Holiday Dance Party ---- Game Over

[Taly]

SS

, what is youe take on

Cat

? lol

[marcistar]

@Marci
What game was that?

IJGFDN I NEARLY FORGOT THE NUMBERS

newbie 2061?

[marcistar]

this annoys me.

I mean it annoys me too but optimal is optimal

[Taly]

Yeah you know what

Datisi X Alyssa The Lamb

Catboi X Something_Smart

these are OK unless any of them throw a tantrum over the thought.

[Taly]

Leaves the pool with

RH9/Galron

as gents and

Mala/Angie/GuiltyLion

as ladies.

[Something_Smart]

That one will go in the history books as an example of. "This is why you don’t speculate on replacements for sure.

I mean of course you can't know for sure, but it seems pretty reasonable to think it's a possibility.

Of course there are other possibilities as well. Probably best not to get too much into that though.

[Datisi]

but i'm not sure i want to pair with alyssa >_> how *sure* are you she's town? i don't think i'll be able to correctly scumread her if she's scum

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I know this isn't exactly reassuring

But there are...uh... I think 3 people that have ever been able to consistently scumread me correctly without scumreading my town game a lot in compensation

[Taly]

I think

Alyssa

has used her knowledge of how my brain works to helping me gain thread control and I don't think she as scum would want me making her decisions when I've largely given mixed signals on what she is best for her to do up to this point.

How do you read

Titus

,

Datisi

?

[Alyssa The Lamb]

It's usually better to judge based on how town I look

It's generally more likely to be accurate that way

[Something_Smart]

I'm going to pull my hair out.

Words =/= effort.

Depends on the person.

[Datisi]

How do you read Titus, Datisi?

scummy but i wouldn't be shocked if i'm wrong

the convo we had earlier today did give me a few doubts, but i feel like that is something i'm just going to be going in circles on until i get some flips

[Taly]

ngl I think I'd be doing more damage to Taly by just aggressively pushing my own thoughts and forcing him to adapt to me rather than the other way around

Why does

Aly

-scum ever say this?

[Datisi]

eli5 how is that supposed to be clearing? am tired x_x

[catboi]

Cat

, what is your take on

SS

?

Th slot has barely done anything to be readable at this point. ┐(￣ー￣)┌

[Something_Smart]

who? why didn't you name them up front?

Idk the people who know me. Datisi, FB, Ydrasse, Alyssa, maybe Titus, maybe Taly, maybe catboi although it seems like probably not.

It's pretty dependent on how the game goes though, all of these people have misread me before.

[GuiltyLion]

I've been traveling today and will have time to play for real later. Juet landed in Phoenix. I wanna say just based on the last page that Catboi/SS is a terrible idea it just results in catboi leaving early. S_S should only be paired with another suspected slot or preferably iced out of the dance entirely

[GuiltyLion]

I'd love to accept Datisi's proposal both because I think it'd be good for the game and because I'd have the most fun that way, but it sounds like Taly is against it? I reserve the right to Yolo accept later but I'm OK in theory with Datisi/Alyssa pairing instead if it means I get my say on who gets iced or limmed first. I'll address posts/questions towards me later.

Taly please can you explain why you are townreading Cabd/SS. It's the scummiest slot in the game. S_S hasn't done anything to make me reconsider and at times has been scummy himself as well

[Alyssa The Lamb]

who? why didn't you name them up front?

Idk the people who know me. Datisi, FB, Ydrasse, Alyssa, maybe Titus, maybe Taly, maybe catboi although it seems like probably not.

It's pretty dependent on how the game goes though, all of these people have misread me before.

I think I'm capable of correctly reading SS indirectly, but directly not a chance

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Marcistar & NorwegianBoyEE have paired!

[Taly]

eli5 how is that supposed to be clearing? am tired x_x

Alyssa

does not focus on the game like a lot of other players do when they make reads or judge a course of action. She reads the game as if it's constantly changing into a new state and how each individual approaches at a certain point in the game is the greatest determinant of their alignment.

If she were scum, I don't think she'd imply a T/T over 2 slots that have been judged as potential S/S

(Titus/GL)

and then proceed to approach the IC in a way

Alyssa

finds is most productive method of sorting for the IC, not herself. She's working toward an environment where I am strongest in.

It's different than how I would think scum would want to give up control to me, because she isn't demanding I protect her or do anything additional aside from just solving. For her to be scum, would be akin to thinking that

more than 1 scum have already paired

because of how lax she is taking the lack of direction.

And while the above idea that, in a horrible scenario, more than 1 scum is in

Titus/Andante/Fire/Ydrasse/Dragons

is still possible, it's both a moot point to consider right now and does not necessarily mean

Alyssa

is scum unless ALL of her S/S interactions in this group have been distancing and bussing everyone but

Fire

-scum.

It feels reachy.

pedit

I'd love to accept Datisi's proposal both because I think it'd be good for the game and because I'd have the most fun that way, but it sounds like Taly is against it? I reserve the right to Yolo accept later but I'm OK in theory with Datisi/Alyssa pairing instead if it means I get my say on who gets iced or limmed first. I'll address posts/questions towards me later.

Taly please can you explain why you are townreading Cabd/SS. It's the scummiest slot in the game. S_S hasn't done anything to make me reconsider and at times has been scummy himself as well

I'm not against a

Datisi/you

pairing, I just feel

Datisi/Alyssa

would be the slot that I'm most confident who is Town/Town among any other possible scenario.

And I don't really townread

Cabd/SS

but I do notice a trend that they're being pushed by several slots with understated reasoning. I also like the thought of pairing one of

LLD/Prism/Cabd

slot with

Catboi

because each of those three predecessors either had a strong townread or scumread of

Cat

.

It would be interesting to indirectly read those interactions with the context of such a pair.

[Taly]

eli5 how is that supposed to be clearing? am tired x_x

Alyssa

does not focus on the game like a lot of other players do when they make reads or judge a course of action. She reads the game as if it's constantly changing into a new state and how each individual approaches at a certain point in the game is the greatest determinant of their alignment.

If she were scum, I don't think she'd imply a T/T over 2 slots that have been judged as potential S/S

(Titus/GL)

and then proceed to approach the IC in a way

Alyssa

finds is most productive method of sorting for the IC, not herself. She's working toward an environment where I am strongest in.

It's different than how I would think scum would want to give up control to me, because she isn't demanding I protect her or do anything additional aside from just solving. For her to be scum, would be akin to thinking that

more than 1 scum have already paired

because of how lax she is taking the lack of direction.

And while the above idea that, in a horrible scenario, more than 1 scum is in

Titus/Andante/Fire/Ydrasse/Dragons

is still possible, it's both a moot point to consider right now and does not necessarily mean

Alyssa

is scum unless ALL of her S/S interactions in this group have been distancing and bussing everyone but

Fire

-scum.

It feels reachy.

pedit

I'd love to accept Datisi's proposal both because I think it'd be good for the game and because I'd have the most fun that way, but it sounds like Taly is against it? I reserve the right to Yolo accept later but I'm OK in theory with Datisi/Alyssa pairing instead if it means I get my say on who gets iced or limmed first. I'll address posts/questions towards me later.

Taly please can you explain why you are townreading Cabd/SS. It's the scummiest slot in the game. S_S hasn't done anything to make me reconsider and at times has been scummy himself as well

I'm not against a

Datisi/you

pairing, I just feel

Datisi/Alyssa

would be the slot that I'm most confident who is Town/Town among any other possible scenario.

And I don't really townread

Cabd/SS

but I do notice a trend that they're being pushed by several slots with understated reasoning. I also like the thought of pairing one of

LLD/Prism/Cabd

slot with

Catboi

because each of those three predecessors either had a strong townread or scumread of

Cat

.

It would be interesting to indirectly read those interactions with the context of such a pair.

[Taly]

Meh, I don't know. My WIM's a little hurt at the moment.

People aren't afraid to tell me my pair idea is either terrible or that I'm wasting an IC slot.

I probably need a break from the thread for the rest of the night.

[NorwegianboyEE]

As long as you're putting in effort into solving i don't think you're wasting an IC slot.
I respect someone putting in effort but being completely wrong in their reads more than i do someone that doesn't do anything at all.

[RH9]

Leaves the pool with

RH9/Galron

as gents and

Mala/Angie/GuiltyLion

as ladies.

This is becoming scary because out of the three in your pool, I only TR GL. The others are null.
Actually, I'll just propose to the three that I'm fine with now before it it too late and I'm stuck with Mala and angielily.

I'm pretty sure that the setup didn't say that I can only propose to one person.

PROPOSE:GL

PROPOSE:Alyssa

PROPOSE:S_S

I'm panicking. This is the end of the world.