Mini 2260: Achromatic Calamity || Game Over

[Greeting]

but you don’t really have to evaluate me anyway

that’s not what i’m saying here

just like, we have to find mafia without one of the major benefit of usual failstates,

and you weren’t doing that, like you know what is behind doors

What do you mean by "usual failstates"?

let’s say we are playing a newbie,

what happens at e-1 when we wagon town day 1? and mafia?

now what happens in this game?

If I'm town and we voted out a townie, I'm looking at the vote tally and analysing the way the players voted and try to figure out information that way. Generally, scum want to look as clean as possible and have townies vote out a scum, so they would spread votes. Sometimes I go after the miselimination wagon, other times I go for players on the remaining wagon(s). I think hard data is more reliable than post content.

If we hit a scum, I strongly focus on players who weren't on the scumwagon as I think bussing a teammate Day 1 is a really bad scum strategy. I will, however, consider the order in which the players on that wagon voted. Like, sometimes scum would just think that bussing is inevitable and they would jump on it to make themselves look cleaner.

There's also a slim probability that the scums adopted a different strategy, but I treat this train of thought as a good starting point and think of whether the scums decided to deviate from it on the way.

It's rare that I'm convinced someone is 100% scum Day 1. Day 1 is most often random or, at times, a trainwreck.

so we don’t have failstate

so we have to find mafia in one go

Except it... just doesn't really happen.

OK I get what you're saying Greeting, but the push being founded out of essentially air can still produce good results.
Ahri isn't going to die over it and atm you are disrupting conversation about the slot.
Just back off a bit, it'll be alright

My experience is that it usually doesn't. I've only once randomly hit scum Day 1 in a game.

[anahit]

no i meant before the elimination, but once again probably shouldn’t be having this conversation

as it is like very extremely important for us to not be horribly wrong here on day one,

like we must avoid worst case situations because uttter disaster

and we also have to believe in ourselves enough on best case to push through,

so your stance as ‘figure it out later’ once again stands out as informed to me,

[anahit]

and like, yes it is possible to find mafia day one it does happen,

but it is probably less likely to have if you aren’t trying to?

[Greeting]

I haven't yet caught up with everything that happened. I'm hoping that tomorrow I'll have the time and energy to reread the whole thread and pick someone who at least seems slightly scummy.

As for the "informed" part, my answer is that I don't believe that I know more about the setup than any other player in this game.

[SirCakez]

We have players like SirCakez who's picking random stuff commenting on it and moving on. No follow-up, no nothing.

Ok but just because I didn't "follow up" doesn't mean it's not developing my reads
People always ding me for this and it's so annoying

[SirCakez]

What is the case on Radical Rat?

Wait I missed this
Why does there need to be a case on page 7?? Wtf??

And speaking of follow up, you dodged this

[SirCakez]

VOTE: dwlee for doing nothing

Is this because you actually think Dwlee's behavior is scummy or just annoyance?

[SirCakez]

I want to freshen up my vote VOTE: greeting

[SirCakez]

I obv disagree but I like Cakez posting for affirming my style choices.
Is there a certain reason you lean towards wrongtown over wrongscum here?

BC Galron was putting himself out there unlike most of this game so far

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Galron

I'll be honest I don't have a read on Galron but I want to put my name next to Isis because she has great taste in clothing therefore she must be making great choices and yes I know this doesn't make any sense but I want to see my name next to hers at least once ~.~

I don't think she can roll red against me twice in a row so I'm going to take my chances.

Yes I know that's not how probability works.

I also don't really care >_>

I think this is pooky town I have a good vibe here

[SirCakez]

I think I will VOTE: Dwlee99.

This is also a crappy vote and it just makes me want to move back to Eden
I think we can do way better for a day 1 elim than Dwlee

[SirCakez]

I agree more posting is good for town, although one big part of it is not wasting time talking about parts that are less relevant.
I'm not entirely sure Mad Hatter's talk so far is genuine, but I'm not discounting the possibility.
Don't find it likely scum would draw that attention to themselves early, but it's possible.

Conclusion: I think I should keep an eye on the Hatter

VOTE: Edens flame
This post is basically a bunch of words that means nothing

it is like, unless i was focused on a partner of edensflame's (so somewhere in {ahri, mad hatters tea party, greeting(?)}) then i think edensflame more or less telling me to try not to get distracted/focus on relevant things/not waste time is probably +town

right outside of the partner being focused on that seems kinda unlikely to come from mafia to me? does that make sense

I don't that that's what Eden was saying though?

But you voted Eden for saying something though.

I voted for Eden for "posting" but not actually saying anything of meaning in this post which anahit then went on a long tangent about it being aimed at them only for it to be confirmed it wasn't

[Greeting]

What is the case on Radical Rat?

Wait I missed this
Why does there need to be a case on page 7?? Wtf??

And speaking of follow up, you dodged this

I thought I already answered this, in posts like 241 or more recently 328.

[Greeting]

I want to freshen up my vote VOTE: greeting

Any particular reason for this?

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Sircakez
This will probably result in a countervote from him but I want to get more cakey posting to look at and then go from there

Nah i have no interest in pushing you rn

[SirCakez]

We have players like SirCakez who's picking random stuff commenting on it and moving on. No follow-up, no nothing.

Ok but just because I didn't "follow up" doesn't mean it's not developing my reads
People always ding me for this and it's so annoying

Because of this

What is the case on Radical Rat?

Wait I missed this
Why does there need to be a case on page 7?? Wtf??

And speaking of follow up, you dodged this

And this

[Greeting]

So it’s OMGUS. Except I never even scumcased you for this, just merely commented on the behavior. As for your complaint for people pinging you for this, my guess is that the logical solution would be to not do it or stop letting it bother you.

This game has not changed my opinion of Day 1 reads. Meh.

[EdensFlame]

I think I will VOTE: Dwlee99.

This is also a crappy vote and it just makes me want to move back to Eden
I think we can do way better for a day 1 elim than Dwlee

I mean who did you have in mind, not seeing anything better especially after Dwlee's last post

[anahit]

not seeing anything better especially after Dwlee's last post

good

[anahit]

(not a comment on dwlee's alignment however)

[SirCakez]

So it’s OMGUS. Except I never even scumcased you for this, just merely commented on the behavior. As for your complaint for people pinging you for this, my guess is that the logical solution would be to not do it or stop letting it bother you.

This game has not changed my opinion of Day 1 reads. Meh.

Your posts are disingenuous and illogical
How is that OMGUS? You didn't even vote me

[SirCakez]

I think I will VOTE: Dwlee99.

This is also a crappy vote and it just makes me want to move back to Eden
I think we can do way better for a day 1 elim than Dwlee

I mean who did you have in mind, not seeing anything better especially after Dwlee's last post

Probably Greeting or you LOL
Or radical rat

[SirCakez]

Maybe Vanderscamp

[Morning Tweet]

Searching for a replacement for Radical Rat. Prodding Ahri.

[Mad Hatters Tea Party]

the constructed nature of the RP

What's this?

pretty sure vanderscamp means how it is difficult to determine if mad hatters posts feel scummy in the way they are constructed because coming from scum or because of their posting style, the alliteration and so forth, which also takes like, similar things to put together

like scum have to like, construct thought processes/create temporal dissonance/give the appearance of being towns et cetera, which if you are looking for like input/output type thing it's more in for same out for the mafias and you can kinda tell in posts sometimes though we as a whole collectively as mafia players as definitely worse at this than any of us give the impression of being during a game (especially me!!!)

but if you are also making your posts sound nice (even at the cost of meaning sometimes) before posting it makes trying to make this sort of determination very difficult

I can assure you the meaning of my madness is quite clear with a little perspective shift.

I have consulted a thesaurus twice, I admit. Though the majority of that which comes forth is straight from my mad knowledgeable mind.
Stated before and stated again, should someone struggle to see the sense in my sentences then then simply ask for a straightforward simplification and I shall surely deliver.

Oh and the guise never drops, but if anything grows and blooms.