Holiday Dance Party ---- Game Over
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oh this is gonna take me a while probably
why do you think RH9 is never scum again
I still have half a mind that Alyssa/RH9 could be the best pair"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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do we think this was all town until the self-hammer, Y/NIn post 4060, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Marcistar - Not_Mafia [9] -Save The Dragons, Alyssa the Lamb, Datisi,GuiltyLion, Ydrasse,Taly,Not_Mafia,Firebringer,Marcistar
my instinct says no"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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you can take the green color off me if y'all want it just makes the point stronger
I can't remember the last time I saw 8 town votes onto scum in the first wagon in a Large"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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gl, the unflipped people are from all of the three remaining pairs >_>I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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yeah but if we can conclude at least RH9 is definitively town that helps a lot"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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In post 6062, Something_Smart wrote:Well, my pet theory is that the IC almost always dies if they're partnered with town.
Taly should give his thoughts on Ydrasse, of course, but I don't feel like that pair should be endgaming.In post 6074, Something_Smart wrote:I do not think that having voted Andante makes anyone town when it was known that FB was going to leave.In post 6076, Something_Smart wrote:It makes Shiro look better, for sure. But not "damned obvious".In post 6183, Something_Smart wrote:
Seems to me that this mostly comes down to whether Shiro is scum. If he is then we're going to have a real hard time killing him if you and Taly are both gone.In post 6181, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:I think the endgame with both our pairings gone is very sketchy in generalIn post 6382, Something_Smart wrote:After Shiro/HQ my tentative flip order would be Taly/Ydrasse -> GL/Dats -> RH9/Alyssa, I guess.
But I'm definitely willing to listen to Taly and Alyssa, my reads this game have not been super strong or super good.
I have very strong doubts that S_S pairs himself and his partner like that, I strongly believe that the best plan here was to stick to the S_S/Galron endgaming plan while setting up his partner to endgame if he winds up dying firstIn post 6385, Something_Smart wrote:I'm not opposed to switching around the first two. I still feel like my pair is the best chance to endgame but if not then it would probably be RH9/Alyssa.
If Ydrasse is scum, then my previous thoughts about why Titus/STD was killed still remains as true.
If Datisi is scum, then the scumteam were probably hoping that they would win the 1v1 against the Shiro/HQ hydra, with them losing that giving a much harder endgame; although it's not inherently impossible since they can reasonably expect that Taly and I would both not endgame there.
If RH9 is scum, then they can expect that whoever wins the 1v1 would be the next flip, and then they would have to hope that Taly can be convinced to leave Ydrasse, which I guess is a reasonable assumption
my other question is why S_S felt the need to go the path he did; I don't think there's very good odds that he was faking the stress he was expressing towards the end, so I think that he was legitimately feeling desperate-
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rereading the first 20 pages so far also makes me feel good about Alyssa town, I remembered the whole RH9 seems okay comment and it makes sense with her whole philosophy around pairing with a nullread and never endgaming
ironically, if we can just all agree RH9 is town, that's the pair I want to endgame"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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BRUH DO I JUST LEAVE.
CAUSE IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GAMEPLAY, IT IS INYDRA/RH9
BUT I JUST DON'T SEE WHY SCUM-YDRAATE THO."Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
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"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
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why do you find the ate clearing
that's like, the one part of her play i find completely naiI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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I annotated my 3059 with colours from the flips.In post 3059, RH9 wrote:In post 3000, Taly wrote:Everybody, rank each pair (except mine - calling IC privilege) on how likely you believe scum resides in them.T/T- Datisi & GL / RH9 & Alyssa / &ShiroHarley Quinn
- &STD/Titus&GalronS_S
- &Marcistar/Norwee&FirebringerAndante
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I don't think I can point to this readslist and say with confidence that it's scummy in and of itself, but it is a lil eyebrow raisingly convenient that there's one scum in each tierIn post 418, Ydrasse wrote:taly
galron, gl,lld
datisi
catboi, prism,andante
rh9,dragons,cabd,mala
alyssa,fb,marci"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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she said something late-game as town inIn post 7086, Datisi wrote:why do you find the ate clearing
that's like, the one part of her play i find completely naiSlaughter Hourthat just stuck to me
it involved her input onHQ!scum flip, about why would scum AtE so much
and when i challenged her inAnythin Upickshe seemed to snap which i found to be town indicative and that later became true."Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
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i coloured this in since colouring old readlists seems like the thing all the cool kids are doing nowIn post 2055, Datisi wrote:here are my reads that have a 120% chance of aging absolutely horribly:
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yes i am aware i need more scumreads it is what it is
Spoiler:I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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Datisi being scum would explain why my pair seemingly couldn't get limmed yesterday when it was a freebie"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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but I feel like S_S would be game planning around scum!Datisi going down, not trying to drag Datisi to endgame with him
and if S_S was bussing Datisi he could have done it like 10x more convincingly with voting us out and shit"I think I no longer believe in monsters as faces in the floor or feral infants or vampires or whatever. I think at seventeen now I believe the only real monsters might be the type of liar where there's simply no way to tell. The ones who give nothing away"-
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idk why y'all think i call out s_s if he's my partner for trying to stick to consensus and call that scummy, when because of that i would have to keep townreading ydra and taly and go head to head with alyssa and rh9 who everyone is townreading, including my dance partner
but okayI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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also reminder that i still do not pair with guiltylion as scum because he was under immense heat for like the entire game
at that point in the game, scum me is heavily planning to endgame and i don't hinder myself by pairing with someone who (1) knows my town and scumgames very well and (2) is being scumread by the vast majority of the gameI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M-
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