Mini 2265: Bears with Guns 2: Pandamonium game over

[Toogeloo]

I'm still operating under the pretense that if Math is scum, he's just a poisoner.

[wavemode]

This being theater is unlikely to be honest, so its either TVT (most likely here to me), or SVT, but definitely not SVS here.

that's not a stance lmfao. stating that an interaction between two players is either TVT or SVT is saying almost nothing at all

[StrangeMatter]

18 hours, people

I would also go dwlee

I'm not voting megaz or CSF

Are these entirely on the fact you think I'm going to flip scum, since those are the two slots I have voted?

Calling my vote OMGUS is also extremely disingenuous since there were things about their vote on me that stood out as a little scummy which I had already pointed out.

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm still operating under the pretense that if Math is scum, he's just a poisoner.

I'd agree for the most part but please answer my earlier question if you haven't in a future post.

[wavemode]

Are these entirely on the fact you think I'm going to flip scum, since those are the two slots I have voted?

no. if you've been analyzing the game as closely as you claim, you'd recall that these two have been townleans of mine for a while now

[Toogeloo]

I'm still operating under the pretense that if Math is scum, he's just a poisoner.

I'd agree for the most part but please answer my earlier question if you haven't in a future post.

Repeat it? Maybe I missed it.

[StrangeMatter]

Are these entirely on the fact you think I'm going to flip scum, since those are the two slots I have voted?

no. if you've been analyzing the game as closely as you claim, you'd recall that these two have been townleans of mine for a while now

Well then I just didn't see it.

[StrangeMatter]

But anyways,

This being theater is unlikely to be honest, so its either TVT (most likely here to me), or SVT, but definitely not SVS here.

that's not a stance lmfao. stating that an interaction between two players is either TVT or SVT is saying almost nothing at all

That is a stance on two people pushing each other. Like you could say saying something is SVT or TVT but it would still be someone's view on that, and it would be considered a stance on something.

[Greeting]

I am very torn. I want to vote Cat Scratch Fever, but the fact that JacksonVirgo is on that is stopping me. I honestly don't know why Day 2 is so weird. My gut is telling me that scums are being idle right now and hoping that town will redirect their attention somewhere else. I guess the other alternative is MegAzumarill.

What's your issue with me specifically? Maybe I can rectify that read now that I am out of the "attack everyone" phase.

MathBlade

counterclaimed your claim. I know that you said it was a joke claim, but the coincidence is just too bizarre.

I thought 686 was made in bad faith. I don't attack someone because they have real-life issues or real-life mental health issues. I attack in-game behavior only and strongly suggest that everybody do the same. I won't come for someone because they have work or family issues and go V/LA as a result. If someone is being inconsequent or erratic, however, and then blame it on their real-life issues, it attracts my attention and I do think it's game-relevant. I explained this in 687 and I'm upholding this interpretation.

You have, however, slightly risen in my eyes, because you decided to fight to get townread or at least leave town something in case

MathBlade

's claim is real. But there's still other players whom I trust more. I guess I am kind of guilty of sticking to a gut feeling when I get it and then picking it over stuff that unfolded later in the game, so if you flip town I will turn out to have been too stubborn and inflexible.

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm still operating under the pretense that if Math is scum, he's just a poisoner.

I'd agree for the most part but please answer my earlier question if you haven't in a future post.

Repeat it? Maybe I missed it.

774

[MegAzumarill]

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever
E-1
Here's hope to a better day 3

[JacksonVirgo]

I am very torn. I want to vote Cat Scratch Fever, but the fact that JacksonVirgo is on that is stopping me. I honestly don't know why Day 2 is so weird. My gut is telling me that scums are being idle right now and hoping that town will redirect their attention somewhere else. I guess the other alternative is MegAzumarill.

What's your issue with me specifically? Maybe I can rectify that read now that I am out of the "attack everyone" phase.

MathBlade

counterclaimed your claim. I know that you said it was a joke claim, but the coincidence is just too bizarre.

I thought 686 was made in bad faith. I don't attack someone because they have real-life issues or real-life mental health issues. I attack in-game behavior only and strongly suggest that everybody do the same. I won't come for someone because they have work or family issues and go V/LA as a result. If someone is being inconsequent or erratic, however, and then blame it on their real-life issues, it attracts my attention and I do think it's game-relevant. I explained this in 687 and I'm upholding this interpretation.

You have, however, slightly risen in my eyes, because you decided to fight to get townread or at least leave town something in case

MathBlade

's claim is real. But there's still other players whom I trust more. I guess I am kind of guilty of sticking to a gut feeling when I get it and then picking it over stuff that unfolded later in the game, so if you flip town I will turn out to have been too stubborn and inflexible.

Regarding what you call a counter-claim.
- I didn't really claim their role at all. I claimed Novice N1 Vigilante-Doctor, clearly a joke. as Novice and N1 cancel each other out meaning they cannot act. And Vigilante-Doctor, specifically with the dash to signify that they are also combined and thus cannot act as it'll heal and shoot at the same time on the same person, it was a joke role I made with the worst way back when I did setup design.

- I didn't really claim their role at all. They are a JOAT with neither doctor nor vigilante ability. They are a poisoner and a healer, those aren't the same.

- Do you seriously think it's more likely I am an informed scum, specifically informed about their poisoner JOAT role that decided to post a joke about their abilities (even though I didn't see point 2) or them seeing my role and basing a claim around it to get me eliminated? Or to give themselves a valid reason to scum-read me even when momo flipped green.

The post you are referring to was just a joke because I felt good at the time and wanted to spread that, apologies that it was interpreted in a way I didn't intend. Regarding your gut-feeling, I cannot argue against a gut feeling, I can only help push you in the right direction.

[JacksonVirgo]

UNVOTE: CSF

Want to wait for a bit before a hammer. Discussion is just starting up

[MegAzumarill]

Sure thing

[JacksonVirgo]

I refuse to vote for mathblade today
You should too.
Thank you for coming to my ted talk

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever
E-1
Here's hope to a better day 3

Putting these in my ISO as well.

[Toogeloo]

I'm still operating under the pretense that if Math is scum, he's just a poisoner.

I'd agree for the most part but please answer my earlier question if you haven't in a future post.

Repeat it? Maybe I missed it.

774

I don't think a Poisoner claim by itself flies, and sounds better if you say you can clear it. So he probably just rolls with it. It's a wifom argument regardless though. Maybe it makes less sense to you, so maybe it makes more sense to do it because why would scum do it?

It's not worth thinking about the why of the claim itself and just judge the actions and motivations of it instead.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Megazumarill
Outside right now so won't be checking my phone but I really didn't like that E-1

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Considering CSF's jump onto me without even saying what reason I had or not really trying to solve alignment just accuse seems scummy, though I'm seriously starting to wonder it doesn't seem like many people are trying to either.

Your reason for scumreading me amounted to "I don't like your reasons for scumleans" although they're fairly well explained.

What about my posts didn't feel like they were trying to solve your alignment?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Shouldnt matter what you think of me as ur killing me. Whats up with that

Because while I think you’re scum
I am also doing the thing you asked where I consider you not
And if you are scum I get spew
Win win

This feels like a bad reason to vote for me.

Do you think he's hardbussing here? Otherwise, why are you doing something that your scumread is asking you to?

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Alright I have a question while you're here, have you read into other slots other than Toogeloo and Mathblade? And if so, what's your opinion on them?

Also I really don't have much of a case on others at the moment, but I'm fairly confident is more likely to flip scum here.

Based on this post, you also see the same problem I did with Dwlee earlier (namely, they were too focused on only a couple of slots instead of reading the board, which generally isn't townie), so I'm not sure why you think my reasons for scumreading them were bad or "flimsy."

[Cat Scratch Fever]

I'd compromise on MegA if I have to, I guess, but I don't think they're actively scummy compared to Strange.

[StrangeMatter]

I literally explained both parts already, I don’t get how you just don’t understand and keep asking me this question.

Will be back very very soon before EoD and when I can get onto my computer.

[StrangeMatter]

Legit I don’t even, I’m so done with this game.

[JacksonVirgo]

Legit I don’t even, I’m so done with this game.

Instead of raging out, try to get your thoughts out as not doing is better than not.

[StrangeMatter]

This is the exact same question they asked me before and I’m more annoyed they just didn’t understand what I meant.