Holiday Dance Party ---- Game Over

[Save The Dragons]

but is that likely to happen

[Taly]

I hope you understand why I don't find that compelling at all ydrasse

Well I think Ydra is a good candidate to pair with, you're not objecting to my consideration to pair despite your read.

Do you see utility in a scum-IC pair?

I'll make scum wish they don't want me alive. Bet.

I hope Slaughter Hour taught some people that I'm a crazy bitch when pushed

[marcistar]

do u want me to meta her or no

just a quick pointer on whether she's usually like this as town and generally how much experience she has

ive played with her for awhile.
her style is usually heavy into the afk territory as either alignment. the only time ive ever really seen her give any reads was when she and our other friend took control of the town in one game i wasnt playing and forced a elim, she and my friend were both town, and so was their elim target. otherwise im pretty sure she just bandwagons.

Aka are you asking him to dance because you're upset

im only slightly upset
i hate it when people plan my death right in front of me. since that happened im prob better off dying??
i hate feeling so useless and like my opinions wont really be listened to.
its why i hate playing with the people me and lily typically play with, they just ignore my posts no matter what i do, no matter how hard i try?? literally they dont even read my posts sometimes, they decide to do that for the stupidest reasons.

i really do wanna die if people will just continue to sus me, theres no way itll help town to keep me alive for long.

Also have your reads changed

not too much.

[Datisi]

actually, why is it town? was it even town? i don't remember

pedit: funny you should say that, no clue why i'm townreading you. investigating my subconscious wrt that is for tomorrow

[Datisi]

I don't want prism anywhere near endgame.

this is also something i'm interested in hearing about

tomorrow

off to sleep for real

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I hope you understand why I don't find that compelling at all ydrasse

Well I think Ydra is a good candidate to pair with, you're not objecting to my consideration to pair despite your read.

Do you see utility in a scum-IC pair?

I'll make scum wish they don't want me alive. Bet.

I hope Slaughter Hour taught some people that I'm a crazy bitch when pushed

I think there is some value in a scum + IC pair for town, at least I don't think it's inherently bad for the IC to pair with someone that isn't especially town

I don't like designating the IC pair or my own pair for endgame

[Prism]

I really like the recent posting from marcistar.

I had given her a townread in the recently completed Signs for being more proactive, vocal, and intentional with reads. I did not feel her start was inconceivable given that game. I think the recent posting with GL, and the actual mechanical play again with a table where she has every reason to be on the backfoot, has me townreading the slot.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I can detail what my approach is towards these dance games is later if people want me to

Ngl I think this setup is heavily townsided if played properly, just it generally isn't

[Prism]

Alyssa, can you give me a brief rundown of your current pairing ideas?

I do not know if you will find it relevant, but it might help in sorting me to keep in mind that I was the other half of Black Hole Defection in Flying Scumsman. More specifically, while this is a bad thing about myself, my contempt for the town of that game made me feel like it wasn't worth playing or giving my time to. This had one exception: I took great interest in coaching Isis exactly how to get townread by yourself and by Taly, from the larger picture to the more rote diction/syntax.

[Ydrasse]

Ydrasse, I've been very intentional over the last few games, both as scum and as town, in how I've interacted with you. I was careful to stay out of your way as town, learning that the warm demander approach I normally take with players was in your case counterproductive, and there's a certain paternalism to it that made me increasingly uncomfortable given that you are fully capable, and often better than me, on your own. As scum I have been very intentional to strip you of any motivation you might scrape together, determined to make sure that you never get into gear.

I have nowhere I am really going with this other than to share a brief moment of genuine warmth. I think you are town, and at the risk of being counterproductive by voicing expectations, I hope you pair with Taly, make the most of it, and force a nightkill.

i don’t have the Me right now to explain in full how this was something needed today for me, and i spent some time trying to find the image i had in mind to reply with, but take a different one from my phone. thank you

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[RH9]

i 100% want andante gone after we're flipped tho, andante is literally so scummy and u guys arent listening???? shes using her emotions to her advantage, and just not giving reads at all????

I think that Andante's reluctance to post a reads list comes from EM. When I was on that site, reads weren't regarded that highly and readlists were almost nonexistent.

catboi should prob go as well since his reads have been pretty bad and thatll only help scum he could prob be someone who goes deep.

I want catboi to answer my 929 first. Though, catboi does feel less heroic than usual. Usually, catboi is great to be around, but in this game, I am finding it hard to keep catboi out of my nullreads. I find that catboi is hardly doing anything indicative of Town or scum. I will be fine if catboi just ends up with Cabd. I trust Cabd to be able to properly sort catboi and help us figure out if catboi is scum.

[Taly]

I consider Ydra because I think we mesh well under the assumption the other is solving and working toward a town wincon in good faith.

LLD would be a good coach if town that I don't think can manipulate me if scum.

Prism would just be really interesting to deep dive analysis with, I just really like her brain even when I don't agree with her tbh

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I don't remember very much about that game other than my reads sucked g1 but my playstyle kicked in and had me second guessing the right slots

[Ydrasse]

I hope you understand why I don't find that compelling at all ydrasse

Yeah i can get it

I’ll kick it into gear not now but eventually anyways

[Taly]

LLD, thoughts on Catboi/Cabd pair?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I hope you understand why I don't find that compelling at all ydrasse

Yeah i can get it

I’ll kick it into gear not now but eventually anyways

Okay

Take your time, I don't mean to make things tougher on you outside of the game

[Prism]

I don't remember very much about that game other than my reads sucked g1 but my playstyle kicked in and had me second guessing the right slots

Yes, unfortunately I did not communicate an instruction clearly to Isis which resulted in an error. I informed her ahead of time that it would happen, and it was so.

I am still quite annoyed that Alisae never released my notes PT from that game.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

Alyssa, can you give me a brief rundown of your current pairing ideas?

I do not know if you will find it relevant, but it might help in sorting me to keep in mind that I was the other half of Black Hole Defection in Flying Scumsman. More specifically, while this is a bad thing about myself, my contempt for the town of that game made me feel like it wasn't worth playing or giving my time to. This had one exception: I took great interest in coaching Isis exactly how to get townread by yourself and by Taly, from the larger picture to the more rote diction/syntax.

I haven't forgotten the question, I just can't answer until I'm at my desktop

[Ydrasse]

I hope you understand why I don't find that compelling at all ydrasse

Yeah i can get it

I’ll kick it into gear not now but eventually anyways

Okay

Take your time, I don't mean to make things tougher on you outside of the game

You’re not don’t worry but thank you regardless

[Taly]

yay healthy conversations

[Ydrasse]

I’ll be aroundish but animal crossing time

[Prism]

Ydrasse saying "no" and crossing her arms, and treating her alignment as self-evident, in response to a scumread on her is one of her great joys in life. You definitely added to her day.

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I'm very curious how you went about pocketing me though

That's one of the few things I think I'm particularly good about stopping, especially if it happens before

[Taly]

Part of me wants to play my IC role like a cop invest,

Datisi

!town suggested so

I don't think scum refrains to NK a town/town pair just for WIFOM... do they?

[Taly]

But that's counterintuitive because it means I'm pairing to die and take someone with me...

This type of spec goes into messy shit on how effective a town IC voice is the later they survive a game because the question of why they are alive also comes into play.

Uhh. I think I'm done with theory. I'm just going to pair with who I feel most comfortable solving this game with