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VP Baltar · Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:53 am

In post 1556, Something_Smart wrote:I feel like there was someone on the scumteam who was highly in tune with the game and was basically telling Lap "you're dead, stop posting".

And this person was????

ISO · Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:54 am

In post 1571, MathBlade wrote:I already went through how it’s not for all possibilities. It’s NAI for either

Can you link this? Can't find it in your ISO.

Frogsterking · Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:54 am

In post 1570, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1567, Frogsterking wrote:Do you see any reason to rule out a VP / IV team?
Didn't VP confirm Math as town? That would be a weird thing to do, but I guess it's not
impossible
.

Like especially if from scum!VP's point of view Math is basically cleared already, or at least VP is expecting town to view Math that way.

Aristeia · Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:54 am

In post 1574, MathBlade wrote:That is me reading the game.
Up til that point your votes have been naked and you’ve spent you’re entire ISO buddying Dat.

Maybe catch up to present time before you start talking shit about how I haven't done anything.

ISO · Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:55 am

In post 1575, VP Baltar wrote:And this person was????

I would have to do a lot of unpleasant reading to have a chance of answering this, but looking for people who jumped on the Lap wagon pretty early is probably a good start.

ISO · Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:55 am

In post 1577, Frogsterking wrote:Like especially if from scum!VP's point of view Math is basically cleared already, or at least VP is expecting town to view Math that way.

How so?

VP Baltar · Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:56 am

In post 1579, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1575, VP Baltar wrote:And this person was????
I would have to do a lot of unpleasant reading to have a chance of answering this, but looking for people who jumped on the Lap wagon pretty early is probably a good start.

I'm afraid reading is going to be required at this point unfortunately

MathBlade · Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:56 am

In post 459, Laplacian wrote:
In post 455, VP Baltar wrote:I don't know Laplacian's alignment, but he makes me laugh.
I aim to please

This post doesn’t seem SvS.

ISO · Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:57 am

In post 1581, VP Baltar wrote:I'm afraid reading is going to be required at this point unfortunately

Guess I'm getting detention, then.

MathBlade · Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 5:58 am

In post 474, House wrote:
In post 470, Frogsterking wrote:Hey guys I read Lap's most recent posts as pr so don't wagon him please if he doesn't seem to be town telling.
There is literally zero town motivation in this post.

Hey I agree with House here!

Ari Frog?

Frogsterking · Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:01 am

In post 1584, MathBlade wrote:
In post 474, House wrote:
In post 470, Frogsterking wrote:Hey guys I read Lap's most recent posts as pr so don't wagon him please if he doesn't seem to be town telling.
There is literally zero town motivation in this post.
Hey I agree with House here!

Ari Frog?

Not true:

I didn't scum read Lap yet and his posts were putting me on tilt so I wanted to try and get him night killed.

Datisi · Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:02 am

In post 1562, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1560, Datisi wrote:i don't think it required a galaxy brain from the scum side to realize that is going to flip
I don't think it was set in stone though, or at least I didn't, not to the point where radio silence and antispew is preferable to at least trying to stir up some chaos.

you're talking about a newbscum spewing chaos

dude was too afraid to respond to frogs's case because it was gonna spew frogs town even harder, and i recall lapla being online

i think it's not unlikely he just froze

MathBlade · Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:02 am

In post 524, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 520, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 517, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 508, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 504, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 503, VP Baltar wrote:
In post 501, innocentvillager wrote:Why do you think these responses are towny? The Datisi one I can maybe maybe see, but definitely not the VP Baltar one.
Counterpoint, mine was the towniest answer.
Why?
Because that is what I would do as scum. Take the survey and just tank the results by lying.
Idk maybe, that feels way too first order though. I think scum could approach this in more ways than just that. Maybe it's because I got here late after he posted the survey, but I don't really feel there's that much benefit for scum to take the survey at all.
I already proved it isn't effective by pulling his reads from the last game he used it in.

Posting it is NAI at best imo. It isn't going to lead to actually catching scum, and that's my main problem with it. If he's town, I'd like to dissuade him from pulling this in future games.
That's not how math works - if I claim to have a model that predicts a 50% event with 75% probability and I predict wrong in one instance, that doesn't prove my model is trash.
In post 521, skitter30 wrote:ok vp's town
Okay, why?

Okay I am pausing here to do some fun stuff.
The bad math makes me want to cry.

Frogsterking · Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:10 am

In post 1586, Datisi wrote:
In post 1562, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1560, Datisi wrote:i don't think it required a galaxy brain from the scum side to realize that is going to flip
I don't think it was set in stone though, or at least I didn't, not to the point where radio silence and antispew is preferable to at least trying to stir up some chaos.
you're talking about a newbscum spewing chaos

dude was too afraid to respond to frogs's case because it was gonna spew frogs town even harder, and i recall lapla being online

i think it's not unlikely he just froze

I can confirm he was online.

It's possible we're dealing with a situation where the weakest link just got busted D1 and scum team being experienced and maybe not in a great position to bus, decided to stay off the wagon, expecting us to look be looking there anyway.

If you look qualitatively at the way the day actually went it makes sense for it to be an off wagon day.

Frogsterking · Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:13 am

In post 1580, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1577, Frogsterking wrote:Like especially if from scum!VP's point of view Math is basically cleared already, or at least VP is expecting town to view Math that way.
How so?

Because of the replacement thing, and VP taking time to see how people are reacting to Math before saying anything.

House · Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:14 am

In post 1565, Something_Smart wrote:I think it's very odd that House and IV townread each other after neither of them died.

Scum don't play along with fake Mason claims.

iv picked up what I was laying down.

Datisi · Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:14 am

was anyone actually thinking a50's slot was cleared because of the force-repout? i sure wasn't

Frogsterking · Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:15 am

In post 1590, House wrote:
In post 1565, Something_Smart wrote:I think it's very odd that House and IV townread each other after neither of them died.

Scum don't play along with fake Mason claims.

iv picked up what I was laying down.

They don't?

Frogsterking · Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:15 am

In post 1591, Datisi wrote:was anyone actually thinking a50's slot was cleared because of the force-repout? i sure wasn't

I wasn't, but i was considering it less likely to be scum.

Frogsterking · Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:17 am

In post 1582, MathBlade wrote:
In post 459, Laplacian wrote:
In post 455, VP Baltar wrote:I don't know Laplacian's alignment, but he makes me laugh.
I aim to please
This post doesn’t seem SvS.

Have you reached the VP and S_S banter yet?

Frogsterking · Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:20 am

Outworld/lap/skip seems like a reasonable proxy solve until VP doesn't night flip.

House · Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:20 am

In post 1592, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1590, House wrote:
In post 1565, Something_Smart wrote:I think it's very odd that House and IV townread each other after neither of them died.

Scum don't play along with fake Mason claims.

iv picked up what I was laying down.
They don't?

Players like Firepup & RC might, because they're chaotic shitstorms that get townread for being wild & crazy... but those are notable exceptions to the rule.

My play put a huge ass spotlight both on my own head and the guy I claimed as a partner with no way to coordinate the gambit with beforehand.

That takes some trust to just blindly play along with, because iv had no idea if I was laying a trap for him, or what the fallout would be when I retracted my claim.

Fake Mason claiming is not a survival tactic. It's a sacrifice play.

Frogsterking · Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:23 am

In post 1596, House wrote:
In post 1592, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 1590, House wrote:
In post 1565, Something_Smart wrote:I think it's very odd that House and IV townread each other after neither of them died.

Scum don't play along with fake Mason claims.

iv picked up what I was laying down.
They don't?
Players like Firepup & RC might, because they're chaotic shitstorms that get townread for being wild & crazy... but those are notable exceptions to the rule.

My play put a huge ass spotlight both on my own head and the guy I claimed as a partner with no way to coordinate the gambit with beforehand.

That takes some trust to just blindly play along with, because iv had no idea if I was laying a trap for him, or what the fallout would be when I retracted my claim.

Fake Mason claiming is not a survival tactic. It's a sacrifice play.

Fair enough.

Aristeia · Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:24 am

In post 1591, Datisi wrote:was anyone actually thinking a50's slot was cleared because of the force-repout? i sure wasn't

I thought the post he got force repped for felt pretty townie.

The actual force rep is nai imo.

Frogsterking · Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 6:34 am

In post 1584, MathBlade wrote:
In post 474, House wrote:
In post 470, Frogsterking wrote:Hey guys I read Lap's most recent posts as pr so don't wagon him please if he doesn't seem to be town telling.
There is literally zero town motivation in this post.
Hey I agree with House here!

Ari Frog?

Btw do you really look at the posts between VP and Lap and say "yeah this doesn't look s v s", and then you look at my relationship with Lap's slot and think to yourself "yeah yeah s v s seems legit" ? What kind of scum teams have you been running that you think it's probable we would post shit theater together as a plan?