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[T3]

VOTE: T3

I wonder if we’ll actually get some traction on this or if it’ll magically disappear again.

catching up

[T3]

Doctor

i don't buy this based on the idea i have of georgebailey mod meta

[Andante]

Yall seriously made UD claim? what even... do I have to start being more active and yelling? literally just get T3

[Gamma Emerald]

Doctor

i don't buy this based on the idea i have of georgebailey mod meta

why
he has weird tastes to my knowledge
last game I played of his had 2 scum backup neighbors

[Retti]

Doctor

i don't buy this based on the idea i have of georgebailey mod meta

Sleazy argument.

[the worst]

T3 wagon remains all town go us

[Dwlee99]

Retti is ultra mega town right now.

I can't say I agree on getting t3 over aza first though. I will also say that I had the same thought about gamma but didn't out it and am very glad because it means I now feel super sure of town!retti

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: T3

I wonder if we’ll actually get some traction on this or if it’ll magically disappear again.

catching up

Eh this was 4 hours ago now maybe t3 is a good flip

[UglyDuck]

Like I don't even want to continue, this is TVT, I don't want this to consume our entire deadline while scum just chill in the background

I concur with this summary of the oman/DW back and forth.

[Andresvmb]

I’ll have a Scum in the next 5 hours.

[UglyDuck]

Doctor

i don't buy this based on the idea i have of georgebailey mod meta

I have a modifier. There absolutely no value in me claiming what it is though.

[UglyDuck]

I have read again and I will not be switching to DW. I still like Aza the best currently. I will sheep the current wagoneers on T3 if I must to get the lim off.

[Natalya]

I’ll have a Scum in the next 5 hours.

I guess we can all sheep Andres when he's done catching a scum for us

[UglyDuck]

I’ll have a Scum in the next 5 hours.

I guess we can all sheep Andres when he's done catching a scum for us

Nat - how do you read the oman/DW back and forth?

[Natalya]

I tr Oman and I think dwlee is mafia.

[UglyDuck]

I tr Oman and I think dwlee is mafia.

okie dokie, thanks. do you feel like the back and forth that got heated there was same same vibe as you were getting as when you had the back and forth with DW?

[Natalya]

I don't read people off of the vibe they give when they defend themselves. I read them based on what is their goal and what are they doing to advance their goal. I have a hard time believing dwlee's goal is to kill mafia.

[UglyDuck]

coolcoolcoolcool but I am not asking how you read people. I am asking if you think the conversations are similar. My apologies if the word "vibe" was misleading.

[UglyDuck]

fua/DW - lots of games together, yes?

[UglyDuck]

Andre - would love that skum result

[UglyDuck]

lmao I love the flavor, this will be my favorite game ever, what even is that? a Rooster x ....

That’s my dad.

this is the best post of the game and I am sorry I missed it the first time. fucking lol

[UglyDuck]

[quote="In post 62

LMAOOOO This is great.

"Andante is talking a lot. Has to be scum indicative"

So what, you prefer the "haha (vote X)"? you kinda have to talk to advance the game, also if you look at any of my past games, I just talk a lot in general, it's not alignment indicative

ah nice!

yeezys(1) ~ Egix96(1)
UglyDuck(1) ~ Andresvmb(2)
Scorpious(1) ~ Natalya(9)
Natalya(1) ~ Oman(2)
fua(1) ~ Scorpious(5)
Egix96(1) ~ Retti(2)
Andresvmb(1) ~ UglyDuck(1)

So these are the "haha (vote x)" people and there's way too many for that to be all town,

The people that came back and talked were Retti, Scorp, Natalya

I might TR Oman, I know what they're talking about

Leaves Egix, Andres, UglyDuck, likely at least 1 scum in them

(I know it's crazy vague, but game just started, and that's where my initial suspicious go)

why is it weird for someone to think you are skummy for talking a lot but then you assume there has to be skum in the people that don't talk a lot?
was this just pressure for posts? why the call out? We collectively had like negative 6 posts at that time - so why is you posting a lot not indicative but us not doing so makes us skummy?
(don't use the easy answer, it's a real question)

[UglyDuck]

Votecount 1.9

UglyDuck(5)

~ Andresvmb(10), the worst(74), Dwlee99(100), fua(66), Scorpious(86)

Dwlee99(5)

~ Natalya(85), Oman(19), Azaariah(27), UglyDuck(11), T3(45)

T3(2)

~ Andante(138), Retti(79)

Scorpious(1)

~ Egix96(9)


Not Voting (0):

With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2021-12-21 15:28:22)

I hate my wagon right now. Normally I feel like I would have a townread on someone voting me but I just... don't beyond kind of feeling like Natalya and t3 are like probably town but I'm not feeling GREAT about it cause yea. My natalya read kinda just hard biased by their push on me. Uglyduck wagon looks pure actually. Hero solve: Oman/Azaariah/Uglyduck?

How do you feel about the makeup of the UD wagon right now?

I said I think it's pure (town)

I can go through these but like tldr is that worst, fua, and you seem townie. Andres I feel least confident on being town on this wagon but I think scum!Andres has means and motive to push me through here which he hasn't done (in fact he's done the opposite)

I will not be having a 40 post conversation back and forth with you, so please just answer (no offense intended, love playing with you)
I think you are town. If I am right, this is good info.
How do you feel about the make up of this wagon as of now?

[UglyDuck]

You still have no stated reason to scumread me. This seems extremely fake

UUUUUGH. Fine. I'm not taking the bait any more. I've put my thoughts out, I've put my votes down. I've made my moves. You don't like them, you think it's fake, whatever mate. I've tried. You don't wanna believe me, you don't gotta.

No you haven't??? Wtf

Haven't I? Shit. Sorry. That's my bad, I thought I'd made this post earlier (I've been on your wagon for a while, I thought I'd scattered these through for a long time).

The Scorp E-1 was ridonkulously bad for a number of reasons. That was a volatile wagon that didn't need more fire and you/Jackson had posted VERY VERY little before making one of the least productive and potentially most harmful moves in the game so far. It truly looked like opportunism, on a wagon that was emotional enough that someone feasibly could have hammered and talked their way out of it. "Hammering at this point is a death sentence" was your stance, and I understand what you're saying, but I disagree. I think with how salty Scorp was acting, Town absolutely could have hammered him and then been follow-up pushed, or scum could have done it and then walked away from explosions. I don't think it's NEARLY as reductive as you put it, and for that to be your first action, so blase, SUCKS to me.

Your reaction to Natalya and now me is incredibly defensive. To the point that it feels scummy. For the same reason I read ScorpTown for their response to pressure, I almost entirely read you as scum because of how much you've overblown Natalya and now me for looking in your direction. As I said, it's big OMGUS energy. Obviously with me you've got a real reason to be salty because apparaently I never put this in text, and that does suck, I'm sorry, especially for saying I have and acting like that. But it's still super defensive. And perhaps most telling of all, a scumtell I'm very familiar with, is being upset not because you are being pressured, but becasue you're being pressured for

a reason you think is unfair

. Natalya's meta stuff, and my agreeing with you thing. It reeks a lot of someone who is finding the pressure a little unfair because they think they deserve to be cleaner than they are.

Oman - you admit to not putting it into text. you really thing it is AI to be defensive when someone repeatedly asks you for reasons and then you later realize that you did not give them? like after saying you gave them? like a lot? They pushed you because you did not provide a reason for the origin of your case, they continued to do so, it turned into nonsense.... fine. Whatever, coming from town, that is not AI, that is "why the eff are you still talking to me and asking me questions before you answer mine".

You are a pretty solid lock for me and I am more certain of green DW than all but one player in this game. please move the vote.

[UglyDuck]

Aza/ T3/ Scorp - why did you vote me?