open 841: concgratulations to the winners and losers

[catboi]

don't pull your fucking tough guy routine about how you're going to interrogate everyone on their progressions if you're not willing to answer to scrutiny yourself

[catboi]

you look and only see what u want to see its ok we can win the next one.

[Unv][/unv]

I was putting up a charade to see how skitter spews thinking shes clear but shes deadset on alyssa as her push.

what

[Kaiji]

i thoight Andante was a possible town vig bc a)the person shot, i believed by vig, was IV - bc andante was pushing them iirc.

[skitter30]

don't pull your fucking tough guy routine about how you're going to interrogate everyone on their progressions if you're not willing to answer to scrutiny yourself

you look and only see what u want to see its ok we can win the next one.

[Unv][/unv]

I was putting up a charade to see how skitter spews thinking shes clear but shes deadset on alyssa as her push.

Ew, gross

[Kaiji]

don't pull your fucking tough guy routine about how you're going to interrogate everyone on their progressions if you're not willing to answer to scrutiny yourself

Try reading the game!!!!

Ive outted more progression than everyone else combined.

[skitter30]

That was for the latter quote, but i wholeheartedly agree with the first one too

[Datisi]

while i am not a fan of whatever the fuck is going on, i am confused on why skitter characterizes that post as "ew" when to me it looks like koba doing koba things

[Kaiji]

yes i saw midway vote SS, i distinctly remembered how midway treated SS up to that point and looked deeper into it and decided it was partner indicative.

see im not hiding shit

[Something_Smart]

It just occurred to me that if catboi is scum he is probably vengeful.

[Something_Smart]

I mean, maybe it occurred to me before, but it re-occurred to me. I spent the weekend very distracted from this game by marathons and Pokemon Showdown, I apologize.

[Something_Smart]

I also feel like most of this recent discussion is not productive and insomuch as it is productive it's certainly not helpful for me.

[catboi]

It just occurred to me that if catboi is scum he is probably vengeful.

LMAO

how does that make any sense at all

[Something_Smart]

Because otherwise why would vig-Mena fake a guilty on you when he would get PoE'd anyway due to the 1s vig needing to be in a restricted pool

[skitter30]

while i am not a fan of whatever the fuck is going on, i am confused on why skitter characterizes that post as "ew" when to me it looks like koba doing koba things

They're telegraphing they're gonna vote me again

[catboi]

and so the assumption is what, if I do get voted I get to vengekill someone and mena gets outed anyway? That's idiotic.


This is to ignore the fact that I very obviously wouldn't take venge

because I don't usually get eliminated as scum

[skitter30]

This is probably kaiji's towngame

At the very least if the vig is scum he absolutely isnt

This is...points for intellectual consistency, I guess, but I still don't get skitter's argument for not-vig = town

At that point, there were already signs that the vig slot was scum

Kaiji repped in and indicated they werent vig, giving us a pool to find the vig in (+ town, -scum)

And the way they said it kinda belied that they werent caught up / were out of touch with the gamestate / didnt realize the vig would be such a central point of the game (which i think they would realize if they're on a scumteam with a vig)

Or another way of saying this: i dont think they slip not-vig while on a scumteam that contains a vig who shot a town n1

[Something_Smart]

and so the assumption is what, if I do get voted I get to vengekill someone and mena gets outed anyway? That's idiotic.

the assumption is that you get voted and the game goes straight to melo and then Mena fakes a guilty on Dats or someone else in the vig PoE for the win. It does not sound idiotic to me. (Or at the very least, it's less idiotic than you flipping goon and scum still needing another mislim and Mena needing to make up results that don't immediately get him killed.)

[Alyssa The Lamb]

I kinda want to reread Datisi because I had the lurking feeling he's been doing sweet fuckall aside from insisting that he should be town because of taking the same number as pooky but it feels like

if

they were gambiting, it makes no sense for menalque to have been shielded as hard as he was and the more plausible explanation is that scum were afraid of him getting cleared off the flip and didn't want it to happen

otherwise there's no reason it was so hard to flip a 1shot vig who had already fired and who wasn't playing the game

I still think that at best scum were just playing slowly on flipping that slot

I really don't think scum went out of their way to save him really ever

[skitter30]

Both skitter and Datisi have been pushing these shallow wagonomics theories which I hate because I think wagonomics is bunk

Dont think its bunk, it works p well as a tool ime if u know how to read it

I just dont really see a lot of games with a big eod scramble where *none* of the people involved are scum

[skitter30]

ok random but i mixed up skitter and NSG and thought i was skitter for a bit LOL

>.>
that's probably town-indicative, which is a shame cuz i was gonna vote u and idk who to vote now

Oh i forgot abt this, sigh, this is also why i think them thinking they're vig is town indicative

they repped in thinking they had my slot (i.e. number 2), went for vig, but were vt. And from this perspective, they thought andante was vig (and thus double-checked their work, and saw andante makes sense as shooting iv)

This makes *a lot of sense* as a town progression, but makes little sense as a scum progression who knows where the vig is

[skitter30]

VOTE: SirCakez

I think midwaybear is the most likely scum out of the more "active" players

Why'd you vote cakez here (i.e. over mena)?

[skitter30]

kaiji gdi

will vote midway I guess but in my very limited capacity I feel like the difficulty in getting traction on either of cakez/catboi is probably telling given that sleepless/myself/maybe kaiji!slot have all been p easy to run up at one point or another and given that 2/3 are town with potentials for all 3 I wonder if scum are just propping up any alt wagon that comes along while avoiding each other

I need to read cakez/catboi interactions more closely tho, I'm not sure if they make sense as scum teaming or just that they could each be individually

This is a bizarre post in retrospect but idk what to do with it

[skitter30]

andante is first draft pick

andante has a hard on for an IV scum read


andante hero shoots IV and then daystart here talks about the IV shot and sheeping IV.

They're still convinced andante is the vig here

[skitter30]

I dont think catboi is aligned with mena and i really dont think kaiji is dcum so 2/3 in alyssa/ss/dats for me

If i ever had a reason to tr ss that's long gone now

[Datisi]

why is catboi not aligned with mena again?