In post 83, imaginality wrote:1. You weren't asking about a vote on you.
2. Phrasing. "Explain why to me" rings like someone wanting to understand the reasoning behind the vote. "What's the thinking here" feels a little more like what someone says when they know there are valid reasons to consider them scum and are wondering if the player is voting them for a good reason or is right for the wrong reasons.
That's my gut feel about the phrasing and since it is just an instinctual impression that's why I said it seems tonally scummy
to me
: I recognise it's possible others have different impressions of those posts.
Do you think Owen is bussing?
I thought Owen's first vote earlier could have been distancing, the E-1 vote is unlikely to be, though.
So to be clear, my "slip" weighs more than Owen's "tonally scummy" question, correct?
In post 54, ɀefiend wrote:An assumption is made that all Town tells the truth.
(and I dunno where and how much psychology features in your maths but there are certainly possible motivations for town to lie here)
I would like you to give me some examples where town could be motivated to lie. I understand that gambits exist, but I would like you to walk me thru a hypothetical where it could be beneficial. And I also understand that by posting an example, scum will be aware of it. But in a game with potential town-lies, that's an added layer of WIFOM so I don't see the harm in sharing.
weighs more than Owen's "tonally scummy" question, correct?
refers to the post below?
In post 57, Little Green Wheels wrote:I don't necessarily think mass claim is a great idea (appreciate the work, zef). We should just play the game out.
And yes, it says there could be a
maf rolecop
too, but I don't know the utility of one so why worry about it?
I'm trying to understand the rationale for faking a "slip" where you don't know the setup.
In post 110, ɀefiend wrote:I would like you to give me some examples where town could be motivated to lie. I understand that gambits exist, but I would like you to walk me thru a hypothetical where it could be beneficial. And I also understand that by posting an example, scum will be aware of it. But in a game with potential town-lies, that's an added layer of WIFOM so I don't see the harm in sharing.
I'm not here to argue that these would be wise plays, but if a bomb could make a convincing case that they're a super saint, they could avoid getting limmed and bait a NK. The reverse would probably also be true, a super saint wanting to avoid a NK might claim bomb and try to get scum to hammer them.
Granted there are tons of other variables in these scenarios, and they might backfire on town (literally, lol) just as likely as bagging scum, but those are 2 off the top of my head.
The setup just says Mafia roleblocker OR Mafia Doc...
VOTE: Little Green Wheels
In post 57, Little Green Wheels wrote:I don't necessarily think mass claim is a great idea (appreciate the work, zef). We should just play the game out.
And yes, it says there could be a maf rolecop too, but I don't know the utility of one so why worry about it?
In post 83, imaginality wrote:1. You weren't asking about a vote on you.
2. Phrasing. "Explain why to me" rings like someone wanting to understand the reasoning behind the vote. "What's the thinking here" feels a little more like what someone says when they know there are valid reasons to consider them scum and are wondering if the player is voting them for a good reason or is right for the wrong reasons.
That's my gut feel about the phrasing and since it is just an instinctual impression that's why I said it seems tonally scummy
to me
: I recognise it's possible others have different impressions of those posts.
Do you think Owen is bussing?
I thought Owen's first vote earlier could have been distancing, the E-1 vote is unlikely to be, though.
So to be clear, my "slip" weighs more than Owen's "tonally scummy" question, correct?
In post 54, ɀefiend wrote:An assumption is made that all Town tells the truth.
(and I dunno where and how much psychology features in your maths but there are certainly possible motivations for town to lie here)
I would like you to give me some examples where town could be motivated to lie. I understand that gambits exist, but I would like you to walk me thru a hypothetical where it could be beneficial. And I also understand that by posting an example, scum will be aware of it. But in a game with potential town-lies, that's an added layer of WIFOM so I don't see the harm in sharing.
weighs more than Owen's "tonally scummy" question, correct?
refers to the post below?
In post 57, Little Green Wheels wrote:I don't necessarily think mass claim is a great idea (appreciate the work, zef). We should just play the game out.
And yes, it says there could be a
maf rolecop
too, but I don't know the utility of one so why worry about it?
I'm trying to understand the rationale for faking a "slip" where you don't know the setup.
In post 116, imaginality wrote:
The slip was in #38 (first quote above, stating without qualification that there's a mafia doc) not #57 (LGW's attempt to excuse the slip).
Is your read on LGW entirely based on believing that post 38 was a slip?
-- Or here if you just wanna see fae/faer used in context.
