Mini 2251: Triplicate! GAME OVER!

[Titus]

I think RR is lying though. The DL vote went from automatically being the first vote on the wagon regardless of vote time to being in the middle of the pack like a normal vote. This happened after Cheeky died. Or maybe the mod is just inconsistent?

Crap. You're right. I shouldn't do math that late at night.

It is possible that the fourth change occurs before or after T3. We do know that T3 can only be scum with RR.

[Radical Rat]

Vote Count Normal.1.08

Dunnstral (E-1):

RCEnigma, Ircher, Lady Chloe, CheekyTeeky, T3, Amy Dunne

MegAzumarill (E-4):

Dwlee99, mastina, House,

Radical Rat (E-5):

MegAzumarill, Almost50,

RCEnigma (E-7):

T3 (E-7):

House (E-7):

Amy Dunne (E-7):

Almost50 (E-7):

mastina (E-7):

Dwlee99 (E-7):

CheekyTeeky (E-7):

Lady Chloe (E-7):

Ircher (E-7):

No Elim (0):

Not Voting (2):

Dunnstral, Everyone Else

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to murder/death/kill or

7

to choose not to.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-12-14 22:00:00).

Vote Count Mini Theme.1.08

Dunnstral (E-1):

RCEnigma, Ircher, Lady Chloe, CheekyTeeky, T3, Amy Dunne

MegAzumarill (E-3):

Dwlee99,

Demon Lord

, mastina, House,

Radical Rat (E-5):

MegAzumarill, Almost50,

RCEnigma (E-7):

T3 (E-7):

House (E-7):

Amy Dunne (E-7):

Almost50 (E-7):

mastina (E-7):

Dwlee99 (E-7):

CheekyTeeky (E-7):

Lady Chloe (E-7):

Ircher (E-7):

No Elim (0):

Not Voting (2):

Dunnstral, Everyone Else

With 13 alive, it takes

7

to murder/death/kill or

7

to choose not to.

The deadline for Day 1 is in (expired on 2021-12-10 22:00:00).

Vote Count Open.2.00

Amy Dunne (E-5):

mastina (E-5):

Dwlee99(E-5):

Dunnstral(E-5):

CheekyTeeky(E-5):

Lady Chloe(E-5):

Ircher(E-5):

T3(E-5):

No Elim (0):

Not Voting (8):

Everyone Else

With 8 alive, it takes

5

to murder/death/kill or

4

to choose not to.

@mod, can we get an updated VC please?

Sorry, I passed out early last night and have spent the morning sick.

There has been a hammer on Dunn in the open

Ircher->Chloe->Cheeky->Dwlee->T3

Dunn flips VT.

Votes reset for game three. I’ll edit this into a proper VC format as soon as I am able, but it may be a few hours.

Note: VC for Open not updated in this post, will update soon.

BEHOLD!
Demon Lord not being first in the list, while Cheeky was still alive.

Try again Dunn

[Radical Rat]

Hey Titus, Who are the scum in A? We’re at freaking elo in A, so why are you are you paying attention almost exclusively to B when one wrong vote could hand scum the game?

It's a generic scum tell.

She's focused on solving B because she doesn't HAVE to solve A.

Well you’d think she’d be interested in in both but especially A. Once RR claimed ub, both

them

anf Titus have mainly been focused on B. Meanwhile me, Chloe and Mastina are primarily concerned with A. Actually Chloe is with both. However me and Mastina are dead in A, so that might partially account for that.

I am very much concerned about A. However, while we wait on claims nothing's really happening there. I've already claimed, I've given my thoughts on the potential solves, but there's not really anything else to say there unless you have a specific question.

Meanwhile there has been a lot of confusion and specific questions in B. It's not that I don't care about A, and I have consistently said we need to settle A before we move on to voting in B. It's just that B actually has active conversations happening.

And?

Yout solve in A is what exactly? Tell me who are the scum in A.

Either T3/Dunn/Cheeky or Dwlee/Dunn/Cheeky. Leaning towards Dwlee because of T3's claim

[Radical Rat]

I did NOT say it isn't considered in the result. I said it doesn't have an alignment.

Please read literally any of my posts where I talk about the results and you'll notice that I am in fact counting the Demon Lord.

Then your analysis makes very little sense to me and if I say I still don’t understand how you have me/Dunn and Alyssa/House linked, you will once again claim to find that conerning or whatever. Whenever ANYONE links me up with another player in any game ever, when that linking makes zero sense to me, I always auto mistrust it. Why? because I know I’m flipping town but both you and Titus are arguing that despite me totally not understanding any of this, I should be confisvumming Dunn based on this. I have independent reasons to think he could possibly be scum in either or both games but this 100% isn’t fucking it, so for anyone to argue the contrary is clearly misconstruing my posting. I can only solvr based on what I understand, which clearly isn’t this, so you and Titus can please stop putting words in my mouth. Please and thank you.

You > Chloe > Demon Lord > Dunnstral > T3 > mastina is a sequence with four alignment changes. Demon Lord is neither Town nor Scum on its own, so there will be one change before and one change after no matter what. mastina is third party, so the same applies, but as the hammer vote no one voted after her, so only one change there.

You <?> Chloe <1> Demon Lord <2> Dunnstral <?> T3 <3> mastina.

T3 is mechanically confirmed Town as long as I'm Town. Chloe already flipped Town. Both potential changes are from an unknown player to a Town slot. So either you or Dunnstral MUST be an alignment that isn't Town. But you can't BOTH be, because that would be too many changes.

If you still don't understand it, then I'm sorry but I don't know how else to explain it.

[Radical Rat]

I think RR is lying though. The DL vote went from automatically being the first vote on the wagon regardless of vote time to being in the middle of the pack like a normal vote. This happened after Cheeky died. Or maybe the mod is just inconsistent?

Also just. Putting aside for a moment that this is just factually incorrect...

Why the hell would Cheeky being alive affect how YOUR role works?

[Titus]

Pretty sure Dunn is just scum in both games and people are jockeying for who to vote next.

[Titus]

I'm not a fan of that. Let's get the scumflip then the NKs. Then we can argue about who to kill next.

VOTE: Dunn

[Titus]

Part of the problem here is we have too many slots basically not participating.

Dunn and Cheeky in game A just got prodded. Feels like scum trying to get us to rip our own throats out.

Alyssa has done zilch since I arrived. House isn't solving either but bitching due to an accident. Only one of them can be scum in B though. So we need to do something to get the town one to contribute.

[House]

I'm not bitching, just stating a plain fact.

You're scum in A. *shrug*

[Radical Rat]

I'm okay eliminating Dunnstral, but we need to do it in an order that maximizes information from my result, since votes from most people are going to count in both games.

T3 needs to be the next to vote

[Titus]

I'm not bitching, just stating a plain fact.

You're scum in A. *shrug*

Where's your hunting in their game?

[Titus]

*both games?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Idk what you're expecting me to do when Game A is waiting on claims and Game B is knee deep in setup nonsense

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I think RR is just full of shit, frankly

[Titus]

Idk what you're expecting me to do when Game A is waiting on claims and Game B is knee deep in setup nonsense

Give me your current opinion without the claims. I think it's just Cheeky left.

In B, you can read people based off their play.

Give me something. Anything.

[House]

I'm not bitching, just stating a plain fact.

You're scum in A. *shrug*

Where's your hunting in their game?

I don't care about B. Just like I didn't care about C.

Just like I didn't care about A until you obvscummed.

[Titus]

I'm not bitching, just stating a plain fact.

You're scum in A. *shrug*

Where's your hunting in their game?

I don't care about B. Just like I didn't care about C.

Just like I didn't care about A until you obvscummed.

You were scum in C. If you don't care about B "just like" C, then you're scum claiming in B.

As for A, you're just being bitter.

[Titus]

It's rather frustrating too given our record. If you'd talk to engage me in A, you'd see that I'm town that made a mistake.

[Titus]

If I am misinterpreting you, why join games you don't care to play?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Idk what you're expecting me to do when Game A is waiting on claims and Game B is knee deep in setup nonsense

Give me your current opinion without the claims. I think it's just Cheeky left.

In B, you can read people based off their play.

Give me something. Anything.

I did give you something

I don't think this mech solve in B is valid and that RR is the most likely scum slot in the game, likely with Dunn.

I don't feel like pushing it because the nature of his claim makes it impossible.

So really I'm just waiting until people decide on what they're going to decide on so we can get back to the game that actually matters right now

[Radical Rat]

Why isn't it valid? What specific problem do you have with it?

[Radical Rat]

I'm not scum, but I AM capable of being wrong. If you see something I don't, please say so.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I don't buy the claim in the first place

[Titus]

Why?

[Titus]

Do you think RR is trying to leverage Dunn being obvscum in game A to set up a 1 v 1 with Amy in Game B?