Open 840 - Guardians of the Fortress [Game Over]

[Lukewarm]

He didn't?

He wanted me to vote Ari, with a back up of pav having voting power.

[VP Baltar]

My overall assessment of RH9's reads are off the charts scummy...but almost so far it makes me wonder if he's town?

RH9, or anyone else who has played with RH9, I'd like to see a game or two you've completed as scum.

I have played in Micro 1036, where I only won because GrandpaMo misread the setup and started a wagon on fellow Town.

lol, you have three posts. is this your only scum game?

[Lukewarm]

I feel surest about Ari being town and Luke has said he thinks Ari's town so if it's entirely my call I'd get Luke to vote Ari.
If we do the 'get the scummiest player to choose who to vote' thing I'd get Pav to choose between the other two.

[VP Baltar]

ah right. my bad. Thought there was a post where he wanted ari to do it, but he was saying Pav there as well. Scratch that.

[Tanner]

Interestingly, Ari was hard scum reading Baltar while she was advocating for the Keep to go first (1137). Which is the order that that could make sense as a scum play. Push him hard, get flipped red, hope that clears him. Compare that to imaginality, she pushed him hard and seems to be okay with imaginality flipping first.

1137 is my post?

[RH9]

195 seems odd as though he's trying to please people and it feels fake. However, I have done that as Town before, making it NAI. 260 could be a clarification of a genuine mistake or a deliberate one intended as a reaction test. This is NAI. I find that for similar reasons on why numberQ's and implosion's advice is NAI, it applies to imaginality's 283 too. Most other posts seem NAI too. 691, 971, and 1248 feels like single-minded attack on VP Baltar. 1230 feels like he somehow changed his mind and

thus he realises that he's looking like we are scum together.

Haha wait what with the bolded?

RH9, can you explain whatever you're saying there?

imaginality had Toogeloo as a townlean for unusual reasons. He probably realised the bolded and immediately seemed to have changed his mind after Toogeloo replaced out for unusual reasons. I don't think that he actually read my posts too well because I never said anything about implosion being Town. Only imaginality believed in that which shows that he tried to distance himself away from any associatives between my slot and himself.

[imaginality]

Luke, why do you think imaginality wanted to give Ari the voting power in your game?

You've misread somewhere. I've consistently said I want Ari to be the one voted for (most likely town) or Pav to be the deciding voter (least likely town)

[Lukewarm]

I would like Keep first as well <3

Meant 1133

[RH9]

My overall assessment of RH9's reads are off the charts scummy...but almost so far it makes me wonder if he's town?

RH9, or anyone else who has played with RH9, I'd like to see a game or two you've completed as scum.

I have played in Micro 1036, where I only won because GrandpaMo misread the setup and started a wagon on fellow Town.

lol, you have three posts. is this your only scum game?

Yes. Because there was a global post restriction which was that I could only post one time a day unless the first post I posted in that phase did not contain a vote, which I may place in a second post.

[imaginality]

/me out, back in 6

[Tanner]

Interestingly, Ari was hard scum reading Baltar while she was advocating for the Keep to go first (1137). Which is the order that that could make sense as a scum play. Push him hard, get flipped red, hope that clears him. Compare that to imaginality, she pushed him hard and seems to be okay with imaginality flipping first.

The approach with Baltar would have had the potential to win both games. The approach with imaginality tanks one game to win the other. I don't really see the need for Scum!Ari to make that drastic switch when Gate->Keep likely won her the game with her prior approach.

could you explain this to me? because based on the colours, i'm assuming you're saying you think she'd be partnered with imaginality, but i don't get how you come to that conclusion if your read is "the approach with imaginality wins one and tanks the other"?

[Lukewarm]

Luke, why do you think imaginality wanted to give

Ari

Pav the voting power in your game?

To answer this question, there are three possibilities.

He is town, and thinks that Ari had the most negative assossiatives with you and least likely to be partnered with you. Which, relatable.

He is scum with Ari, and this wins the keep

He is scum with Pav, and he is scared to call pav town at any point (and they really did sent the DArby slot to the keep to die)

[Lukewarm]

Interestingly, Ari was hard scum reading Baltar while she was advocating for the Keep to go first (1137). Which is the order that that could make sense as a scum play. Push him hard, get flipped red, hope that clears him. Compare that to imaginality, she pushed him hard and seems to be okay with imaginality flipping first.

The approach with Baltar would have had the potential to win both games. The approach with imaginality tanks one game to win the other. I don't really see the need for Scum!Ari to make that drastic switch when Gate->Keep likely won her the game with her prior approach.

could you explain this to me? because based on the colours, i'm assuming you're saying you think she'd be partnered with imaginality, but i don't get how you come to that conclusion if your read is "the approach with imaginality wins one and tanks the other"?

Those colors should be swapped. I originally had baltar red, imaginality green. But decided to change them to orange and yellow to show I was less certain on the assosiatives then the red / green ones, but apparently flubbed the color switch.

[Lukewarm]

wait
dont migraine post. Colors are hard

[RH9]

My overall assessment of RH9's reads are off the charts scummy...but almost so far it makes me wonder if he's town?

RH9, or anyone else who has played with RH9, I'd like to see a game or two you've completed as scum.

I have played in Micro 1036, where I only won because GrandpaMo misread the setup and started a wagon on fellow Town.

lol, you have three posts. is this your only scum game?

Yes. Because there was a global post restriction which was that I could only post one time a day unless the first post I posted in that phase did not contain a vote, which I may place in a second post.

But I've been scum off-site on mafiagg and EM.

[Lukewarm]

Those colors should be swapped.

This is true for the quote you grabbed. Guess i flubbed the colors out the gate.

The change from red/green to orange/yellow was under pav.

I am going to bed.

Good night all

[Lukewarm]

This is what I get for trying to use this sites text color system at all. Its what I deserve

[Tanner]

ok but who is scum if ari is town then? i still don't get it

[VP Baltar]

My overall assessment of RH9's reads are off the charts scummy...but almost so far it makes me wonder if he's town?

RH9, or anyone else who has played with RH9, I'd like to see a game or two you've completed as scum.

I have played in Micro 1036, where I only won because GrandpaMo misread the setup and started a wagon on fellow Town.

lol, you have three posts. is this your only scum game?

Yes. Because there was a global post restriction which was that I could only post one time a day unless the first post I posted in that phase did not contain a vote, which I may place in a second post.

But I've been scum off-site on mafiagg and EM.

How many times would you say you've been scum?

[Tanner]

luke having a migraine and me being drunk and tired, i bet this conversation looks very fun to an outsider

[Tanner]

ok but who is scum if ari is town then? i still don't get it

who is scum if ari is scum

aaaaaaah

[VP Baltar]

luke having a migraine and me being drunk and tired, i bet this conversation looks very fun to an outsider

hammer you coward

[Tanner]

are you *trying* to give me a stomach ulcer, because it's working

[RH9]

My overall assessment of RH9's reads are off the charts scummy...but almost so far it makes me wonder if he's town?

RH9, or anyone else who has played with RH9, I'd like to see a game or two you've completed as scum.

I have played in Micro 1036, where I only won because GrandpaMo misread the setup and started a wagon on fellow Town.

lol, you have three posts. is this your only scum game?

Yes. Because there was a global post restriction which was that I could only post one time a day unless the first post I posted in that phase did not contain a vote, which I may place in a second post.

But I've been scum off-site on mafiagg and EM.

How many times would you say you've been scum?

I didn't count but I guess about 5 or more.

[Lukewarm]

If X then Y

If Ari flips red

Gate

-

Imaginality

Baltar

--

If Pav flips red

Gate

-

imaginality

,

Baltar

I think the only issue in the of post was the color you just pointed out