Mini 2260: Achromatic Calamity || Game Over

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

random.org gives

anahit > vander > radical >greeting > everyone else > hatters > cakez

this is the only mention of vandercamp in her whole iso

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ahri has townreads on 3 flipped town, pushed sircakes, pushed toogeloo.

no interaction or mention of vanderscamp except in a random.org list.

I'm cautiously optimistic that a vcamp elimination just ends the game here.

[Galron]

VOTE: vanderscamp

I thought it was Pooky tbh but I'll sheep the read.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol

I guess I just need Dwlee to rise from the Grave and give me that 3rd Straight Quickhammer on a Baddie.

[Galron]

I know you can drive a bus!

[Galron]

I saw you down at the corner yesterday.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

god i miss my homie dlee

Spoiler: For Dlee Only

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I know you can drive a bus!

I do love a good bus ngl

[Vanderscamp]

VOTE: sircakez and this isn't close for me.


The people who did not vote on Ahri were Ahri, Isis, Cakez, and me.
The people who did not vote on Isis were Isis, Cakez, and Galron.



I definitely think it's a spot scum could have bussed, but I also independently read Cakez as the scummiest of everyone here, and the fact that he voted on neither mafia is really bad, I'll find the post I really didn't like from him.

[Vanderscamp]

I don't know my reads are awful this game
Is Pooky openwolfing?

This one

I found it very hard to believe at the time that this was a genuine take

[Vanderscamp]

I'm not sold on it being Cakez!

I think there's a decent chance it's Galron and I'm not willing to die on this hill.

But unless we're able to come up with a read on Cakez that he's playing out of his scum meta I don't think this is a slot we can leave alive for two lynches.

[EdensFlame]

Personally I feel more inclined to vote cakez here than anyone else
I'll do some rereading though

[Vanderscamp]

I wanted to do something better than Greeting yesterday but I didn't really get back to the the thread. I think Dwlee would have been better than Greeting but Dwlee now seems like it doesn't solve much.

Onwagon scum has some currency given the day as a whole

VOTE: Toogeloo

I think Vanderscamp seems really townie even though I'm paranoid it's somehow carryover from my last game with him.

I think Vanderscamp is saying it's a joke claim but it's an awkward uncomfortable joke claim and I really like psychoanalyzy votes like that.

I townread you even more anahit but I don't understand all of your logic here as of yet

kind of weird thoughts on VCamp I'm scanning her ISO and I don't really understand how she arrives at this read of him

Do you think this kind of weird read would be more likely to be made on a partner, or as part of a read on someone she knows is town?

I do think you're town but I think you went into this iso with the idea that I was the scummiest, and you're looking at the interactions through that lens of me already being suspicious.

[Vanderscamp]

As for why I dropped off, most of the play this game has happened when I've been asleep, particularly these last few days when we've mostly been in night and people have been getting quickhammered when I'm out of thread.
Especially since this game was not super interesting to begin with, it's not a scenario that's conducive to hyperactivity when I have one IRL day where it's day and then it's like three days of night.

[Vanderscamp]

I think Eden and pooky are townier than Cakez and Galron independent of the voting.

I don't actually remember what my read of Galron has been this game, but I remember really disliking what Cakez was saying when Pooky was coming out with the "I have info about this game, we're town and winning" stuff.

[EdensFlame]

Cakez ISO is basically zero interaction with either flipped scum.
Not a great look.


Pooky is an interesting case because the information he gives is just wrong. Like plain just incorrect.

[Vanderscamp]

Did rereading of ISOs and I'm basically here rn:


T
EdensFlame
Cakes
Galron
Vanderscamp.
S


EF has some good moments in her ISO where she pushes Ahri before anyone else really does (631) - she feels genuinely curious and solvy at times - I liked her wagon analysis of tooges saying that Isis/Cakes were the most implicated in 822 and I think her dumbtell about "multiball" wasn't really faked per se, seems like a really weird thing for scum to make up.

SirCakes is a decent gap down from EF and really kind of interchangable almost with Galron - he's just not been the most active in the game which makes it hard to read his thought process but when he bursts in he does seem geniunely somewhat clueless in a way that doesn't make sense if he were plugged into a scum PT (727 795 827 906. Furthermore I think he actually had the belief that I was openwolf quickhammering Ahri-town when he wrote 871. The thing about Cake town is that he's just mislim bait in every freaking game because he doesn't ever take the time to play properly and I kind of think he'd give more of a shit about this game if he were like actually scum and possibly able to avenge his loss to me in Pokemon here. Like this clueless deer in the headlights bullshit I just see way more often from Cake!town.

Galron feels kind of disjointed to me throughout this game. He asks a lot of questions but I'm not really sure where he's ever going with them. There's very little follow-up and I guess I'm kind of missing the deeper layer of thoughts I'd expect to see from Galron. ngl the towniest line I remember from him is 811 which is a mood but like he doesn't really seem motivated to do anything about this.

Vanderscamp just basically kind of dropped off the face of the earth - there's some bad takes in here such as 579 soft defending Ahri that he never really follows up - he's basically feeling like frozen scum during d3/d4 and I think his popin vote on Isis is most likely the bus vote if there is one as she's more or less doomed with me/dwlee both signalling we want her eliminated and edensflame effectively putting her at e-1 . the mandatory comment felt kind of awkward and weird.

How was me saying isis being a mandatory kill awkward or weird?
I think it should have been pretty obvious.

I already disliked isis prior to ahri's flip, and then the guy who dies in the night was talking about isis being lock mafia.
There was a lot of talk at the time about whether or not it was a hard guilty, and it seemed to me like it wasn't, but it also seemed pretty likely to me that there was some kind of mechanical reason why the person (I don't remember who it was) thought this, and arguing with isis or whoever over whether it was a hard guilty or not was just going to be a distraction from killing someone who seemed very likely to be scum regardless of that.

[Vanderscamp]

Cakez ISO is basically zero interaction with either flipped scum.
Not a great look.


Pooky is an interesting case because the information he gives is just wrong. Like plain just incorrect.

Do you mean his stuff about town winning two days ago?

[Vanderscamp]

VOTE: vanderscamp

I thought it was Pooky tbh but I'll sheep the read.

Also, Galron, why are you sheeping the read of the person you thought was scum?

[Galron]

Pooky shifted into tryhard mode.

[Vanderscamp]

Fair!

[SirCakez]

Why do you think that Vanderscamp would bus Isis?

i don't know but I TR everyone else more

Vanderscamp just basically kind of dropped off the face of the earth - there's some bad takes in here such as 579 soft defending Ahri that he never really follows up - he's basically feeling like frozen scum during d3/d4 and I think his popin vote on Isis is most likely the bus vote if there is one as she's more or less doomed with me/dwlee both signalling we want her eliminated and edensflame effectively putting her at e-1 . the mandatory comment felt kind of awkward and weird.

I agree with Pooky's take here - they just feel like dispirited when they should be amped up with a double scum elim

The thing about Cake town is that he's just mislim bait in every freaking game because he doesn't ever take the time to play properly and I kind of think he'd give more of a shit about this game if he were like actually scum and possibly able to avenge his loss to me in Pokemon here. Like this clueless deer in the headlights bullshit I just see way more often from Cake!town.

okay in my defense I'm way too busy IRL for mafia right now and I kinda just want this game to be over because I can't give it what it deserves

[SirCakez]

VOTE: vanderscamp for above reasons

[SirCakez]

this ain't Pooky scum and I haven't thought so all game

[SirCakez]

I'm not sold on it being Cakez!

I think there's a decent chance it's Galron and I'm not willing to die on this hill.

But unless we're able to come up with a read on Cakez that he's playing out of his scum meta I don't think this is a slot we can leave alive for two lynches.

remember not to use the L-word!