T3

Dunn flips VT.

Votes reset for game three. I’ll edit this into a proper VC format as soon as I am able, but it may be a few hours.

VOTE: Ircher

VOTE: ircher
wheeeeeee

VOTE: Ircher
VOTE: Meg

Jsyk, if you can tell people to “fuck off” for from ypov for apparently shading you? then I can return the favor for this bs read for absolutely no reason whatsoever. You don’t have any more right to be outraged fmpov than I do.

Actually I do--

I don't tell players who've never played with me to fuck off when they scumread me.

After all, they haven't played with me before, they lack the baseline for me.

Telling people to fuck off is reserved for those who

have

played with me--because they

should

fucking know better.

As far as I know, I lack experience with you--and thus, you don't have the same ability to tell me this because I lack the baseline for you.

Mastina I'd love you to explain what made you Sr me in game B

Well basically your play screams scum in 2/3 games through and through and has since the beginning and still does.

And your way of handling game B makes it very strongly look like scum in game #2.

A

Also if you think there's some truth to my claims why would you try to lim a PR.

It's a bit unfortunate, but if the cost of a dead scum D1 in game #2 is the loss of a very weak situational PR in game #1, I'll take the trade. Ideally you don't want to sacrifice one towngame for the sake of another towngame, but on D1, we're probably going to

have

to--unless there's a player scum in both games 1 AND 2 (which is doubtful), we can't eliminate scum in one without eliminating town in another.

It'll obviously be different on D2 onward, but as far as I can tell, there's no way with the vote thresholds identical to eliminate in game one without eliminating in game two and vice versa. So we will ALWAYS lose a town in ONE game in order to kill a scum the other on D1.

Eliminating scum D1 in a mini theme usually beats eliminating scum D1 in a mini Normal to me, so...

VOTE: Ircher
VOTE: MegAzumarill
(tempted to leave the Ircher vote on all three honestly)

hammer +1

[T3]

VOTE: mastina
VOTE: meg
k
I don't suspect mastina that much but sure

[T3]

VOTE: meg
VOTE: madtina

[T3]

I could see that.

[T3]

What if mastina flips town?

[T3]

Also, why is “demon lord” voting Meg?

[T3]

Eliminate down the following list: Dunnstral --> mastina --> T3 --> Ircher --> Dwlee99 --> Amy --> Cheeky --> Chloe. Obviously, we skip limming the masons, but we do so in a careful manner so that scum don't abuse this.

Cheeky hardclaimed mason. It’s definitely not me and Dwelee opposing your lim makes me think probably not him? T3 seems townie. If it turns out to be Chloe I will cry.

Like because of the RR thing, it’s hard to think it’s not Mastina but someone on this list is very clearly bamboozling me but have no idea whom.

I don’t see why Cheeky fakeclaims mason here.

Agreed.
I guess Cheeky could have been trying to bait the shot?

[T3]

Eliminate down the following list: Dunnstral --> mastina --> T3 --> Ircher --> Dwlee99 --> Amy --> Cheeky --> Chloe. Obviously, we skip limming the masons, but we do so in a careful manner so that scum don't abuse this.

Cheeky hardclaimed mason. It’s definitely not me and Dwelee opposing your lim makes me think probably not him? T3 seems townie. If it turns out to be Chloe I will cry.

Like because of the RR thing, it’s hard to think it’s not Mastina but someone on this list is very clearly bamboozling me but have no idea whom.

I don’t see why Cheeky fakeclaims mason here.

Agreed.
I guess Cheeky could have been trying to bait the shot?

So, if we take Cheeky, me and you off this list, that leaves Dwelee who tried to stop Ircher lim, so unlikely, then could Chloe possibly be our deep wolf?

I think Mastina seems to be the most likely here both by PoE + RR slip unless I’m wrong somewhere but Chloe’s voting has been good.

I believe Cheeky isn’t scum here and I am obviously not. Problem is everyone on this list has reasons to be town. I know I am and strongly believe Cheeky is too.

Yeah, I think it's T3. he hasbn't voted before I, RR, House & RCE flipped. (Yet he UNVOTED while he wasn't even voting). He went under the radar for too long and he called me Town in game 3 yet didn't bother vote either House or RR.

He did vote Meg, but that was a formality at that point.

I'm pretty sure I was afk for most of that time.

[T3]

*didn't mean to quote 679

[T3]

I'd rather T3. Fits the profile (of not shooting Cheeky at the very least)

Also I voted Meg because they scum slipped

[T3]

I was completely afk from page 7 to page 17. That's NI.

[T3]

*NAI

[T3]

I made post 158 on page 7 and at 9:35 PM. I then fell asleep. I woke up 8.5 hours later. I went to school. I then posted on page 17 at 9:29 AM, after my Calc class ended.
RR, House, and RCE all died in that 12 hours period.

[T3]

I also find it scummy that Chloe is calling Amy scum after Amy says that Chloe is a potential deep wolf.
pedit: oof

[T3]

Yeah, I think it's T3. he hasbn't voted before I, RR, House & RCE flipped. (Yet he UNVOTED while he wasn't even voting). He went under the radar for too long and he called me Town in game 3 yet didn't bother vote either House or RR.

He did vote Meg, but that was a formality at that point.

VOTE: T3

hi, I didn't vote RR House or RCE because I was asleep and then at school

[T3]

VOTE: meg in game 3

Me and RCE

I gotta head to sleep hopefully scum shoot themselves to death before I return

Are you drunk?? WHERE did I say that you were Scum in game 3?

Potential TMI?

also this

[T3]

A50, you should know better than most that the only time I'm afraid of being run up is as town.

My scum games is stronk. It's my villa game that sucks.

Mate, you already are caught. YOU LOGGED INTO YOUR LUTHER ACCOUNT. Before you did it was "Last Visited on 27 Nov".

VOTE: House

While I do strongly think house is scum, the optimal mechanical play is to look for people in your group who re also scum in other games.

[T3]

BANG! BANG!

Almost 50 has DIED in the Open Game.

He was: A Cheeky Monkey.

Also

Spoiler:

A Mason

House and rce were both online

RCE flipped town in game 3, so I don’t understand your point.

Both RR and House were scum in 3.

I haven't caught up yet
UNVOTE: both

there's also this
I don't remember what post this was about but I'm pretty sure that I thought that I'd voted House earlier.

[T3]

I was town.

[T3]

the case against me is kind of nai

[T3]

I think Amy is scum

[T3]

VOTE: Amy
I don't think I'm voting Amy

[T3]

also jingle is online and there haven't been shots

[T3]

okay, so who do you want to vote instead?
other than me

[T3]

I’ve been hammered.
I’m also town and would appreciate wit if you would vote Amy before we lose.

[T3]

Dwlee, maybe.

[T3]

I want Amy dead after me.

[T3]

LOL I WASNT HAMMERED

[T3]

I don’t like to say I townslipped
But I townslipped hard

[T3]

I’m kind of here

[T3]

VOTE: Dwelee

Chloe not dying probably points to it being Mastina.

Um

[T3]

Oh my god no
Just vote Amy

[T3]

Are you thinking it?

[T3]

Im talking to amy

[T3]

UNVOTE: amy
IM SO CONFUSED

[T3]

I was at e1, now I’m not.

[T3]

VOTE: dwlee

[T3]

I THINK THIS IS WHERE WE GO

[T3]

@T3: Why Dwlee over mastina?

don't you know?

[T3]

don't answer that

[T3]

a50 why do you scumread me

[T3]

I don't think that was hammer

[T3]

Hammer it t3

my head is going to explode

[T3]

because t3 thinks you're scum

[T3]

What happened to limming T3? There never was a hammer.

1. i kinda sorta townslipped
2. dwlee appeared and started pushing mastina

[T3]

VOTE: MASTINA
I really want to vote dwlee though

[T3]

VOTE: dwlee

[T3]

okay time for calc homework

[T3]

was that the 4th vote? It takes 4 to hammer.

Yes.

[T3]

Now that mastina's out of the way, can you all do T3 for my sake?

aren't there 3 masons alive though

[T3]

OKAY SO

[T3]

WAS IT T3

NO IT WASN'T

[T3]

OH MY GOD DID WE ACTUALLY LOSE THIS AFTER ALL THAT

[T3]

WE GOT 3 SCUM
AND STILL LOST

[T3]

Bang Bang

CheekyTeeky has died.

Spoiler:

She was a mason.

Bang Bang

Lady Chloe has died.

Spoiler:

She was a mason

O SHIT

[T3]

Bang Bang. A Win Condition has been achieved.


I should really go do something productive.

Spoiler:

Just kidding, T3 has died. The town of the Open Setup has won!

Congrats!

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[T3]

YOU WERE OBVIOUSLY DIEGO BUT THEN YOU CLAIMED VT AND I GOT SO PARANOID

[T3]

I KNEW BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T END YOUR SENTENCES WITH PERIODS

[T3]

I KNEW BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T END YOUR SENTENCES WITH PERIODS

BRUH

AND YOU STILL SHOT AMY

Should have voted you when someone asked if I was on mushrooms when saying I thought you were a mason

I was five

[T3]

I also didn't think that the Amy/Chloe stuff could have possibly been mason theater
and I knew you were Diego
but then you claimed vt
you're weren't even that convincing
oh yeah and I also thought you might be mason because a50 had no reason to hard townread you
I had the right guess at 2:21 pm and pmed it to the mod
but my brain just thought that because you claimed vt you were confirmed vt

[T3]

not like confirmed vt
but really unlikely vt

[T3]

What happened Game 3? Give me tLDr

We got down to 5 alive with me, dwlee, a50, Amy, you, and cheeky.
I shot you, cheeky, and Amy.

[T3]

Who did T3 try to shoot?

Obviously AMY.

I shot Amy kekke

Also I'd it wasn't obvious I'm not seriously claiming in either remaining game

Wait I fooled not one but two scums? I had better get a scummie nom for this.

dwlee should get a scummie nom tbh

[T3]

now then, back to the other games
I have to win both of these for this game to feel like a success
VOTE: meg

[T3]

it's gonna be really hard for me to pull of scum wins in both the normal and the theme though
/j

[T3]

dwlee now you're obligated to post in our chess game

[T3]

VOTE: mastina

[T3]

VOTE: mega

[T3]

I hope I’m not mislimmed for doing nothing but naked voting and not solving the game (at least now that you’ve seen my scum game)

[T3]

Top townread? Definitely RCE.

[T3]

I’d say my sudden shift in play style is definitely towny.

[T3]

I do like the way you’re trying to sort me.

[T3]

F

[T3]

That's annoying.

[T3]

I didn't think Meg was 3P.

[T3]

I’m completely and entirely lost.

[T3]

I’m completely and entirely lost.

Nothing confusing is happening right now

Yep

[T3]

I’m completely and entirely lost.

Nothing confusing is happening right now

Yep

So what are you lost about?

I'm just having a hard time interacting with the thread.

[T3]

RCEnigma has died in the Mini Normal! He was

Spoiler:

Town Jailkeeper.

Vote Count Normal.2.00

Radical Rat (E-6):

Dunnstral (E-6):

Ircher (E-6):

mastina (E-6):

Dwlee99 (E-6):

Amy Dunne (E-6):

T3 (E-6):

House (E-6):

Almost50 (E-6):

CheekyTeeky (E-6):

Lady Chloe (E-6):

No Elim (0):

Not Voting (11):

With 11 alive, it takes

6

to murder/death/kill or

6

to choose not to.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-12-19 06:00:00).

Mini Theme

Night One Continues! All actions are due by: (expired on 2021-12-05 18:00:00)!

I'm not sure why RCE would die.
I didn't get the sense that he was widely tr'ed, but I wasn't really present in the thread so I wouldn't know.

[T3]

Yo.
PhoNeposting from work (well, technically, work begins an hour from now, but I am in my car AT work, so.) To say:

With this being the only game that I am alive in, I could use a cheap, but effective, method of basically clearing myself.
It's ALMOST against site rules, but is gray enough that I can get away with it for two reasons:
1: I'm not taking screenshots of my alibi, and:
2: Even if I did, there's theoretical workarounds.

Basically:
I deliberately haven't logged into mafiascum since before the night began.
Proof of this can be found in my profile, mastina.
It'll update about half an hour from now to show now as my last visit, but RIGHT NOW, it should show my last visit as being pre Meg hammer.

Obviously, this doesn't hard clear me.
I could have talked to my scumbuddies about our plan before the night, and Jingle even accepts early submission of night actions.
My scumbuddies could submit night actions entirely without my input.
Or, for game two, I could talk to and submit night actions right now in spite of how infuriatingly difficult that'd be on my glitchy ass phone. (There's either 6 or 8 hours until the game two deadline. I wanted to make this post circa 5 minutes before deadline, but I obviously might be busy with work at the time, so I sadly must weaken my own alibi by posting said 6-8 hours earlier.)

It's a bit of a cheap strategy, I admit, but I am NOT letting myself be mislimmed, so literally any (technically legal) trick I can use, I will.

Honestly, I think this probably comes from town mastina. It seems like a weird trick for scum to pull.

[T3]

You know you can hide active status right

Of courcs I know.

If I wanted to hide activity, I would.

Butyv why the fuck would I want to?

I WANT peoplebto know
TheEXACT time I am online and aru
Iound.

Specific ally son thati don't get bulls,hitu uaccusations against me.e s
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People have accused me of lurking in a scumputh before. A lack of being online makes such accusations farb less credible.

[insert t3 openly pr speculating inthread]

[T3]

T3 is always scummy and I want to pressure him to see how he responds cause I'm trying to learn how to read him

alright then

[T3]

well currently i've been completely ignoring the pressure

[T3]

Mastina vote Dwlee, don't engage in their antics.

Do you not think T3 should be wagoned?

No, I think they're only scum in one game since they have reverted closers to their town meta since their scum flip. Do you have reason to suspect them?

Mastina vote Dwlee, don't engage in their antics.

Do you not think T3 should be wagoned?

No, I think they're only scum in one game since they have reverted closers to their town meta since their scum flip. Do you have reason to suspect them?

This is so bad

T3 has hardly even posted since his game 3 flip

my town meta has recently been low posting

[T3]

Mastina vote Dwlee, don't engage in their antics.

Do you not think T3 should be wagoned?

No, I think they're only scum in one game since they have reverted closers to their town meta since their scum flip. Do you have reason to suspect them?

Mastina vote Dwlee, don't engage in their antics.

Do you not think T3 should be wagoned?

No, I think they're only scum in one game since they have reverted closers to their town meta since their scum flip. Do you have reason to suspect them?

This is so bad

T3 has hardly even posted since his game 3 flip

my town meta has recently been low posting

And since you're aware of that, it means nothing, as you could just intentionally post less as scum...

i mean sure i could
also now that i think about it, when i died in g3 i had a lot of school stuff going on at the same time

[T3]

I’m completely and entirely lost.

Nothing confusing is happening right now

Yep

So what are you lost about?

I'm just having a hard time interacting with the thread.

Any particular reason?

I don't know. Possibly due to rl stuff.

[T3]

Possibly also just the way I approach the game as town.

[T3]

mastina has some strange logic at times.

Yes but her logic sometimes works to set up a game state that is good for town.

[T3]

Vote Count Mini Theme.1.01

MegAzumarill (E-0):

Demon Lord

, House, mastina, CheekyTeeky, T3, Radical Rat, Dwlee99, HAMMER!

Radical Rat (E-4):

Almost50, Ircher, Amy Dunne,

Dunnstral (E-6):

RCEnigma,

Ircher (E-6):

MegAzumarill,

mastina (E-7):

Dwlee99 (E-7):

Amy Dunne (E-7):

T3 (E-7):

House (E-7):

RCEnigma (E-7):

Almost50 (E-7):

CheekyTeeky (E-7):

Lady Chloe (E-7):

No Elim (0):

Not Voting (2):

Dunnstral, Lady Chloe,

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to murder/death/kill or

7

to choose not to.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-12-10 22:00:00).

So I'm a wagon analyzer (what I've called it) and my result was that the wagon had 4 alignment differences between voters on MegA. I'm just trying to confirm if it includes demon lord, but that's a pretty colourful wagon ^.^

To get an even number, and it starts on scum then the hammerer also has to be scum. OR start with town, two scum in between, hammer town.

[T3]

Wtf where did my post go

[T3]

Wtf where did my post go

I think the FBI took it into custody pending an emergency trial. That or it tested positive for Covid-19 and had to be quarantined.

I had a big mech post

[T3]

That would only work in the other direction, and it would require Meg to be alive in Game 1. The no kill means we don't have anyone alive in 1 that isn't in 2, which is what we would need to single vote the same way we did with Game 3.

I think the only way to avoid it would be to eliminate someone else for Game 1, then vote Dwlee during the night. In which case, I think I'd like to do House still. Triple scum is highly improbable, but I do think he's scum in at least one game still, so either he flips scum and is most likely town in 2, or flips town and is a viable scum candidate in 2. And we can use that to help work through the rest of the wagon analysis.

Why House? I’m thinking either T3 tmi’d RCE town or it was a frame like Chloe said.

If so it’s hard to tell because both Dunn and Dwelee voted him.

No, I didn't TMI RCE as town.

[T3]

T3 please find the missing post.

Assuming no 3p then:
There are 2 scum on wagon, and they did not vote consecutively, nor did they vote first or last.
There are 3 scum on wagon. Two of them voted consecutively, none of them voted first or last.
There are 3 scum on wagon. Two of them voted first and last, the other one voted non consecutively.

[T3]

I also think Dunn might be town.

[T3]

Aren't all the roles independent of game?
So Dwlee is lying?

[T3]

Demon Lord | House | mastina | CheekyTeeky | T3 | Radical Rat | Dwlee99
The | are where all the possible breaks could have occurred.
If we assumed Cheeky and I are town then we get
Demon Lord | House | mastina | CheekyTeeky - town T3 - town | Radical Rat | Dwlee99
That's 5 possible breaks, and in 4 of those a break occurred. This means there must have been a break between either Cheeky and mastina or me and Radical Rat.
So I think that ASSUMING Cheeky and I are town, there is a confirmed mafia in mastina/radical rat.
VOTE: radical rat

[T3]

Aren't all the roles independent of game?
So Dwlee is lying?

Why would you think that? Meg flipped tracker in 1 and vt in 2, so clearly not independent.

*not independent
I mean that roles from one game don't interact with the other games.

[T3]

I also think Dunn might be town.

Why?

I'll elaborate later.

[T3]

I am confused

[T3]

VOTE: dwlee

[T3]

Kill delee

[T3]

Let’s not vote Dunn in A.
Thanks.

[T3]

House town

[T3]

I don’t think scum him would completely lurk

[T3]

@Everybody/anybody

: Regarding the Normal game..

[T3]

oops
meant to reply with "dunn town"

[T3]

VOTE: ircher
bap

[T3]

Both T3 and Dwlee are scum in game 2.

no

[T3]

Double Flip!

Sorting through the paperwork on my desk today I got rid of a bunch of stuff I didn't need any more. Birth Certificates, Pay Stubs, Tax Forms, the deed to my house, and Ircher.

He was:

Spoiler:

Welcome, Ircher to Triplicate Mafia: Carbon Paper. A love letter to Bureaucracy at its finest.

You are

Form 1040

, aligned with the Paperwork faction.

You may fill the game thread with many glorious words which contain the information needed to deduce the logic and reasoning behind the intentions of the other players in this game. All of the forms in this game have this power. You may also vote to retire some of the forms from use. Sadly, this destruction of forms is necessary, as there are petitions hidden amongst the forms that are trying to simplify the bureaucratic process, allowing the average individual to access the inner workings of their representation without hours of frustration and pain. Frankly, this cannot stand.

You win when all enemies of Paperwork have been eliminated and at least one Form is still alive.

Mastina now pushed two town wagons. Whatever she is, it’s gamethrowing to listen to her. :/

It is
But also gamestate

[T3]

Somehow I completely overlooked the possibility that scum could lolhammer before we all switched votes.... On the bright side, Game 2 now has two confirmed scum in it, but I have no idea how to approach it without getting us even more fucked in Game 1... I am open to suggestions on that front.

Yeah, we’re supposed to only hammer A, then we could have speed limmed Dwelee.

Oh well.

[T3]

because i'm an idiot who doesn't understand the mech.

[T3]

(btw side-note, unrelated to current conversation: while Dwlee has "meta bad", if T3 doesn't realize that this is my towngame and I'm not lying about my 3p status, it's a scumclaim from him since he uses meta heavily and should be able to tell that this is basically my towngame in all three games.

Dunnstral has played with me before and also should know that this is my towngame. Not to the same extent as T3 because Dunnstral can on occasion be more like Dumbstral (sorry can't resist the pun, hope you don't take too much offense, Dunn) and be a dummy and not take past experience into account when reading me, but he still HAS extensive history with me, enough to have a good grasp on my towngame so

should

know that this is it.

House hasn't seen my scumgame unlike T3 and Dunnstral who have, so he might not know what I'm capable of as scum, but he should still have a decent idea because I've described my scumgame to him in multiple games where I was town--being town in those games, he should then know that my description of my scumgames in said games was honest and thus he should know that this not only looks like my prior towngames with him, but also that this is not anything remotely matching my description of my scumgame.

If any of them argue that I am groupscum, it's a scumclaim from them. Dwlee shouldn't argue I'm scum in game 1 but 'meta bad' means that they aren't as scumclaiming as House/T3/Dunnstral would be if they did; RR lacks the experience with me to know my towngame/scumgame intimately so he could argue it and not be scumclaiming.

But T3 not saying I'm town would 100% be a scumclaim; Dunnstral not saying I'm town would indicate him being scum; House saying I'm groupscum would be a scum indicator for him.)

I think you’re town.5

[T3]

vla until the 13th

[T3]

*wait*
Does the voting analyzer thing apply to game 1 as well?

[T3]

Okay then

[T3]

Wait so now that house is flipped it’s night in game 1?

[T3]

why tf are we clearing dwlee
just because he hardclaimed town doesn't make him town?

[T3]

^in the normal
like am i completely misunderstanding what's going on?

[T3]

i saw people saying dwlee is clear in g1 and i was curious

[T3]

VOTE: dwlee
alright fine
i still don't understand why dwlee is conftown in 1

[T3]

i still don't see why that automatically makes him town in a though....
and i thimk that from a mech standpoint his role is impossible

[T3]

VOTE: dwlee
alright fine
i still don't understand why dwlee is conftown in 1

We’re I think at elo in A, why are you so eager to kill him in A when he claimed town in A?

i don't necessarily want to kill him in a
i want to sort him in a :dry:

[T3]

forgot to mention that chloe is town in a

[T3]

I have reason to believe dunn is town in a

[T3]

i really want to flip dwlee in the theme soon

[T3]

because i feel like it *could* tell us ai info about his alignment in a

[T3]

dwlee is at e1, please hammer

[T3]

neeeeeeever mind.
mastina hammered dwlee.

[T3]

I still think Cheeky has decent odds of flipping mafia in Game A.

T3 scumclaimed in B with that hammer on Ircher.

no.

[T3]

Hi there

So what is the best way to not feel completely lost in this game?

your slot is 95% town by meta

[T3]

forgot to mention that chloe is town in a

Why in A? How is her play different in B?

why do i get asked so many questions
i'll elaborate later

[T3]

I hammered because I made a dumb mistake.

[T3]

Radical Rat: town
mastina: town
Dwlee99: scumish
Dunnstral: scumish
Titus: town
Lady Chloe: townish
T3: scumish

Here's where I'm at atp. Least confident in Dwlee scum.

yikes

[T3]

Mastina has been killed in the normal game.

She was:

Spoiler:

VT

Vote Count Normal.4.00

T3 (E-4):

Dunnstral (E-4):

Dwlee99 (E-4):

Radical Rat (E-4):

CheekyTeeky (E-4):

Titus (E-4):

Lady Chloe (E-4):

No Elim (0):

Not Voting (7):

T3, Dunnstral, Dwlee99, Radical Rat, CheekyTeeky, Titus, Lady Chloe

With 7 alive, it takes

4

to murder/death/kill or

4

to choose not to.

The deadline for Day 4 is in (expired on 2021-12-27 03:00:00).

Theme Game

It is now Night 3 in the Theme Game. Night 3 will last until (expired on 2021-12-14 01:00:00).

NO ONE VOTE YET

[T3]

i know something in the normal. i'm waiting for something from the mod and then i'll say it

[T3]

actually nah there's no point in me not giving the bare minimum of what's happening
i am an investigative with soft innos on dunn and chloe

[T3]

for some reason i never received my result for n3
i get "no result" if my action failed but there was never any pm from the mod
i won't say who i checked last night until i get it

[T3]

"soft innos"
i don't know that dunn and chloe are town for a fact, but my results imply that

[T3]

T3 we both know you're good at fake claiming. You need to out the nature of your investigation asap

Let’s not vote Dunn in A.
Thanks.

forgot to mention that chloe is town in a

I have reason to believe dunn is town in a

i think these crumbs should suffice for now

[T3]

T3 we both know you're good at fake claiming. You need to out the nature of your investigation asap

stop fishing.

[T3]

Y'all I'm gonna preempt whatever T3 is gonna say with: DO NOT QUICKLY REACT TO ANYTHING HE SAYS

He is extremely skilled at fake claims

Has T3 fake claimed before in this game? He can do well or bungle them. I've seen both.

I am not going to elaborate on my claim until the mod PMs me the result.

I as scum tried to pull a stunt in Yggdrasil where I pretended that there was a mod error where the mod didn't PM me my role actions. That game, I was fakeclaiming. This game I am not.

[T3]

I am a Town Rolecop Finder in Game A.

Dunn, Chloe, and Dwlee are all not Rolecops.

[T3]

I think we need to hear from T3 about why he fakeclaimed and why he hammered.

T3's desire to avoid questions and then comes out with a suspicious claim may be a stall tactic.

The question I was avoiding is why I thought Dunn was town.
I thought Dunn was town because of my night action result (and it would be suboptimal to claim it yesterday instead of today), so this point is wrong.