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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:42 am

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I don't have strong opinions on Dorsey but
In post 28, Dorsey wrote:Have there been any games where there were no scum slots assigned? Like everyone was town and didn't know it? I want to read that one.
In post 29, Dorsey wrote:Sorry, that really didn't progress this thread at all.
Both of these strike me as towny with one another, moreso on the ladder quote here
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:44 am

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In post 148, Jacket wrote:Feeling was that he'd have more of a reason for an arbitrary wagon vote as scum.
what are you townreading him for, ? i don't think scum would *need* to have an arbitrary reason to move their vote there, especially in the meme stage of the game. and like, umlaut is good enough at scum to think he can get away with a y-1 early i think

i'm not 100% on bugs, if that's what you're asking. but i have decent experience with them, and i do think my ability to read them is above rand, so. will let you know if i sense and changes.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:45 am

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In post 139, Cape90 wrote:I think skiki is definitely town. Proactive in interactions and also I think is a pretty towny response to Dorsey that makes a good amount of sense and I think shiki is relatively easy to follow along with as they are kinda assuming a town leader position as of currently
I ultimately settled on the...francticness as coming from town.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:45 am

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wait, you said arbitrary wagon... point still stands, it's the meme portion of the game, wagoning for the sake of wagoning is a thing, i don't think it's town!indicative, etc.
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:45 am

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In post 128, Micc wrote:
In post 125, Looker wrote:
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Cape90, I hope you know that my vote on you means I personally dislike you and want you to die. You are horrible.
This is not acceptable, even in jest.



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O shit I am so sorry
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My joke was not funny and you didn't deserve that, Cape
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:47 am

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In post 151, Datisi wrote:
In post 148, Jacket wrote:Feeling was that he'd have more of a reason for an arbitrary wagon vote as scum.
what are you townreading him for, ? i don't think scum would *need* to have an arbitrary reason to move their vote there, especially in the meme stage of the game. and like, umlaut is good enough at scum to think he can get away with a y-1 early i think

i'm not 100% on bugs, if that's what you're asking. but i have decent experience with them, and i do think my ability to read them is above rand, so. will let you know if i sense and changes.
I was working with what I had at the time. don't have a problem downgrading the read if other surpass him.
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:47 am

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In post 147, Datisi wrote:
In post 144, Cape90 wrote:is a towny move since it seemed like you were leaning towards scumreading me
i will say that me liking or disliking a post is only talking about what i think of the poster's alignment, not whether i agree with the post
okay. Thanks for clarifying.
I know it varies from person to person. Personally, I can say I like a post and think that a post is good, but could still think that a player is mafia or even go into the territory of being a good post, but also a good post that comes from mafia. I feel like I am rambling and I apologize for that, but if you think about it, there are "bad posts" that can be towny, very easily actually, so if that applies, the inverse also applies IMO
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:49 am

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In post 151, Datisi wrote:
In post 148, Jacket wrote:Feeling was that he'd have more of a reason for an arbitrary wagon vote as scum.
what are you townreading him for, ? i don't think scum would *need* to have an arbitrary reason to move their vote there, especially in the meme stage of the game. and like, umlaut is good enough at scum to think he can get away with a y-1 early i think

i'm not 100% on bugs, if that's what you're asking. but i have decent experience with them, and i do think my ability to read them is above rand, so. will let you know if i sense and changes.
I read as a bit dry/monotone
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:50 am

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In post 154, Looker wrote:
In post 128, Micc wrote:
In post 125, Looker wrote:
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Cape90, I hope you know that my vote on you means I personally dislike you and want you to die. You are horrible.
This is not acceptable, even in jest.



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O shit I am so sorry
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My joke was not funny and you didn't deserve that, Cape
It's okay, if you want me to simmer down my personality, just ask, I have no problems toning it down
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:51 am

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In post 155, Jacket wrote:I was working with what I had at the time.
that's fair. do you have any opinions on his posts past the early y-1?
I will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 10:56 am

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In post 159, Datisi wrote:
In post 155, Jacket wrote:I was working with what I had at the time.
that's fair. do you have any opinions on his posts past the early y-1?
Not particularly.
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:03 am

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hi datisi,

i have been closing all of my brackets for you (hopefully)
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:03 am

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In post 62, Jacket wrote:
In post 61, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 53, Jacket wrote:And for the record, I have no particular reason to try to inspire movement in this game as mafia
What movement do you think you've been inspiring that hasn't revolved around you?
Why does that matter? I generate conversation, I get reads. The fact that the conversation is
about me
would be counter-productive as mafia. As scum I could have easily just lurked and let the game stay slow. The activity as it is is rather uninspired for a blitz.
It matters because it's meaningless to say that you wouldn't inspire movement as mafia if the only movement you're "inspiring" is based around defending yourself.
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:04 am

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In post 63, Jacket wrote:VOTE: vanderscamp

Feels opportunist, catchup is really hollow.
I think it's decently deep for two and a half pages into a game.
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:05 am

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In post 109, Jacket wrote:Dorsey is probably town.
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:05 am

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In post 163, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 63, Jacket wrote:VOTE: vanderscamp

Feels opportunist, catchup is really hollow.
I think it's decently deep for two and a half pages into a game.
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:08 am

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Dorsey, you're doubling down here on suspecting shiki for not voting.
In post 85, Dorsey wrote:yea. u say u suspect cape, but all your questions are for jacket.
Do you think shiki is lying about this?:
In post 78, shiki wrote:
In post 76, shiki wrote:and no of course not but i also do not think it was necessary for me to rvs vote ?
sometimes i rvs, i often do not, and otherwise i vote when i wish for the person i am voting to be eliminated,
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:09 am

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Yeah, Vanderscamp is just scum here.
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:11 am

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No. Absolutely not.
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:11 am

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I think shiki's posts on page four have a towny thought process.
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:13 am

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In post 104, Little Green Wheels wrote:
In post 60, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 46, Umlaut wrote:Yes, exactly that, I just like getting wagons going early.

This is a real vote though, I think you've read everything aimed in your direction as unduly serious in a way that suggests a scummy hypersensitivity.
I agree with this.
Which part are you agreeing with?
The second part.
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:13 am

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In post 132, Datisi wrote:wait, barely more than one day left, and y'all only got 6 pages in? this game needs CPR
I thought there was more time for reaction testing, but I'm figuring out what '"Blitz" means now. Only players I haven't seen really criticized are bugspray and Cape (other than Looker's hate crime)
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:20 am

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In post 134, Cape90 wrote:
In post 71, shiki wrote:
In post 67, Cape90 wrote:I kinda thought they just looked like mafia trying to look busy, but a little later, I am warming up to them, especially with their latest post in 65 and I kinda vibe a bit with the vanderscamp read
hmm
Alright so about your suspicion on me, let us start here, what are you not following here in terms of logic?

I will admit that maybe my read on was a bit shallow, I don't think I really have seen mafia make a post about finding 1 more town for a winning POE. I feel like that would just close off options if the supposed winning POE is wrong. i guess in other words I tend to see mafia try to keep their options more open
it's like,

jacket says 'this the scummiest rvs!'

you disagree with this, but as you've clarified when questioned, this is because you think any reads based on rvs are questionable and that you thought jacket maybe was just trying to look busy, right

but if all reads based on rvs are questionable, and you didn't find any of the other posts scummier than the one pointed out just that you found it scummy for any of them to be pointed out, it's like ... but then why would this be more likely mafia trying to look busy than town moving the game? and what would have been a towny thing for anyone to be doing? continuing to rvs indefinitely?

but sure your post also moving the game so it's like on that level i can see why maybe towny but not why scummy from jacket,

but then jacket is doing coalition thing, and saying, well i have no reason to move game as mafia

and! the awareness of this i would think would make your busy work hypothesis stronger

as jacket was certainly doing things and saying 'i want to have conversations/produce content' but not really taking actions towards this goal but rather the building coalition goal

which was both not encouraging me/bugspray to have a conversation/produce content right, jacket was not really reaching out to us to get a read on us, and was also townreading players for very little without engaging them further just issuing a townread right

so it seems weird to me that you viewed this and thought, ah, that's towny now

and timing of it felt in line with potential mafia reasoning to me as i explained to umlaut
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:23 am

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In post 143, Umlaut wrote:Saying "Oh hey Umlaut is scummy," and then in the same post saying "okay I guess I don't want to murder him yet," and then just up and voting me anyway, is exactly the kind of madness that tells me Datisi is town though.
I think this is a fair take.
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Sun Feb 06, 2022 11:24 am

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In post 150, Cape90 wrote:I don't have strong opinions on Dorsey but
In post 28, Dorsey wrote:Have there been any games where there were no scum slots assigned? Like everyone was town and didn't know it? I want to read that one.
In post 29, Dorsey wrote:Sorry, that really didn't progress this thread at all.
Both of these strike me as towny with one another, moreso on the ladder quote here
How are they towny?...

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