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[Galron]

I'm here and something

[Galron]

I am wearing New Balance today.

[Galron]

Aimee Mann is a legend

[Galron]

That extinct organization, was it called The Knights of Hue, as in color, or the Knights of Hue, as in the city my old man was stationed in in Vietnam?

[Galron]

Oh wow shiki is here?

[Galron]

want to play a round of best post/worst post with me?

best post is like, uh, this i guess:

VOTE: isis
Cat

cause is towards someone who had just posted and feels like, not thought about,

worst post is probably this one:

Hello!

VOTE: Radical Rat

because pressure for pressure's sake is actively bad for town here and was immediate second vote on radical rat which would have had to be intentional and is otherwise just empty hello post

okay your turn

Don't know if this has been answered yet, but in rvs, who looks at the VC? If there is one?. Really if you come in late you may get a feel for what the VC should look like, but no more than that This seems more coincidental than intentional.

[Galron]

Galron

, where are you?

Present. I refused to touch a PC, phone or anything over most of the weekend. Well a phone a little bit I think. I was a bachelor all last week, and that makes me a little antsy and throws me out of my usual goings on.

What should I be focusing on in the game so far? I've read a few pages, and I want to stab the Hatters for some reason, maybe because they didn't invite anahit for tea, which would've made for a more pleasant conversation. I'm getting the impression that the Hatters are using colorful language to be intentionally misunderstood. But maybe I'm just not following what they're getting at.

[Galron]

Galron

, where are you?

hm

would the gamestate somehow be different to you if galron had made 1-2 rvs posts like most everyone else?

No, but it'd be nice to see a familiar face.

No, but it'd be nice to see a familiar face.

ah, i too enjoy galron's presence +)

<3

[Galron]

One of my favorite outfits is my longsleeve white with horizontal black striped shirt, black tights, my spongey cottony white shin length skirt, all with black flats with little black bows on them and the white Tori Burch purse my cousin got me for Christmas.

This is an alignment indicative post and I expect Morning Tweet to reset my prod timer to 36 hours from now.

I null read this post.
Double null read it actually.

[Galron]

I strongly disagree with this post!

all posts are either made by mafia or not...

but yeah sometimes i get lost in rabbitholes that's certainly true

I was just thinking that this game so far feels like what could be an episode of Alice in Wonderland

[Galron]

posting is good for town though

okay!

UNVOTE:
VOTE: greeting

I don't dig this vote. Interested to see where it goes.

[Galron]

I am glad to see more systems being more open about their being on this forum

I have a feeling that this is not game related, but it piqued my curiosity, and if it is oog I want to ask about it post-game.

[Galron]

That second vote on Eden's Flame was cringe. I think it was Cakez, but not sure. It seems almost too blatant a jump when the substance of Eden's post was sufficiently cautious for that stage in the game.

[Galron]

Oh and I don't understand the votes on Radical Rat.

[Galron]

And I'm spelling EdensFlame wrong, sorry

[Galron]

I'm here. Gathering will.

[Galron]

Don't know if this has been answered yet, but in rvs, who looks at the VC? If there is one?. Really if you come in late you may get a feel for what the VC should look like, but no more than that This seems more coincidental than intentional.

? the first vote on radical rat was the post immediately preceding greeting's - it felt like an intentional like 'wagons are good!' sort of rvs post

but! very importantly, wagons for wagons sake are not actually good for town here (and towns should be making it so they do not have to be wagoned to be readable and so forth and towns should be finding other ways to sort players)

but all of that isn't so so important more that greeting was kinda like, default rvs posting in a way that would match other games but not this one but not in a way that scum would necessarily notice before posting because scum less likely to realize this than town

I didn't pick up that greeting's vote sequentially was immediately after the other one (mc esther's??), so taking that into account I get your premise but I still disagree with the criticism when I think about the way that I approach a game's entrance. Unless I'm really late like I was here. I generally pick out a name from the plist and just vote there without registering any prior votes or posts even. It just seems to be reading into something that if I find pretty innocuous. But there are those who seem to get reads out of the first couple of pages from people's entrances and rvs banter, so maybe it's just a playstyle thing.

But you're also talking about sorting people outside of wagons, which is like, to me, sorting people outside of meta. It just seems to be the site's culture. No matter how much I try to disregard how someone's played before as whatever alignment, I have a difficult time doing it. Meta creep is inevitable. I'd say they're both valid sorting methods, if inferior.

But also the ding on greeting for posting HELLO aside from the vote doesn't jibe well with me as I look at it. If he had just posted the hello and not voted radical rat, it seems he wouldn't have blended in as well if that was what he was going for. It would've been better to vote someone else. Again, from my experience, I've gotten questioned for not voting anyone in rvs as either alignment, when all I'm doing is acknowledging game start.

That was a lot longer than I anticipated.

[Galron]

And I'm spelling EdensFlame wrong, sorry

This seems a little odd given there weren't all that many posts between the time you voted and I asked the question, and I don't think greeting even saw it.

[Galron]

I agree more posting is good for town, although one big part of it is not wasting time talking about parts that are less relevant.
I'm not entirely sure Mad Hatter's talk so far is genuine, but I'm not discounting the possibility.
Don't find it likely scum would draw that attention to themselves early, but it's possible.

Conclusion: I think I should keep an eye on the Hatter

VOTE: Edens flame
This post is basically a bunch of words that means nothing

it is like, unless i was focused on a partner of edensflame's (so somewhere in {ahri, mad hatters tea party, greeting(?)}) then i think edensflame more or less telling me to try not to get distracted/focus on relevant things/not waste time is probably +town

right outside of the partner being focused on that seems kinda unlikely to come from mafia to me? does that make sense

I don't that that's what Eden was saying though?

But you voted Eden for saying something though.

[Galron]

I don't dig this vote. Interested to see where it goes.

sorry to disappoint, but as im sure youve since noticed -- nowhere!

i mean, this is mostly because greeting's been absent since and others didn't really engage with it, which seems like kinda a strange thing for you to interpret as +town for greeting rather than +mafia,

But did mcesther give greeting townie points?

[Galron]

I agree more posting is good for town, although one big part of it is not wasting time talking about parts that are less relevant.
I'm not entirely sure Mad Hatter's talk so far is genuine, but I'm not discounting the possibility.
Don't find it likely scum would draw that attention to themselves early, but it's possible.

Conclusion: I think I should keep an eye on the Hatter

VOTE: Edens flame
This post is basically a bunch of words that means nothing

it is like, unless i was focused on a partner of edensflame's (so somewhere in {ahri, mad hatters tea party, greeting(?)}) then i think edensflame more or less telling me to try not to get distracted/focus on relevant things/not waste time is probably +town

right outside of the partner being focused on that seems kinda unlikely to come from mafia to me? does that make sense

I don't that that's what Eden was saying though?

But you voted Eden for saying something though.

I meant that you voted Eden for saying nothing.

[Galron]

I agree more posting is good for town, although one big part of it is not wasting time talking about parts that are less relevant.
I'm not entirely sure Mad Hatter's talk so far is genuine, but I'm not discounting the possibility.
Don't find it likely scum would draw that attention to themselves early, but it's possible.

Conclusion: I think I should keep an eye on the Hatter

VOTE: Edens flame
This post is basically a bunch of words that means nothing

it is like, unless i was focused on a partner of edensflame's (so somewhere in {ahri, mad hatters tea party, greeting(?)}) then i think edensflame more or less telling me to try not to get distracted/focus on relevant things/not waste time is probably +town

right outside of the partner being focused on that seems kinda unlikely to come from mafia to me? does that make sense

I don't that that's what Eden was saying though?

But you voted Eden for saying something though.

I meant that you voted Eden for saying nothing.

Now that I've read more, you said that they were just posting a bunch of words that equated to nothing, but then you tell anahit that Eden's Flame was actually saying something.

[Galron]

i mean, this is mostly because greeting's been absent since and others didn't really engage with it, which seems like kinda a strange thing for you to interpret as +town for greeting rather than +mafia,

i just didnt think my vote was doing anything there. i couldve parked it for the next few days to make doubly sure, but that didnt seem worth lol. like. do you want to vote greeting with me?

this makes sense

i guess mostly i was trying to say that greeting still seems one of most likely mafias to me, and that i didn’t want slot to be cleared for today simply because you moved your vote elsewhere, as what happened before you did so was not +town for greeting to me, but i also get trying to do something with your vote et cetera

To be clear, you're read on greeting is coming from his rvs vote. Is that correct?

[Galron]

In what sense do you hold yourself accountable for catch-up? Is it like, I'll catch up because I owe it to the game, or I'll catch up and if I don't I'm scum?

I'm like mostly sure it's the former but I need to prodge because I have ectrolysis tomorrow and might be exhausted and I promise NOT to catchul until I replay Kirby's adventure until I reach the nostalgic black and white level that serves as a callback to the game boy game

Because I owe it to the game. If I'm scum I'm scum, and if I'm not I'm not, regardless of whether I get around to reading.

Something about this answer feels off. Isis was giving you two options, but there are more, like you owe it to yourself so you understand the development of the game for example. It seems you took the easy way out.

[Galron]

I don't see a possible way for me to know what's going to unfold, town or scum, too.

well,

you see, the mafia know the towns and the mafias, and potentially more about the setup and so forth,

and as opposed to my open chapters, they know the possible endings,

like turn to page 72 if you eliminate edensflame!
but turn to page 196 if you eliminate vanderscamp!

but the mafias know what those pages say beforehand,

Take out the middle part and yes. Unless you're talking about a choose your own adventure book, but that would be more +town I guess.

[Galron]

This seems really inductive when the exact identities aren't memorable so I think it's pretty scummy.

I want to understand what you're getting at here. I recalled something because of content, not because of the player, and I thought that content was scummy. And I think you're saying I need to know who made that content (vote) and the rest of the body of their work in order to make that judgment. Am I close?

[Galron]

I have a feeling in my heart of VOTE: galron

I didn't preview my last post so there's probably bbcode wretching

I'm in your heart, so there's that.

[Galron]

the constructed nature of the RP

What's this?

[Galron]

In what sense do you hold yourself accountable for catch-up? Is it like, I'll catch up because I owe it to the game, or I'll catch up and if I don't I'm scum?

I'm like mostly sure it's the former but I need to prodge because I have ectrolysis tomorrow and might be exhausted and I promise NOT to catchul until I replay Kirby's adventure until I reach the nostalgic black and white level that serves as a callback to the game boy game

Because I owe it to the game. If I'm scum I'm scum, and if I'm not I'm not, regardless of whether I get around to reading.

Something about this answer feels off. Isis was giving you two options, but there are more, like you owe it to yourself so you understand the development of the game for example. It seems you took the easy way out.

probably also noteworthy that radical rat didn't actually yet do the thing

Agree with this

[Galron]

Although tbf it's been less than 24 hours

[Galron]

the constructed nature of the RP

What's this?

pretty sure vanderscamp means how it is difficult to determine if mad hatters posts feel scummy in the way they are constructed because coming from scum or because of their posting style, the alliteration and so forth, which also takes like, similar things to put together

I usually drop meme-plays when I try after the first day or two because of this.

[Galron]

anahit, can I ask on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being the most, what was your excitement level immediately prior to this game starting, and what is it now?

[Galron]

With this plist there really isn't a lot of activity, like everyone's blood sugar is down or there's a carnival on the other side of town.

[Galron]

With this plist there really isn't a lot of activity, like everyone's blood sugar is down or there's a carnival on the other side of town.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

i mean, i know i'm probably not supposed to say,

do you not think there might be another reason for this?

but

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

That's exactly what I'm saying. It's not coincidental imo

[Galron]

This seems really inductive when the exact identities aren't memorable so I think it's pretty scummy.

I want to understand what you're getting at here. I recalled something because of content, not because of the player, and I thought that content was scummy. And I think you're saying I need to know who made that content (vote) and the rest of the body of their work in order to make that judgment. Am I close?

Yeah, close enough. It matters less whether the body of work disrupts the assessment as scum because being a visible content mill is more important

The answer confuses me.

[Galron]

I just have a handful of nulls at this point. anahit seems to be a consensus town read, and I'm leaning that way but I'm not wholly convinced. Cakez is content-worthy scum lean, and Toogs' slot is almost anti-content null scum. I think I do see what Cakez was thinking about edensFlame now maybe. I don't understand the read on me by Isis. Pooky isn't very lovable this game. I feel like I've been defending Greeting, but I don't know that I have; I just have played a bunch of games with him recently and haven't noticed much difference, even with anahit's point about putting the cart before the horse, which was interesting. There is some other stuff that I've been thinking that I can't recall right now, and I feel pressured to make a vote.

pedit: VOTE: toogalooVOTE:

I don't want to hammer. I don't know where we're at even though I've read this four times. None of this is making a whole lot of sense to me.

[Galron]

VOTE: toogaloo

It's E-3 I think.

[Galron]

What separates toogeloo from dwlee?

[Galron]

dwlee, are you around?

[Galron]

if i were rousseau

I would advise Rousseau to find a handsome prince or princess, or maybe a frog with potential

[Galron]

What separates toogeloo from dwlee?

theyre not that comparable? like, dwlee would be an "i want to get rid of the lurker" elimination. radical rat (idk about toogeloo) is a scumread.

They each have one read. Dwlee says they can read Cakez, but Cakez has been producing content and Dwlee hasn't mentioned it. Cakez says he can read toogeloo so doesn't want toogeloo until toogs produces more. Toogeloo likes Cakez for town but really hasn't said much more than what is evident, that this is an underplayed game and he has to vote Greeting as a counter to him. Radical Rat's biggest sin perhaps was promising some work then repping out, which may or may not be AI.

There's not a whole lot there.

[Galron]

I think Vanderscamp's ISO is townie

[Galron]

dwlee, are you around?

I can be kinda

Been very busy today. Went sledding

Super jealous. Why did I ever quit?

You were wanting more content from Cakez and I was wondering if you have gotten anything yet?

[Galron]

I think Vanderscamp's ISO is townie

Reading in context isn't as good, but still leaning that way.

[Galron]

dwlee, are you around?

I can be kinda

Been very busy today. Went sledding

Super jealous. Why did I ever quit?

You were wanting more content from Cakez and I was wondering if you have gotten anything yet?

Cakez response to me is kinda NAI and I'm not sure if Cakez is low-key buddying me or actually thinks I'll be more readable later

What about his other content?

[Galron]

that said, my main point here is that i suspect toogeloo's maf, but obviously i dont actually know that for sure, and presumably you dont either. i dont want to eliminate toog's buddy today, i want to eliminate toog and look for their buddy if im proven right.

This makes me uneasy

[Galron]

It could make you uneasy.
Contrarywise it should make you feel assured.

I do apologise, the Tweedle Twins came for Tea and told their tantalising tales to Hare and myself.

*sips tea*

A little cold... anyway.
I am curious as to what makes you ill at ease about the post from our Circular Artisan. The point made is quite simple. Strike at the soul of scum you know, not at the scum you don't.

You aim at your target, not at the one next to them who could well be just an innocent bystander.

As for my opinions, the Monochromatic Bear is an impure wagon. The Fire Fox would do well to elaborate and expand upon her votes upon both The Monochrome Queen and Bear - until so she is one the Bandersnatch will be watching, along with the The Timekeeper and The Curious. The Jailed Songbird is still the best elimination for today, in my opinion.

Is mc esther's progression on Toogs indicative of someone with conviction?

[Galron]

still somewhat confused by what any mafia are doing here if partnered with either wagon

staying home?

[Galron]

what does anyone assume about dwlee/pooky/vanderscamp w/ regards to current wagons

Crickets.

It would be easy to say that one must be a maf, right? But the logic to get there doesn't necessarily hold too well. Their silence is quite loud, though.

[Galron]

It could make you uneasy.
Contrarywise it should make you feel assured.

I do apologise, the Tweedle Twins came for Tea and told their tantalising tales to Hare and myself.

*sips tea*

A little cold... anyway.
I am curious as to what makes you ill at ease about the post from our Circular Artisan. The point made is quite simple. Strike at the soul of scum you know, not at the scum you don't.

You aim at your target, not at the one next to them who could well be just an innocent bystander.

As for my opinions, the Monochromatic Bear is an impure wagon. The Fire Fox would do well to elaborate and expand upon her votes upon both The Monochrome Queen and Bear - until so she is one the Bandersnatch will be watching, along with the The Timekeeper and The Curious. The Jailed Songbird is still the best elimination for today, in my opinion.

Is mc esther's progression on Toogs indicative of someone with conviction?

The inverse is true. Esther is someone who is open about their lack of confidence in this and that people are claiming the confidence to be strong are to be interrogated when Time allows such.

Why the need to broadcast it?

but obviously i dont actually know that for sure

[Galron]

Why the need to broadcast it?

but obviously i dont actually know that for sure

because i was directly answering a question from someone who was actually (or seemed to be) assuming toogeloo's flip in advance?

As I read that exchange again, I can maybe see that but it feels off to me.

[Galron]

I am not sure if my vote is still valid after

Radical Rat

's replacement so in case it isn't then VOTE: Toogeloo.

Unfortunately, I won't be able to read the thread thoroughly as I wanted to. I still do wish to play though. If, somehow, I make it to Day 2, I will contribute more. If not then oh well, farewell. Haven't been gotten my head around this game anyway.

this just feels like such a weak sauce vote
I mean I'm confbiased here I know but c'mon the Toog wagon is ass

I agree w/ your point about the Toog wagon, but Radical Rat did him no favors.

That being said, I don't like my vote on Toog, and I've already stated my piece about Greeting. And it could very well be that I haven't been as critical of Greeting's posts because I'm just used to his style. But I just don't see red there.

[Galron]

I don't understand the purpose of the hammer especially in light of 514.

[Galron]

It may not have mattered, but it was still an action undertaken.

[Galron]

I think that pocketed me, and I'm not even part of it.

[Galron]

I don't understand the purpose of the hammer especially in light of 514.

better question is why it shifted hard to greeting

i hammered because it was going through and i figured with the lack of actual wording dedicated to what exactly happens and how compulsive eliminations happens here as opposed to it being explained to us in previous games that hammering was better than not doing so just to be safe

I guess you're telling me that it's better play to hammer there because that's how you've been trained?

[Galron]

I don't understand the purpose of the hammer especially in light of 514.

better question is why it shifted hard to greeting

i hammered because it was going through and i figured with the lack of actual wording dedicated to what exactly happens and how compulsive eliminations happens here as opposed to it being explained to us in previous games that hammering was better than not doing so just to be safe

I guess you're telling me that it's better play to hammer there because that's how you've been trained?

no? i am trying to tell you that i hammered because, despite knowing there are compulsive eliminations, we were not actually informed as to what happens at deadline without meeting the 7 votes, unlike last morning tweet game

so while it's safe to assume that it works the same, as that seems 99% to me,

the other 1% is like, but what if we were not told for gameplay reasons, which would probably always mean there was incentive for someones to prevent majority, which is pretty much never going to be town aligned

so if it worked like, mafia picks elimination in case of no majority or whatever, then it is better to hammer

so 99% it is the same and 1% it is better to hammer

was pretty much the extent of my thought process

I see where you're coming from now. The hammer itself I thought needed to be addressed, but your initial response confused me. You're talking about MT's games in particular, we don't want a random lim, gotcha. I guess I was just assuming, I know shouldn't do, the lim would fall to the plurality.

[Galron]

VOTE: dwlee

[Galron]

VOTE: dwlee

Speak your truth

I don't know. Just your wagon position on greeting and then you voting edensflame for having a vote on you yesterday. It's pretty weak both ways actually since the more I think about it it seems mafia would be more likely to know they weren't hammering greeting maybe? But I don't know if that logic follows either. But I do think your vote on edensflame is weak. This game is driving me a bit batty as nothing is making sense to me and really hasn't since the beginning other than greeting was town, which I was pretty certain of. Green hat maybe? Have we done that one yet?

[Galron]

I'll throw in that I'm not exactly upset that MadHatters was the night kill because that saves me from trying to decipher their posts. It seems that mafia would have wanted them to live if nothing else but for that reason alone.

[Galron]

My vote isn't on edensflame :^)

Don't confuse me any further, dwlee. It might get ugly.

[Galron]

I know but it was when I voted you

[Galron]

is the general agreement two maf on greeting?

I hadn't thought about this. I don't think I've seen anyone speculate that

[Galron]

i dont think prodding at me with weird points trivially explained by context, or anahit with questions about frankly the least alignment-indicative hammer possible (and then? voting dwlee?) is where he's at as town.

You saying there appeared to be consensus that two scum were on Greeting -- yeah, that's a real question. I see someone else has questioned that same thing. So I don't know why you think it's explained by context or how you came to that conclusion, and not the conclusion that there were two scum on Greeting but that that seemed to be the consensus feeling.

The hammer by ani needed to be explained. I mean, I didn't cotton on to what she did there until she did explain it. And it made complete sense given previous Tweetie games, even if the giving of the explanation itself wasn't strictly AI, although I'd say if true, it's town indicative for her.

Don't pay much mind to my vote on dwlee right now. It's kinda just there as a placeholder until I get my bearings.

Look, I get that I haven't been as active today as I was yesterday, but I've got reasons for that that have nothing to do with this game. Well, little to do with it. At least the pace has picked up a bit from where we were yesterday. Anyway, I may or may not be more active going forward. There's stuff going on IRL, and this hasn't been a priority this week.

From taking a quick look at the past small cap day's posts, I'm still not figuring this game out very well. I'm not a fan of wagoning toogs. I get the impression that they're being wagoned in part because they were the counter to greeting in addition to Radical Rat's play. Both may be valid reasons to wagon them, but it doesn't feel right to me. Right now I'd say my most negative reads are probably on Isis and Pooky but I can't really figure out the words why right now. Ani is probably town, or at least I lean that way.

[Galron]

I'm also starting to feel good about Cakez, but that may be that for the first time ever he's agreed with a post I've made so I dunno.

[Galron]

I also don't understand how people are making just one post that addresses maybe one point (I understand the irony for today here). It's like peeople aren't reading the game and it's frustrating.

[Galron]

I felt good about Cakez day 1 but I feel less good about him day 2, I'm surprised you're inverted Galron

What are you liking?

Pointing on the umpteenth reason to townread anahit seemed kind of more benefitting-to-scum-than-town to me

Well, see that's a problem because I really am not liking anyone other than anahit except for toogs, but that is tempered by their predecessor, and maybe Cakez.

I can certainly why someone with one town read benefits scum, but I can't tell from your post whether you think I'm scum because I have just one town read, because I have just one town read and I've mentioned that I townread her at least twice, because other people have evinced a town read on her and I just needlessly contributed to it or whether you're accusing me of scum-siding at all and I'm just inadvertently helping scum by throwing more laurel-leaves anahit's way.

I'm also wondering what intrigues you about fake pedits. As in whether you've just not thought of the concept prior to what you believe to be an inferred accusation of having done that or something else.

In addition, I'm curious as to why my read of Cakez doesn't align with yours.

And while I'm thinking about it, I need to look at the plist again to make sure I do, indeed, have just one town read because that may have changed. In particular I want to read Cakez because your mentioning of that read to me makes me wonder more things. And now that I think about it, I may have a better handle on this game than what I was thinking a few hours ago.

[Galron]

In addition, I'm curious as to why my read of Cakez doesn't align with yours.

This was supposed to say I'm curious why my read of Cakez not aligning with yours is a concern. But the other question is valid too.

[Galron]

i didnt mention activity and fwiw, i dont think i would ever go after you over activity.

Yeah... that part was actually the start of a new thought and should've been it's own post, it wasn't directed at you so much as at the game. My fault for not splitting that up.

[Galron]

I felt good about Cakez day 1 but I feel less good about him day 2, I'm surprised you're inverted Galron

What are you liking?

Pointing on the umpteenth reason to townread anahit seemed kind of more benefitting-to-scum-than-town to me

Well, see that's a problem because I really am not liking anyone other than anahit except for toogs, but that is tempered by their predecessor, and maybe Cakez.

I can certainly why someone with one town read benefits scum, but I can't tell from your post whether you think I'm scum because I have just one town read, because I have just one town read and I've mentioned that I townread her at least twice, because other people have evinced a town read on her and I just needlessly contributed to it or whether you're accusing me of scum-siding at all and I'm just inadvertently helping scum by throwing more laurel-leaves anahit's way.

I'm also wondering what intrigues you about fake pedits. As in whether you've just not thought of the concept prior to what you believe to be an inferred accusation of having done that or something else.

In addition, I'm curious as to why my read of Cakez doesn't align with yours.

And while I'm thinking about it, I need to look at the plist again to make sure I do, indeed, have just one town read because that may have changed. In particular I want to read Cakez because your mentioning of that read to me makes me wonder more things. And now that I think about it, I may have a better handle on this game than what I was thinking a few hours ago.

I've started feeling like you're town this day phase even though you were one of my stronger scumreads. I don't think you have partners in this game, it seems like, and your reads kind of align with mine some. You disagree about Toog but I can see the other direction on them too? And you feel uninformed enough.

anahit in like the next post is right that i was shading Cakez. The totality of the circumstances for him overemphasizing the townread is off, your mentioning it more than once is fine.

fake pedits intrigue me because I think I just straight up have never considered that you could fake a pedit that it is a thing you could choose to do. Just kind of like. "Wow actually you could play a Goblin Guide and block with it no one actually ever implied you can't do that but like oh you can do that wow" So yes when shiki implied it that was the first I've ever thought of it.

I'm not sure why I was a scum read to begin with, maybe you said it but I don't remember, so okay I guess I need to take a look at that to figure this out.

And now that you and ani have reoriented me on the post re Cakez, I can see where you're coming from but I don't know that it's as concerning as all that, but I'm going to look at it again. I'm not really all that curious as to which of our reads may align, well maybe I am, but I am wondering whether we got there in similar fashion because I don't feel you at all, your presence seems distant? Like when you post generally there's substance but it doesn't feel like you have a dog in the fight. But you're not the only one I can say that of.

[Galron]

I don't see how we're winning. Y'all blew through that toogs lim without taking a breath.

[Galron]

I need to re-read the color. I don't remember the sun coming out.

[Galron]

I was wrong. Pooky may be right. I missed something in one of the opening posts.

[Galron]

I will toss you a bone Dwlee.

I am town and we are currently

winning

Pick a number between 1 and 10.

[Galron]

I'm trying to actually.

[Galron]

VOTE: ahri

[Galron]

I think anahit was scum reading ahri in addition to pooky. That's one reason I'm voting there, but the momentum has me curious.

[Galron]

That no one has claimed to be in a PT leads me to believe that those who have are dead or mafia.

[Galron]

I obviously am oblivious to what's going on.

[Galron]

Where is mcesther a gunsmith?

I am so lost.

[Galron]

We're at 4-1 right?

[Galron]

Why do you think that Vanderscamp would bus Isis?

[Galron]

VOTE: vanderscamp

I thought it was Pooky tbh but I'll sheep the read.

[Galron]

I know you can drive a bus!

[Galron]

I saw you down at the corner yesterday.

[Galron]

Pooky shifted into tryhard mode.

[Galron]

UNVOTE:

Let's make sure this is right.

[Galron]

UNVOTE:

Let's make sure this is right.

Do you think there is any chance of Vander actually surviving today?

I'm thinking it's either Cakez or him. That Cakez was off of both wagons is compelling. Like Cakez said I don't think you do that to Isis.

Cakez are you scum?

[Galron]

should get a claim though

Do we need a claim when it's 4-1?

[Galron]

I mean, all the nobles are dead. But I don't really know what that implicates. The sun apparently hasn't gone down or anything like Pooks was talking about. Where does that leave us exactly?

[Galron]

I feel like such an idiot with shiki looking on like I should be aspiring to be a better mafia player. I don't know what it is with her. She makes me want to be better at mafia but I am so terrible. It's like the docs at Mayo who took away my cancer. They're just on a higher level. I think that's where shiki is.

[Galron]

This is maybe the third game where I've felt i've let her down.

[Galron]

Okay, so I'll join in saying the poe is Cakez and Vanderscamp so assuming that's correct it's a town win regardless.

[Galron]

Isn't this cozy.

[Galron]

I don' t see Pooky scum.

[Galron]

Pooky the dream warrior.

[Galron]

Okay I guess I need to read this. I just know that for the first few days I thought Pooky was scummy, and then I realized he was on both scum wagons I think and he did the tryhard stuff yesterday. But I'd like to win one of these for once so I'm going to read it.

[Galron]

I think he did but I didn't get back to him in time.

[Galron]

The hood locks at daystart. I picked the Mad Hatters the first night, or second, whichever night they were killed, because the other night I forgot to get a pick in to Tweet. Then I think it was Night 3 I had Isis, and she was limmed the next day quicker than I thought it was going to happen so I didn't get a pick into Tweet until twilight, and she wouldn't count it, so I didn't have a neighbor that night. I had actually picked Pooky for that. And then obviously I picked Cakez for last night. I get a message whenever I get a link to a hood whether the person I selected is nobility. Obviously none of my picks were. With Cakez it didn't matter cause all the nobles were dead anyway.

[Galron]

I was going to quiz Cakez in the hood, try to sort, but I didn't get to it.

[Galron]

Isis first asked whether I was going to kill her. I told her no but I wanted to. I was scum reading her then. We ended up just playing a game.

[Galron]

It was kind of fun actually. She beat me though.

[Galron]

I'll bbl.

[Galron]

It was a game we made up where we tried to beat each other with different combinations of letters and words. Like license plates or something.

[Galron]

Isis would draw a card, then she had to jump up and down however many times the card said face value. Like 1-10 and then jQK was 11-13. If she completed the jumps, that was her score for the round. I would then have to go to the store and buy a few packages of Keebler Club Crackers and I'd eat however many crackers I could in however many seconds equaled to the number of times she jumped up and down. If I ate less than that number or more than that number, that would be my score for that round. We played four rounds I think, and she ended up winning.

[Galron]

Busted.

Yeah, it was just a nonsense game we made up as we went.

[Galron]

It's really not worth talking about. It was just a nonsense thing.

[Galron]

I said that in 1045 didn't I? It was just a nonsense thing we did. If you want o make a thing about it, fine, but there's nothing to read into.

[Galron]

I'm just having fun. What is happening with this site anyway?

[Galron]

It was a bunch of numbers and letters and we just put them down and larped a game out of it. Just what I told you.

[Galron]

I'm pretty sure I do

[Galron]

There were no rules. they were numbers and letters we made up. How many times are we going to go through this?

[Galron]

I started it actually. And I decided at the end that she won.

[Galron]

Jesus Pooky. I don't know what you're getting at here.

[Galron]

I'm not going to mollify you. I've explained what we did over and over again. I've explained how the game worked. That's all there was to it. I really don't care if you vote for Cakez or not right now even though it's gamethrowing if you vote me. Why would I make something like this up? Ask Cakez about how I tried to make him feel comfortable in the hood. That was a larp as well.

[Galron]

Because I'm not scum and one you are.

[Galron]

How is that so difficult?

[Galron]

If you're town, we're screwed. If you're scum, you probably just win because Cakez is going to vote you.

[Galron]

That didn't make any sense

[Galron]

If you're town and vote for me, I have to counter and cakez votes for you or me and scum wins. If you're scum and vote for me, Cakez votes you or me, Town loses.

[Galron]

What? I never said I didn't want you to vote for Cakez?

[Galron]

I don't even know what the last two pages were about.

[Galron]

I really don't care if you vote for Cakez or not right now

you kind of did say this

What I was getting at was if you're town and vote for me, you're gamethrowing. That was part of that sentence.

[Galron]

Talk with Cakez. I'm going to bed.

[Galron]

Galron what is the name of your role? if you can share that

Achromatic Murmer

[Galron]

Galron what is the name of your role? if you can share that

Achromatic Murmer

Achromatic Murmur.

[Galron]

This doesn't seem that difficult, but every time I think about it, it gets difficult if that makes any sense.

[Galron]

A day left. Ugh.

[Galron]

Let's try this.

[Galron]

I have a simple mind. And not much time.

[Galron]

This is excruciating.

[Galron]

I'm trying to channel shiki.

[Galron]

I'll make a decision in 1 hour

[Galron]

I've been combing the notifications from Tweetie and I can't find any clues.

[Galron]

Rattle rattle thunder clatter boom boom boom

[Galron]

the constructed nature of the RP

What's this?

pretty sure vanderscamp means how it is difficult to determine if mad hatters posts feel scummy in the way they are constructed because coming from scum or because of their posting style, the alliteration and so forth, which also takes like, similar things to put together

like scum have to like, construct thought processes/create temporal dissonance/give the appearance of being towns et cetera, which if you are looking for like input/output type thing it's more in for same out for the mafias and you can kinda tell in posts sometimes though we as a whole collectively as mafia players as definitely worse at this than any of us give the impression of being during a game (especially me!!!)

but if you are also making your posts sound nice (even at the cost of meaning sometimes) before posting it makes trying to make this sort of determination very difficult

Here I didn't know what rp was but figured it out.

[Galron]

I'm just going to turn my head and hope for the best.

VOTE: SirCakez

I thought Cakez entered the hood on the defensive, but it may just my slant on it because Isis entered it that way too.

Cakez was townie at the beginning of the game, but latter half not so much. Pooky the other way around. The way Day 1 went down was laborious.

I'm just gonna hope I'm not missing something obvious.

[Galron]

My pea sized brain is killing me.

[Galron]

Cuz we sucked lol

I feel this so hard.