Micro 1035: Commandless Chain of Command [game over!]

[Datisi]

vote count 1.13

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-12-06 02:00:00).

yeet

innocentvillager [2]:

skitter30, the worst

Mindhack Diva [2]:

osuka, Almost50

the worst [2]:

Darby, innocentvillager

not voting [3]:

Something_Smart, Dwlee99, Mindhack Diva

mod notes

~ skitter30 is v/la on fridays and saturdays

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[skitter30]

hmmmmmm
this logic feels a little twisty idk

[Dwlee99]

You're right that I didn't know scum had a fake claim @SS

[Dwlee99]

I actually completely get what something smart is saying about the game. I've felt the same way cause I'm a reactive type of player but it seems like everyone else is doing that too and then I'm just like .—. what do

[Dwlee99]

I think I believe the claim

I think by not claiming immediately IV had essentially claimed PR already, so he would have to use the fake claim if scum right?

[skitter30]

VOTE: ss

[Something_Smart]

VOTE: skitter

[Datisi]

prodding Darby and osuka.

[skitter30]

VOTE: skitter

i mean ok ...
if you're trying to indicate that you scumread me, i don't think you actually do

and given our prior convo i don't you should be finding this vote particularly scummy either

[Something_Smart]

I mean the way our convo went was I felt like I was basically talking past you.

I don't scumread you, no, but I feel like this is an appropriate situation for a mirror vote. (I just made up that term but the concept is not new)

[Something_Smart]

You passed my shitty test, for what it's worth. I wanted to make sure that you would actually think critically about the mirror vote instead of just shrugging it off and continuing to call me scum.

[skitter30]

I was trying to read what you said, but i basically felt like you were trying to shift the convo onto meta grounds, and then negate any meta-based arguments by saying we havent played a lot of tvt

When i wasnt really using meta and the basis of that argument is that i'm reading u as town

[Mindhack Diva]

You passed my shitty test, for what it's worth. I wanted to make sure that you would actually think critically about the mirror vote instead of just shrugging it off and continuing to call me scum.

What did you expect scum!skitter to do differently? :/

[Something_Smart]

I think scum-skitter was more likely to just ignore it and/or filter it through an "S_S is scum" lens. Not that it was guaranteed, just more likely.

[Something_Smart]

I was trying to read what you said, but i basically felt like you were trying to shift the convo onto meta grounds, and then negate any meta-based arguments by saying we havent played a lot of tvt

I mean, to some extent I was. I'm very sensitive to this dynamic where someone plays one game with scum-me and then thinks they have my number and proceeds to call me scum in every game ever for things I do every game. This has happened to me multiple times.

And as I was thinking back on our recent history I felt you were at fairly high risk of doing this, and if you're town here then you kinda are (obviously not EXACTLY the same because it's not like you're confident, but I see the similarity).

I do firmly believe that it's impossible to read someone you know as well as me and not have meta enter the picture at all. Like you can't just go on assuming that I play the same way as everyone else when you know that isn't true.

But more than that I feel like you didn't make an attempt to fit my posting into a townie mindset. Like regardless of how much sense it would make for me to play this way as scum, I don't feel like you really tried to judge how much sense it would make for me to play this way as town, despite my explanations of why it makes sense from my position. Or maybe you just didn't verbalize that process, but if so I would very much like to hear it.

[Something_Smart]

Laugh me off the block for this if you want, I don't care, but I think the above post is probably not in my scumrange.

[Something_Smart]

I think the ideas probably are, but I'm not sure that I'd be able to formulate things so cleanly. Honestly don't know. You can probably ignore this post and the previous one, but this is a time when I should definitely be as forthcoming with my thoughts as I can.

[skitter30]

ss i gotta bounce for the weekend, i'll pick up with this tomorrow night

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: ss

Why this in response to me saying I agree with them and think their mindset makes sense

[Mindhack Diva]

I don't think SS is scum

-A

[Mindhack Diva]

I'm starting to wonder if the game makes more sense with the scumteam being players that aren't really threatened on day one rather than just the less active players.

That seems way more sensical now that I think about it with how little has progressed despite all the words that are being exchanged.

-A

[the worst]

I don't think SS is scum

-A

dittooo

[Something_Smart]

It's not ditto, it's azelf, get it right.

[the worst]

Prove it I bet you can't

[the worst]

what if we're all dittos...