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[Andante]

I’m on mobile so I’m not going through this, but right now, Natalya/T3 are screaming scum, Dwlee is just “lol I’m sleeping T3” I will elaborate later, but Natalya/T3 are scum here

[Andante]

*sheeping T3
Lol stupid phone

[Scorpious]

I mean, the fact that someone that has said 30 words this game used words #28 and #29 to put me on e-1 should raise alarm bells, no?

I think it's cute you counted how many words dwlee has posted

are you going to vote for them?

I guessed.

No, idk. I really don’t.

This is the most gunshy I’ve ever been to post, vote, do anything. I feel like EVERY single thing I write is being just shredded and comes out the other end as me being scum, which is bullshit, because I can’t get any traction on anything.

Fua is a great example here.
Dude has ripped everything I write. Like, he’s spent the entire game just dumping on me.

Then he posts mafia theory about “eliminating scum places to hide” which is literally the same wording used in the mafia wiki..

Or

T3 and Dwlee sending secret message ls to each other after a horrible e-1 vote. That sucks.



I’m just tired of

[Natalya]

I already unvoted so he is at E-2 atp.

I don't think anyone should put him back at E-1 since we are still days away from deadline.

[Natalya]

This is the most gunshy I’ve ever been to post, vote, do anything. I feel like EVERY single thing I write is being just shredded and comes out the other end as me being scum, which is bullshit, because I can’t get any traction on anything.

You know if you weren't so shy about using your vote to do things you wouldn't actually be so scumread right?

Like voting for people you suspect is kind of how we play this game...

[T3]

I’m on mobile so I’m not going through this, but right now, Natalya/T3 are screaming scum, Dwlee is just “lol I’m sleeping T3” I will elaborate later, but Natalya/T3 are scum here

Is it my vote on Scorp that is scummy?

[Scorpious]

This is the most gunshy I’ve ever been to post, vote, do anything. I feel like EVERY single thing I write is being just shredded and comes out the other end as me being scum, which is bullshit, because I can’t get any traction on anything.

You know if you weren't so shy about using your vote to do things you wouldn't actually be so scumread right?

Like voting for people you suspect is kind of how we play this game...

I did.

[Natalya]

Fua is a great example here.
Dude has ripped everything I write. Like, he’s spent the entire game just dumping on me.

I don't think this is a fair characterization of Fua but I should probably re-read to be sure.

from my memory I remembered Fua was kind of trying to help you get more into the game and almost kind of trying to teach you how to play.

Also Fua's pronoun is "they" and not "he".

I know you can feel that way but sometimes people really are genuinely trying to help you.

[Dwlee99]

Get Scorp off E-1 right now.
You don’t put someone on E-1 unless you want them to go over.

Scorp isn't on E-1 anymore

[Scorpious]

Fua is a great example here.
Dude has ripped everything I write. Like, he’s spent the entire game just dumping on me.

I don't think this is a fair characterization of Fua but I should probably re-read to be sure.

from my memory I remembered Fua was kind of trying to help you get more into the game and almost kind of trying to teach you how to play.

Also Fua's pronoun is "they" and not "he".

I know you can feel that way but sometimes people really are genuinely trying to help you.

Fair..(about the pronouns. My bad)

Do you really think they have taken a “helpful” tone?

[Dwlee99]

Look if someone hammered there without claim that's basically a scum claim so I'm really not pressed about it, no matter how you feel about putting someone at e-1

[T3]

IDK if I'm just feeling petty tonight but I kind of hate those reads from Scorp

mindmeld

[Scorpious]

Look if someone hammered there without claim that's basically a scum claim so I'm really not pressed about it, no matter how you feel about putting someone at e-1

It’s weird though that your first real anything is to put someone on e-1.

But, I don’t think scum would be so obvious.

[Andante]

Scum will toss on E-2 no problem, town is more likely to hammer an e-1 there

[Natalya]

dwlee-scum really is that obvious

[T3]

Another rule of thumb I generally go by is seeing who has reactionary play as opposed to proactive play. If you just sit on the sidelines and comment on other peoples' reads or focus on defending yourself, that's often an indicator that someone wants to appear as town without actually doing any of the work to scumhunt.

You're probably gonna hate me then.

i also have two reads that i am very much committing to and will actively fight against either of their elims. im just explaining why i have no other reads at the moment. it's not noncommittal, it's explaining what im considering with most of these players and why there is no conclusion currently.

UNVOTE: aza
I think this comes from town.

I really don't see the scum motivation for this post

and it seems genuine.

Huh? They're clarifying that the first paragraph of 272 wasn't waffling when Scorp said that they all were. Why wouldn't anyone do that naturally?

Wait, huh.

[T3]

I'm fairly sure Oman is town.

Reading their posts they feel genuinely upset that large portions of the player list are not posting and resigned to town apathy possibly destroying the chances of town winning this game.

They haven't played on the site for a while and they come from a time when lurking was actually quite an issue for town win rates so I think this mindset probably is not faked.

It's not like 100% but they're one of my more confident townreads atp for what it's worth.

I'll sheep this read.

[T3]

I mean, the fact that someone that has said 30 words this game used words #28 and #29 to put me on e-1 should raise alarm bells, no?

I think it's cute you counted how many words dwlee has posted

are you going to vote for them?

I guessed.

No, idk. I really don’t.

This is the most gunshy I’ve ever been to post, vote, do anything. I feel like EVERY single thing I write is being just shredded and comes out the other end as me being scum, which is bullshit, because I can’t get any traction on anything.

Fua is a great example here.
Dude has ripped everything I write. Like, he’s spent the entire game just dumping on me.

Then he posts mafia theory about “eliminating scum places to hide” which is literally the same wording used in the mafia wiki..

Or

T3 and Dwlee sending secret message ls to each other after a horrible e-1 vote. That sucks.



I’m just tired of

We're not sending secret messages to each other. It's a joke from a past game.

[Natalya]

Do you really think they have taken a “helpful” tone?

yes

for example:

I'll ask again. Do you have any reads or takes on the game that don't involve you being upset at people scumreading you?

this is them telling you what you need to do to not be scum-read/pushed...

[Natalya]

Look if someone hammered there without claim that's basically a scum claim so I'm really not pressed about it, no matter how you feel about putting someone at e-1

I mean you've played in games where people have hammered e-1s early and then repeatedly so I don't really think town!you is this cavalier about it.

[Natalya]

VOTE: Dwlee99

[Oman]

Like, at D1 let's not be scared of -1/-2. Its a tool that generates responses and we've seen some. It's good. Natalya walking away from the ledge is a solid town play if Scorp is (per my belief) town. That's really valuable to me and to the team as a whole.

Is a good place to be. I'm heading to sleep but hopefully we point this in an actual good direction before I wake up and hold this momentum.

I don't know if this E-1 or 2 or whatever it was vote leads to Dwleescum but it's a) a better wagon than Scorp, and b) I'm here to find out.

VOTE: Dwlee99

[fua]

I mean, the fact that someone that has said 30 words this game used words #28 and #29 to put me on e-1 should raise alarm bells, no?

I think it's cute you counted how many words dwlee has posted

are you going to vote for them?

I guessed.

No, idk. I really don’t.

This is the most gunshy I’ve ever been to post, vote, do anything. I feel like EVERY single thing I write is being just shredded and comes out the other end as me being scum, which is bullshit, because I can’t get any traction on anything.

Fua is a great example here.
Dude has ripped everything I write. Like, he’s spent the entire game just dumping on me.

Then he posts mafia theory about “eliminating scum places to hide” which is literally the same wording used in the mafia wiki..

Or

T3 and Dwlee sending secret message ls to each other after a horrible e-1 vote. That sucks.



I’m just tired of

I’m sorry if I made you feel that way about the way I’m approaching this game. From my point of view I was trying to be reasonable and give you a ton of chances to focus on scumhunting, I just got upset because you used ATE instead of answering the questions I was asking you and lost my cool. Who do you want to go on here? I did say I’d like to give you the benefit of the doubt off of playstyle differences in one of my recent posts, for what it’s worth.

[fua]

Anyway, Page 19 is… really something, alright.

UNVOTE:

I’m going to read through ISOs again and try to figure this out.

[Scorpious]

I still don’t see Natalya as scum. It would take a lot to convince me differently.

As I said I’m a sucker for activity and both her and Andante satisfy me there.