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Post Post #4400 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:04 am

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In post 4396, Cephrir wrote:I hate to admit this thing that doesnt support my views but if tet were killed for reads, he wasnt a big fan of std or andante
no one ever said tet was killed for reads. i think tet was killed bc scum team thought they were a pr. i'll have to reread but that's the vibes i get.

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Post Post #4401 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:05 am

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In post 4397, Cephrir wrote:
In post 4395, The Three Bears wrote:Ircher calls 3 of 4 flipped town, scum.
It's highly likely that neutral scum is all town though if there was one that wasn't, i'd say it's mastina since I have also heard massy is more inactive as scum. I think neutral town is all town.
So the whole scum team is in leaning town, null and the people not put in the list.

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Ircher knew he was going down at this point and that post is pure unadulterated wifom and should be ignored
cabd would disagree.

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Post Post #4402 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:05 am

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tellin u ceph. we gonna need to duke this out 1 way or the other cuz theres no way we both make it 2 endgame n ur faction has a fun time whatever ur faction is. like 1 of us is goin down either way.
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Post Post #4403 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:07 am

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In post 4400, The Three Bears wrote: no one ever said tet was killed for reads.

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also ur wrong noraa I 100% AM SAYIN THAT
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Post Post #4404 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:08 am

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idk why i kept the signature there like i guess i felt that was important????????? wtf.
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Post Post #4405 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:09 am

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In post 4397, Cephrir wrote:
In post 4395, The Three Bears wrote:Ircher calls 3 of 4 flipped town, scum.
It's highly likely that neutral scum is all town though if there was one that wasn't, i'd say it's mastina since I have also heard massy is more inactive as scum. I think neutral town is all town.
So the whole scum team is in leaning town, null and the people not put in the list.

-noraa
Ircher knew he was going down at this point and that post is pure unadulterated wifom and should be ignored
this is the only correct stance on the matter

also preflipping people as green is LMAO
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Post Post #4406 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:10 am

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In post 4405, catboi wrote:also preflipping people as green is LMAO
theres a reason why even my own slot is not the same shade of green as the flipped town ... :/

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Post Post #4407 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:10 am

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In post 4400, The Three Bears wrote:
In post 4396, Cephrir wrote:I hate to admit this thing that doesnt support my views but if tet were killed for reads, he wasnt a big fan of std or andante
no one ever said tet was killed for reads. i think tet was killed bc scum team thought they were a pr. i'll have to reread but that's the vibes i get.

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Mush literally just accused me of this so actually someone did say that
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Post Post #4408 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:11 am

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In post 4402, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:tellin u ceph. we gonna need to duke this out 1 way or the other cuz theres no way we both make it 2 endgame n ur faction has a fun time whatever ur faction is. like 1 of us is goin down either way.
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Post Post #4409 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:23 am

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whew well we all had some fun telling each other we're gonna 1 v 1 them and looking at ircher's garbage read list

but now let's get back to what truly matters and that's running up roden or dunn
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Post Post #4410 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:25 am

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In post 1832, Dunnstral wrote:I'm seconding wanting to know why we should vote for Ircher
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Post Post #4411 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:25 am

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there's my slam dunk case
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Post Post #4412 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 9:53 am

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Post Post #4413 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:40 am

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In post 4350, Save The Dragons wrote:if anyone wants me to say anything more than "i disagree with everything presented here" to roden's case on me let me know!
I do because you got caught lying multiple times and you're now trying to brush it under the rug and ignore it.
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Post Post #4414 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:41 am

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can you enumerate all the lies i've told
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Post Post #4415 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:41 am

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i see one in your post and it's because i changed my mind between post 560 and post 3172 because new information came to light
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Post Post #4416 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:51 am

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i don't understand how you can't be bussing both days for your other "lie" i told

like? just because tet doesn't think it's scum theatre doesn't mean that it's not?
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Post Post #4417 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:55 am

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In post 4350, Save The Dragons wrote:if anyone wants me to say anything more than "i disagree with everything presented here" to roden's case on me let me know!
In post 4357, The Three Bears wrote:Grendel and thewayitends, pressure consistent throughout the day. barely any counter wagons. basically just get flashwagoned.
ircher: ten different wagons get brought up. lots of resistance
Dunn: wall cases on five different people, ten counter wagons

-noraa
You put into words what I've been thinking but couldn't figure out how to say.

Idk the vote count but I'll vote Dunn if he isn't at E-1.
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Post Post #4418 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:55 am

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In post 615, Ircher wrote:
In post 500, mastina wrote:For the record, this is bad modding as it has a direct influence on the game, namely?

I'm conftowning both LLD and Three Bears from it.
I agree it's (rather minor imo) mod influence, but this is just silly.
In post 522, Roden wrote:I hate the RVS analysis posts. They made my eyes glaze over and it just read as information-over-analysis to me. It's typically a town tell to me, but there's a thin line between actually town telling and just LAMIST serious analysis posts.
I don't understand. How are they, in this specific instance, not a town tell. What makes Greeting's posts different from the general case of information instead of analysis?
In post 539, MUSHSHAGANA wrote:Like a scumslip doesn't have to be fuckin binary it can be on a sliding scale and tbh probably usually IS on a sliding scale
No. People on this site treat scum slips as meaning >99% chance of coming from scum, so it is effectively binary. If it isn't that confident an identifier, then a different term should be used (or perhaps no buzzwords at all).
In post 549, Greeting wrote:So much confidence and putting up a whole readslist after so much meme-ing and fluff that was in this game?
This is unfortunately what mastina does at the beginning of the game. I wouldn't put much stock into its accuracy, but it's not alignment indicative for mastina.
In post 566, Roden wrote:I don't think LLD and Greeting are aligned because I town read one and scum read the other.
That seems circular to me. What are you town reading about Lady Lambdadelta?
In post 591, Roden wrote:That isn't what I said. Scum reading someone no matter what they say or do, and explicitly making it clear that that's what you're doing, isn't a real attempt at reading somebody.
That isn't what happened? I think Cephrir and Save the Dragons have done a good job outlining their reads on you and explaining why it makes you scum. I don't fully agree with the conclusions, but that doesn't discount that they have valid points. (My main qualm with immediately jumping to Roden scum here is that doubling down isn't solely a scum trait. Town do it often too. I know there are other aspects like the Greeting read, but I just don't feel it is definitive enough evidence towards scum!Roden.)
In post 599, Roden wrote:I always find it funny when previous scum buddies see my playstyle and thought process in detail, then see me act the complete opposite in another game and accuse me of being scum lol.

By funny I mean tiring.
Posts like these aren't helping your case, but on the flip-side, I would expect most scum to try to be more agreeable, so again, it's kinda net neutral.
In post 1004, Ircher wrote:
In post 773, Save The Dragons wrote:roden's using ate "woe is me" and needling using words like "inane" to try and attack the points against him without actually refuting those points. it makes it look like they weren't legit points to begin with. instead of answering, he doubles down on this narrative.

how are people like "well i guess that could come from town"
Because townies have done this in the past. Have you ever played with Robbnva/Jake From State Farm before? He used to do this kind of stuff all the time regardless of alignment. To be clear here, I think it does come out as slightly +scum equity, but it is very marginal as townies are equally keen to double down when they are wrong.
damn he's really burying you here

such jab

much scumread
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Post Post #4419 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 10:57 am

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In post 2810, Roden wrote:I was hoping someone would notice this first. Ircher has been ignoring most people who try to case him, only ever replying to people he thinks are easy to out-argue.
does ircher ignore you at the beginning of day 2 or not

you're the one who accused him of ignoring you, so why am i suddenly the one who's "caught" saying he was ignoring you
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Post Post #4420 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:08 am

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if you're town i want to shake you

you signed up for a mafia game

you get scumread in mafia games

it happens

i apologized twice for how you're feeling because i'm not intending to make you feel bad

i like gnosia and think your raqio avatar is neat

but that's the way it is

nowhere am i making you question your sanity that's absurd

and if you're scum miss me with that shit
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Post Post #4421 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:46 am

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In post 4414, Save The Dragons wrote:can you enumerate all the lies i've told
Idk if you know this but I made a post a post that does what you're asking for.
In post 4415, Save The Dragons wrote:i see one in your post and it's because i changed my mind between post 560 and post 3172 because new information came to light
You mean like Ircher's red flip? Lol. You kept saying even after he flipped that you expected him to be town.
In post 4416, Save The Dragons wrote:i don't understand how you can't be bussing both days for your other "lie" i told

like? just because tet doesn't think it's scum theatre doesn't mean that it's not?
You're doing that thing again where you're moving the goal posts instead of just admitting you're wrong. You went from "you ignored each other" to "well you ignored each other at first and then bussed him at the last second" to "idk why you can't be bussing him both days". Like you're blatantly just trying to fit the pieces together to frame my actions as scummy. I'm scum if I didn't bus and I'm scum if I did. I'm scum if Ircher flips green and I'm scum if he flips red. You aren't trying to read me.

STD you realize saying "just because Tet said so doesn't mean they were correct" also applies to you, right? You can't come up with a solid consistent reason for why I'm scum and it's gotten to the point where you're essentially just saying "just trust me" as if that's supposed to mean anything. Why are you more trustworthy than conftown who literally gave you evidence that you ignored?

Furthermore, both NK targets town read me and defended me, and also scum read you. Why do you think that I kill them but leave you alive? Why do I kill the people on my side and leave the people who are against me alive? Because that's not even WIFOM, that would just be objectively bad play.
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Post Post #4422 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:49 am

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In post 4421, Roden wrote:You're doing that thing again where you're moving the goal posts instead of just admitting you're wrong.
like you've never done this in this game mr. "they're not aligned oops takesybacksy"
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Post Post #4423 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:51 am

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In post 4421, Roden wrote:i see one in your post and it's because i changed my mind between post 560 and post 3172 because new information came to light

You mean like Ircher's red flip? Lol. You kept saying even after he flipped that you expected him to be town.
i mean like any number of things that happened between post 500 and post 3000

i went back and forth on ircher so many times
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Post Post #4424 (ISO) » Sat Jan 29, 2022 11:53 am

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In post 4421, Roden wrote:You're doing that thing again where you're moving the goal posts instead of just admitting you're wrong. You went from "you ignored each other" to "well you ignored each other at first and then bussed him at the last second" to "idk why you can't be bussing him both days". Like you're blatantly just trying to fit the pieces together to frame my actions as scummy. I'm scum if I didn't bus and I'm scum if I did. I'm scum if Ircher flips green and I'm scum if he flips red. You aren't trying to read me.
nah man if ircher flipped green i would have town read you it's a fact whether you can grasp that or not is up to you

that's where i was at at the end of the day

people can be fluid with their thinking dude

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