Mini 2266: GnG's Upick Mafia [GAME OVER]

Titus · Post Post #10 (isolation #0) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:17 am

Hi. I'm weird.

Titus · Post Post #24 (isolation #1) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:51 am

I will participate

I have a plan that I want to have two wagons countering each other with active players who are fun asap. It's weird but I feel it would help.

Also, please tell me if you hate your role or it doesn't match your skillset.

Titus · Post Post #26 (isolation #2) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:52 am

VOTE: Roden

Great idea JJ.

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Titus · Post Post #28 (isolation #3) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:56 am

I'm giving jjh a townread.

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Titus · Post Post #43 (isolation #4) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:37 pm

In post 35, mastina wrote:
Participate in challenge

Hi, I am a mason.

(Which is to say, I am town.)

Not yet but maybe...

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Titus · Post Post #70 (isolation #5) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:23 pm

CaN We pReTeNd SoMeOnE's DoNe SoMeThInG tO gEt OuT oF rVs?

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Titus · Post Post #72 (isolation #6) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:28 pm

What is the elephant in the room?

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Titus · Post Post #76 (isolation #7) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:05 pm

In post 73, Dunnstral wrote:Here is what I think optimal play is for the town:

The majority of town should dip into the warrior tree for the 1-shot bulletproof. This should cause at least a few kills to fail, maybe not immediately if mafia has strongman abilities (very likely considering everyone can be a 1-shot doctor/bodyguard/bulletproof), but eventually once those abilities run out, every once in a while a kill will fail.

There will likely be members of the town who have an incentive to go into either the sneak or mage trees instead. These players should carefully consider whether they want to dip into warrior first or rush for their abilities.

I have extra knowledge to share that is not covered in the set-up that can be disadvantageous to us if not properly navigated: I believe that each tree also has a neighborhood associated with it, and that putting a point in a tree gets you access to that neighborhood. I believe that these neighborhoods do not reveal who is a part of them, so other players will not know unless you actually talk in the neighborhood. For this reason, I think that players who join the Warrior tree should not post in the neighborhood in order to make it less clear on who decided to take the tree and who is rushing something else.

I disagree with the last paragraph.

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Titus · Post Post #79 (isolation #8) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:14 pm

In post 77, Dunnstral wrote:WhY dO yOu DiSaGrEe WiTh ThAt?

I'd rather not say.

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Titus · Post Post #84 (isolation #9) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:22 pm

Dunn, I don't want to talk mechanics. Talk people. Who do you want to work with this game. Same to you jjh.

Who do you think would help me improve as a player? Who do you think I struggle to read?

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Titus · Post Post #87 (isolation #10) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:29 pm

You forgot your 3 jjh.

I'm also leaning scum on Dunn from this particular discussion.

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Titus · Post Post #90 (isolation #11) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:54 pm

Disagree for reasons I don't wish to explain yet but I feel scum would know why Dunn is likely wrong. Am I 100%? No, but it's an easy thing to fake not knowing.

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Titus · Post Post #95 (isolation #12) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:33 pm

DuNn iNsIsTs I wOn'T tAlK aBoUt PlAyErS, bUt He IgNoReS mY qUeStIoN aBoUt PlAyErS. HeLl, EvErYoNe DiD.

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Titus · Post Post #105 (isolation #13) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:12 pm

In post 84, Titus wrote:Who do you think would help me improve as a player? Who do you think I struggle to read?

This question is for everyone.

VOTE: Gypyx

Titus · Post Post #111 (isolation #14) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 6:49 pm

Mastina, if you hammer before I clear it, I will be very pissed as I can get us two lims today.

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Titus · Post Post #115 (isolation #15) » Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:23 pm

I misthought something. No dual lim today.

UNVOTE: Gypyx

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Titus · Post Post #136 (isolation #16) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:13 am

Then let's get the best from you.

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Titus · Post Post #138 (isolation #17) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:20 am

PoSt GaMe

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Titus · Post Post #141 (isolation #18) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:42 am

I think mastina is not a mason.

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Titus · Post Post #144 (isolation #19) » Sun Mar 20, 2022 6:58 am

In post 91, Roden wrote:
In post 72, Titus wrote:What is the elephant in the room?

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The hoods and anyone who's lurking in them.

In post 74, jjh927 wrote:I mean, my understanding was that everyone was just assigned one of the three things and thrown into one of three neighbourhoods, independent of whether you actually take anything from that tree

There are already 4 of us who have posted in my hood

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Only two others have posted in my hood besides myself. Assuming the player list was split evenly between the hoods, they should be 4-4-5 or 4-4-4 with the 13th player being hoodless. My current suspicion is on whoever is staying silent in my hood, but it's possible they just haven't been online yet.

Also, I've been way too overconfident with my reads lately, but I still read Dunn as town due to their tone. Their town and scum tones are like night and day to me.

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This is an interesting predicament. Everyone should at least say hi in their hood. Given the amount of hoods and the size of a scumteam, at max there is one pure hood. This assumes hoods have 4 or more. Mine has 4.

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Titus · Post Post #161 (isolation #20) » Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:59 am

Chaos delayed. I'm ill. If it hasn't sparked up by the time I feel better or get bored or need a lunch break, I'll try to spark things up. Well if I have the mental capacity.

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Titus · Post Post #164 (isolation #21) » Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:28 am

Why Gypyx? Not opposed just curious. I'd like more data for the day

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Titus · Post Post #167 (isolation #22) » Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:31 am

*pUlLs HaIr OuT*

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Titus · Post Post #169 (isolation #23) » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:32 am

What the heck why not?

VOTE: Gypyx

E minus 1

Titus · Post Post #173 (isolation #24) » Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:19 am

In post 170, Gypyx wrote:titus going from we need more data to E-1 for XP's sake is certainely an interesting development lol

i'd rather not claim as i feel my role will get substantially more powerful if engineered ftr

Ok.

Muahha.

UNVOTE: Gypyx

Titus · Post Post #174 (isolation #25) » Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:20 am

Note

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Titus · Post Post #183 (isolation #26) » Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:05 am

Mastina, I know.

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Titus · Post Post #184 (isolation #27) » Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:05 am

I HaS a PlAn.

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Titus · Post Post #190 (isolation #28) » Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:49 am

In post 188, Gypyx wrote:well, he *should* know what's the sensible move there if you are right about that one, but are we acting like scum doesn't do anything scummy now?

Scummy is such a hard word to define.

Titus · Post Post #198 (isolation #29) » Tue Mar 22, 2022 8:37 am

Why is it always crickets or zoomtastic? Glad I am ill during crickets

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Titus · Post Post #205 (isolation #30) » Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:57 pm

Titus · Post Post #208 (isolation #31) » Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:59 pm

Why is Reinhardt a good vote?

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Titus · Post Post #222 (isolation #32) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 4:31 am

I oBjEcT tO a LoT oF tHiS rEcEnT pOsTiNg.

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Titus · Post Post #226 (isolation #33) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 9:46 am

In post 209, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 192, Frozen Angel wrote:Reinhardt vote on dunnstral looks bad, not cause it looks random, but cause they don't seem to have any minset to solve with it (the game is still so let's do more in RVS?) doesn't seem like they want to start a conversation just to be voting somewhere.
I agree with this for Reinhardt

In post 152, jjh927 wrote:If I'm HoNeSt I wAsN'T eXpEcTiNg OnE iMmEdIaTeLy. ThIs Is HoW tHaT kInD oF sCuM pLaYeR rEsPoNdS tO a BiT oF pReSsUrE; tHe PrOtEsTiNg CoMeS wHeN iT cAn No LoNgEr Be ReAsOnAbLy PuT oFf As It Is ThE kInD oF bOtHeR tHaT pEoPlE tEnD tO pRoCrAsTiNaTe DeAlInG wItH.

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And this for Gypyx

And for Yume, they're also not trying to solve or do anything, and they are trying to counter the Gypyx wagon without explaining why or why they are voting me.

All of that is better than voting Shiro for flaking

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Fos Dunn for Sheeping a bad reason to FoS Reinhardt.

In post 211, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I aM gOiNg To NeEd A gOoD rEaSoN tO vOtE gYpYx

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Agreed. Looks like a rolefish/takeover. FoS Enchant

In post 212, jjh927 wrote:When everyone has posted a bit more perhaps I will oblige

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I can post more.

Titus · Post Post #230 (isolation #34) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:19 am

Ooh spicy.

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Titus · Post Post #231 (isolation #35) » Wed Mar 23, 2022 10:21 am

Now you want to talk here or in the hood?

Titus · Post Post #242 (isolation #36) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:36 am

I feel Dunn is playing politically.

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Titus · Post Post #245 (isolation #37) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 10:10 am

In post 244, Gypyx wrote:
In post 242, Titus wrote:I feel Dunn is playing politically.

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asking questions is political or is there something i'm missing here?

I don't really feel any agression or energy from Dunn. He's capable of more

Titus · Post Post #248 (isolation #38) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:08 am

Crap.

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Titus · Post Post #249 (isolation #39) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 11:10 am

I don't think I am going to retry. It's getting too much in the way and there will be future chances for experience.

Titus · Post Post #256 (isolation #40) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 1:28 pm

In post 253, Roden wrote:
In post 236, Shiro wrote:
In post 224, Frozen Angel wrote:Shiroooooooooo my best hydra partner <3 can you share some early reads and your feelings about your neighbors?
I am treating it as a masonry at the moment, it might bite me later but eh. Honestly I townread my whole hood which I am most likely wrong about. I think mech it makes sense for 1 scum in each hood but

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What is the general consensus on Gypy in your hood?

Upgrade his role for *reasons*

Titus · Post Post #265 (isolation #41) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:46 pm

Pooky, I tend to believe your role, but you will always be wrong on that particular scumteam. Sorry. Go back to the drawing board.

Titus · Post Post #268 (isolation #42) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:10 pm

Why is everyone suggesting all their power openly and not wifoming it?

Titus · Post Post #299 (isolation #43) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:48 pm

Alright,

VOTE: Pooky

Titus · Post Post #301 (isolation #44) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 6:49 pm

Of course I will. Putting down Chuckie bear is absolutely required.

Titus · Post Post #324 (isolation #45) » Thu Mar 24, 2022 8:51 pm

In post 320, Roden wrote:
In post 318, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 317, Roden wrote:So LLD is either hoodless or staying silent in one of the hoods. But she's apparently a Mason.

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i HAVE AT LEAST ONE HOOD, WITH THE PERSON WHO MASONIZED ME. i WON'T SAY MORE THAN THAT ON THE SUBJECT, FOR NOW AT LEAST.

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Hiding whether or not you're in a skill hood makes it hard to believe your Mason claim. I don't see a town reason for leaving that vague.

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Why wouldn't she? The person who masonized her can always come and claim it. So she can do whatever she wants. This type of situation at least creates paranoia in every hood that a mason could be there watching. It limits just agency capturing every hood.

Titus · Post Post #336 (isolation #46) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 4:24 am

In post 326, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:titus if you are mason with lld you should just claim it and stop wasting time thx

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In what world is this protown for me to answer?

Titus · Post Post #339 (isolation #47) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:38 am

In post 337, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:@mASTINA

wHEN HAVE i EXACTLY FAKE CLAIMED MASONS BEFORE AS TOWN? yOU APPEAR TO BE INSINUATING i HAVE.

I don't have a problem with this currently as mastina is voting Pooky. If she tried to kill you, I'd have a problem but a little shade didn't hurt conftown since you're likely not getting limmed.

Titus · Post Post #346 (isolation #48) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:51 am

In post 341, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 336, Titus wrote:
In post 326, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:titus if you are mason with lld you should just claim it and stop wasting time thx

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In what world is this protown for me to answer?
you are telegraphing extremely hard that you are masons with LLD

any scumteam that isn't borderline stupid can see this so I would appreciate it if you just hard-claim this so people can stop speculating on whether LLD is an actual mason and we can move on to actually catching bad guys

also i have questions about how your masonization ability works so that I can make sure this is a real mason and not some loophole bastard mod bullshit masonization.

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So? You want confirmation to rolefish. Not interested. I'll conftown a logical claim, mason or not. LLD fakeclaiming mason would draw too much suspicion unless true. It also revitalized the game somewhat, there's no logical reason to scumread LLD's actions. Because there's no logical reason to scumread LLD's action, the correct play is to defend LLD.

I still want you to defend your statement. Where and how did I allegedly telegraph masons with LLD? I am not sure if I mentioned LLD prior to her mason claim at all.

Why do you care if it's a "bastardization" or not? What do you mean by this?

Titus · Post Post #358 (isolation #49) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:16 am

In post 353, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:i AM NOT SURE HOW MUCH i AM ALLOWED TO IMPART WITHOUT BREAKING SITE RULES BUT i CAN CONFIRM THAT THE PERSON WHO MASONIZED ME AND MYSELF WERE BOTH CONFIRMED BY MOD TO EACH OTHER.

aDDITIONALLY, i WAS MASONIZED, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. tHIS WAS NOT MY ACTION.

Good enough Pooky?

Also, you didn't answer my question.

Titus · Post Post #359 (isolation #50) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:19 am

In post 349, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 346, Titus wrote:I still want you to defend your statement. Where and how did I allegedly telegraph masons with LLD? I am not sure if I mentioned LLD prior to her mason claim at all.
you immediately responded to my solve with LLD in it by saying it was "incorrect"

when LLD mason claimed and voted me you expressed 0 suspicion of her and followed along by voting me in a manner that was clearly telegraphed - essentially it looked like she convinced you to go along with it in a hood.

regardless of whether you believe her mason claim, to an uninformed alignment the response is not to sheep without argument or suspicion.

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Of course I did. Unless LLD lives longer, it's objectively the correct play. You've seen Koba do this before and I cannot remember the game. I believe you had no problem there.

Titus · Post Post #360 (isolation #51) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:19 am

In post 358, Titus wrote:Also, you didn't answer my question.

Scratch this but I find your answer bullshit.

Titus · Post Post #364 (isolation #52) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:29 am

In post 361, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 358, Titus wrote:
In post 353, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:i AM NOT SURE HOW MUCH i AM ALLOWED TO IMPART WITHOUT BREAKING SITE RULES BUT i CAN CONFIRM THAT THE PERSON WHO MASONIZED ME AND MYSELF WERE BOTH CONFIRMED BY MOD TO EACH OTHER.

aDDITIONALLY, i WAS MASONIZED, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. tHIS WAS NOT MY ACTION.
Good enough Pooky?

Also, you didn't answer my question.
no cuz it literally doesnt address whether she's actually a mason or just bullshitting to get her/gypyx out of a tight spot

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Where was "LLD" in a tight spot?

I already said, it's an improper tactic to doubt a mason claim D1. If she doesn't die, sure you can doubt it after a couple days but day 1, no. Second, the gypyx wagon was stalled with an agreement in our hood not to lim there which made his elimination near impossible.

Titus · Post Post #369 (isolation #53) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:39 am

In post 367, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 364, Titus wrote:Where was "LLD" in a tight spot?

I already said, it's an improper tactic to doubt a mason claim D1. If she doesn't die, sure you can doubt it after a couple days but day 1, no. Second, the gypyx wagon was stalled with an agreement in our hood not to lim there which made his elimination near impossible.
ok wtf is your hood even doing then other than wasting our time

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We discussed the claim and there's strategic value in keeping Gypyx alive. You can see evidence we discussed that around Enchant's vote. If our hood is all town, it sounds like scum would be ticked at a miselimination.

Titus · Post Post #371 (isolation #54) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:39 am

Supposing LLD town, who is scum Pooky? Same to you Roden?

Titus · Post Post #375 (isolation #55) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:43 am

In post 372, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 369, Titus wrote:We discussed the claim and there's strategic value in keeping Gypyx alive. You can see evidence we discussed that around Enchant's vote. If our hood is all town, it sounds like scum would be ticked at a miselimination.
yea im sure scum gypyx cant come up with a fake claim that people will want to keep alive great reasoning titus

gold star

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True, that is possible but keeping him alive possibly nets us an even stronger position. He literally cannot act today if he's to keep his claim intact. This feels like another attempt to rolefish and seek control rather than a belief gypyx is scum.

Titus · Post Post #376 (isolation #56) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:43 am

In post 374, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 371, Titus wrote:Supposing LLD town, who is scum Pooky? Same to you Roden?

Gypyx - Reinhardt - Mastina

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No, probably not, No

Titus · Post Post #393 (isolation #57) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:36 am

These last three posts do not compute

Titus · Post Post #397 (isolation #58) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:45 pm

Go on about his Pokémon style plz

Titus · Post Post #399 (isolation #59) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:53 pm

I'm not going to read that and just trust you believe in the meta.

More shit needs to happen so I can plan more evil things.

Just a warning, I may mislead but I will not deliberately say untruths usually.

Muhhahaha.

Titus · Post Post #402 (isolation #60) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 5:36 pm

I don't think Gypyx is scum soooo

Titus · Post Post #408 (isolation #61) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:34 pm

Hey Pooky, thoughts on Enchant?

Titus · Post Post #412 (isolation #62) » Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:15 pm

I don't.

Titus · Post Post #419 (isolation #63) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 4:46 am

Talk to me about Dunn here. His last positioning around Pooky is bad. He'd bus Pooky but he'd rather eliminate town first.

Titus · Post Post #421 (isolation #64) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:11 am

Dunnstral
Enchant
Frozen Angel
Gypyx
jjh927
Lady Lambdadelta
mastina
PookyTheMagicalBear
Reinhardt
Roden
Shiro
Titus
Yume

Here's where I am at

Titus - because me
LLD - because mason
mastina-because obvtown

Gypyx - Midtier townread and good play to keep him alive mechanically
Jjh - Midtier townread
Reinhardt - Midtier townread
Shiro - Midtier townread

Frozen Angel - Would compromise vote at EoD but get an icky feeling when thinking about doing it
Yume - Same as FA

Roden- Where I would vote if my SRs are wrong

Pooky/Enchant/Dunn scumteam

Titus · Post Post #423 (isolation #65) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:18 am

Hate me all you want, but you know I'm right if town.

Titus · Post Post #426 (isolation #66) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 5:42 am

In post 424, Enchant wrote:GO RETRY CHALLENGE OR NOTHING.

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You comply with what we agreed to or die after Pooky. Blocking gamebreaking doesn't work no matter your excuse.

Titus · Post Post #428 (isolation #67) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:29 am

In post 427, Enchant wrote:
In post 426, Titus wrote:
In post 424, Enchant wrote:GO RETRY CHALLENGE OR NOTHING.

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You comply with what we agreed to or die after Pooky. Blocking gamebreaking doesn't work no matter your excuse.
Not scared, try again.

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You can't pretend to be scared if you are. You're stuck with this argument. If our theory on Gypyx is correct, then that leaves us with anywhere between 3 to 5 conftown depending on what happens. Even three is a massive problem for scum as they don't know what else is coming down the pike.

If scum don't eliminate Gypyx, then they have to go for LLD or the masonizer. LLD is a bitch to eliminate D1. Still possible but requires a strong active scumteam who are willing to engage in a knockdown drag out fight.

As for the masonizer, they have to find them. That's why you and Pooky outright asked me if I was the masonizer when I made the correct play.

mastina focused on sorting LLD as we're both aware LLD has faked being a mason in the past. LLD did it in completely different circumstances and had agency captured her townie in the hood and knew she had a janitor to stop her lie from ever being exposed.

Titus · Post Post #431 (isolation #68) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:41 am

In post 430, Enchant wrote:I don't believe Masonizer even exist and i never asked you about it.

Based on what? You're using this to try and out the masonizer which is proscum. You tried to campaign to be upgraded yourself when Gypyx claimed.

Titus · Post Post #432 (isolation #69) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:42 am

In post 430, Enchant wrote:I already gived plan which benefits town even more and gives what you want and completes our theory. You sabotaging it in pure urge to be VI or mafia. I hate both. I am not helping you from principle, before you do what i say.
You claims are just wrong.

You visiting Shiro gives you an excuse to block him. No thank you.

Titus · Post Post #433 (isolation #70) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:43 am

Vote Enchant.

Titus · Post Post #435 (isolation #71) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 6:57 am

It is simple.
You can't block LLD because LLD is a loved townie. No point.
Eliminating LLD when loved is that much of a problem.
You can't kill LLD without confirming LLD as town.
You can't block Gypyx as he's not supposed to act.
You can't kill Gypyx because that lets two conftown escape. You need LLD shaded.
The only way to stop Gypyx's role is to block Shiro. Thus, you claim to visit them. Sorry no go.
Eliminating Gypyx or blocking Shiro are your only moves.

Titus · Post Post #439 (isolation #72) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:16 am

In post 436, Enchant wrote:1. My ability is not blocking.
2. It's day ability.
3. I stated easy solution for you to cooperate with me and get my help, so you can't call it dodging. You both can't even buy retry and shitpost 5 posts when we will plan to hammer someone for it? Why? Because why not.

I am not helping you, nor Gypix while you don't want to do anything. Simple because i don't want. Voting me doesh't change this fact.

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I was telling you to vote someone.
If it's a day ability, why not use it?
Your solution isn't easy at all.

You need to vote someone or interact with my reads. All you're doing is mech, which further convinces me you're boxed in.

Titus · Post Post #440 (isolation #73) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:17 am

In post 438, jjh927 wrote:VOTE: Enchant

I still don't want to vote Pooky although if I'm honest that first PT that Mastina linked of one of Pooky's scumgames frightens me a bit
Key difference however is that Pooky has made visible effort to place people in the hood here

I'm happy to get off Gypyx and see what happens

That leaves a loud and combative individual trying to claim LLD isn't actually conftown when this is exactly the kind of reveal LLD makes in line with her townplay, since she strongly regards the idea of thread control and ensuring that town have the initiative

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Consider my vote here too. While it's not Pooky it's a decent vote.

Titus · Post Post #442 (isolation #74) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:19 am

In post 441, Enchant wrote:Typical, failed at one field, changed boots on other.

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Then why wouldn't jjh get on Pooky? Why are you not voting?

Titus · Post Post #445 (isolation #75) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:23 am

In post 443, Enchant wrote:
In post 439, Titus wrote:
In post 436, Enchant wrote:1. My ability is not blocking.
2. It's day ability.
3. I stated easy solution for you to cooperate with me and get my help, so you can't call it dodging. You both can't even buy retry and shitpost 5 posts when we will plan to hammer someone for it? Why? Because why not.

I am not helping you, nor Gypix while you don't want to do anything. Simple because i don't want. Voting me doesh't change this fact.

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I was telling you to vote someone.
If it's a day ability, why not use it?
Your solution isn't easy at all.

You need to vote someone or interact with my reads. All you're doing is mech, which further convinces me you're boxed in.
Lie. You mostly argueing for lost XP.
I never said i won't use it. Just not use it on you, unless you finally turn smart.
Of course, you need to really understand something.

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Then you use it on Gypyx.
Second, you're just attacking me as dumb to possibly avoid Gypyx being upgraded.
You're refusal to vote is pretty indicative of this. You're just frozen. Vote somewhere.
Why don't you vote me if you think I'm mafia?

Titus · Post Post #447 (isolation #76) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:25 am

In post 444, jjh927 wrote:On the strategic level, I'm gonna try and get someone in my hood to give me an experience point so I can upgrade someone's role PM. My original offer was that I'd upgrade their role PM but I might just pick someone instead.

Just thought I'd remind the thread that giving someone in a shared hood 1 exp is a possible action, and can grant access to the engineer ability right at the start of night 1 if someone has generated 2 exp themself (read: by being on wagon and completing the challenge with no do-over.)
Use discretion for the visibility of such transactions as of course, scum also share a PT and can presumably also share exp 1:1. This may present a rare opportunity to catch scum for embezzlement at some point in the game.

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Agreed. So we force them to give to town that we don't want roleblocked (no excuse in the event of a tracker/watcher).

This is just gg anyway if we lim Pooky. Even if wrong, we net a conftown or confscum.

Titus · Post Post #451 (isolation #77) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:27 am

We originally agreed to give me the exp, but Enchant started hemming and hawing after LLD's masonized claim which suggests they're boned if our theory is right.

Titus · Post Post #453 (isolation #78) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:28 am

In post 448, Enchant wrote:
In post 445, Titus wrote:
In post 443, Enchant wrote:
In post 439, Titus wrote:
In post 436, Enchant wrote:1. My ability is not blocking.
2. It's day ability.
3. I stated easy solution for you to cooperate with me and get my help, so you can't call it dodging. You both can't even buy retry and shitpost 5 posts when we will plan to hammer someone for it? Why? Because why not.

I am not helping you, nor Gypix while you don't want to do anything. Simple because i don't want. Voting me doesh't change this fact.

4
I was telling you to vote someone.
If it's a day ability, why not use it?
Your solution isn't easy at all.

You need to vote someone or interact with my reads. All you're doing is mech, which further convinces me you're boxed in.
Lie. You mostly argueing for lost XP.
I never said i won't use it. Just not use it on you, unless you finally turn smart.
Of course, you need to really understand something.

2
Then you use it on Gypyx.
Second, you're just attacking me as dumb to possibly avoid Gypyx being upgraded.
You're refusal to vote is pretty indicative of this. You're just frozen. Vote somewhere.
Why don't you vote me if you think I'm mafia?
If you both STOP BEING USELESS then i will.
It's not so hard to do.

4

Refuses to vote.
Calls me useless.
I don't need exp. I don't need to be upgraded. Sure it'd be a bonus but it's less chaotic for others.

Titus · Post Post #455 (isolation #79) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 7:31 am

In post 454, jjh927 wrote:YeAh I'm JuSt NoTiNg YoUr ArGuMeNt StOpPeD bEiNg PrOdUcTiVe QuItE a WhIlE aGo As NoBoDy Is HeArInG eAcH oThEr

It's not about Enchant hearing me. Enchant is not my audience since he's frozen scum refusing to talk reads and griping about game solve or confscum. My audience is the rest of the town.

Titus · Post Post #460 (isolation #80) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:04 am

In post 457, Enchant wrote:If she perform same stupidity, i give it to Mastina for my amusement.

I thought energy was only passable within hoods. Otherwise, we just pour it into LLD.

Titus · Post Post #461 (isolation #81) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:05 am

In post 458, jjh927 wrote:Titus, can I just check you understand the following;

The engineer ability upgrades someone else
You can't upgrade yourself with it. If Gypyx wants to get upgrade it makes sense for Gypyx to move the experience to someone else who can then upgrade them

2

Giving experience to town > upgrading all roles. But, we want to avoid any excuses about roleblocks.

Titus · Post Post #468 (isolation #82) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:14 am

In post 465, jjh927 wrote:
In post 458, jjh927 wrote:Titus, can I just check you understand the following;

The engineer ability upgrades someone else
You can't upgrade yourself with it. If Gypyx wants to get upgrade it makes sense for Gypyx to move the experience to someone else who can then upgrade them

2
-Giving one person all of the experience is a bad idea for multiple obvious reasons.
-Experience can be passed between two people who share a hood of any kind at a 1:1 rate. For example, LLD should be able to share experience with her mason partner regardless of whether or not they have the same skill related hood.
-From what Enchant has said, the 0.5 exp ability is just a separate target anyone thing.

You aren't coming across to me as the more coherent perspective any more, Titus. I think the bad assumptions are on your side of the argument.

3

I'd rather it die than go to scum or give scum an excuse to have visited town.
If experience can only be passed via hoods, then Enchant must have a hood with mastina.
There's no reason for Enchant to blackmail Gypyx to try and get the experience rather than give it to me. Enchant doesn't want exp in town hands. Enchant wants control. Scum's only move is to block conftowns and seize power themselves.
I may not have all the answers but I see a very boned scumteam. I don't make perfect sense because I can't know exactly how Enchant will sabotage but they will.

Titus · Post Post #469 (isolation #83) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:16 am

In post 462, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i mean you're pushing pooky!town and helping gypyx!scum get xp to do some bad shit to the town so you pretty much are not just useless but actively working against town wincon so w/e i dont really give a fuck

2

Wrong. I don't want Enchant visiting Shiro because I don't want Shiro blocked. Enchant refuses to give it to me. Gypyx is the only one left.

Gypyx will be outed tomorrow if scum, so I'm fine with treating them as town.

Titus · Post Post #471 (isolation #84) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:18 am

In post 463, Enchant wrote:
In post 460, Titus wrote:
In post 457, Enchant wrote:If she perform same stupidity, i give it to Mastina for my amusement.
I thought energy was only passable within hoods. Otherwise, we just pour it into LLD.
I can give 0.50XP to anyone.

And you don't give it to conftown because?

Titus · Post Post #474 (isolation #85) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:19 am

In post 473, Enchant wrote:
In post 471, Titus wrote:
In post 463, Enchant wrote:
In post 460, Titus wrote:
In post 457, Enchant wrote:If she perform same stupidity, i give it to Mastina for my amusement.
I thought energy was only passable within hoods. Otherwise, we just pour it into LLD.
I can give 0.50XP to anyone.
And you don't give it to conftown because?
You are not conftown.
Gypix are not conftown.

3

LLD is.
Gypyx might as well be.
You're treating me as town, yet objecting to an agreed upon gameplan.

Titus · Post Post #478 (isolation #86) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:34 am

Jjh, you are missing the hood context which I will provide shortly.

Also, I don’t believe I can succeed the challenge due to my bad focus.

Titus · Post Post #487 (isolation #87) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:45 am

In post 480, Enchant wrote:I did blackmail Gypix though. I still consider i could waste XP better.

Right. Not only did you blackmail Gypyx, you attempted to take the experience for yourself. I called you out on that at 2:20 pm in the hood. You voted me in public nine minutes later.

Enchant has an agenda. It's not protown.

Titus · Post Post #489 (isolation #88) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:46 am

I also hadn't failed the challenge or had expressed any alleged mechanical misunderstandings. Enchant had no excuse but greed and sabotage. Enchant won't state their agenda but they have one.

Titus · Post Post #492 (isolation #89) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:47 am

In post 488, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:your agenda isn't protown either

1

Getting three to five conftown or two conftown and scum is not protown? Hahaha.

Titus · Post Post #493 (isolation #90) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:49 am

My god this will be like pulling teeth. Luckily, I can ignore this for awhile and come back later as it's DnD time.

Titus · Post Post #496 (isolation #91) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:50 am

In post 495, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if gypyx promised you 3 conftown people by tommorrow then i have a bridge to sell you

3

Masons plus Gypyx.

Titus · Post Post #502 (isolation #92) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 9:04 am

In post 499, jjh927 wrote:Honestly I anticipate I will commit two crimes of a similar level to enchant's over the course of this game

2

We win if we work together. Too many cooks spoil the broth and give scum a place to hide.

Titus · Post Post #533 (isolation #93) » Sat Mar 26, 2022 8:56 pm

In post 531, Enchant wrote:
@Mod

You need to retry challenge instantly you noticed it failed, or you could wait for a bit?

1

In post 528, Roden wrote:
In post 505, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 502, Titus wrote:
In post 499, jjh927 wrote:Honestly I anticipate I will commit two crimes of a similar level to enchant's over the course of this game

2
We win if we work together. Too many cooks spoil the broth and give scum a place to hide.

you have not explained any of your plan to us

I'm not going to just nod my head and say yes i trust you when i literally have no clue what you are planning to do

4
Unless the people in Gypy's hood start telling us what exactly Gypy did that earned them a town read and a free max level skill tree, I see no reason not to elim them.

Gave us a gameplan to get anywhere from three to five conftown.

Titus · Post Post #573 (isolation #94) » Sun Mar 27, 2022 3:52 am

In post 572, Shiro wrote:Oh and it doesnt help that Titus whole plan hinges on Gypyx not having lied about his role and her assumption something that could very well not be the case.

It has a high chance of solving itself though so that is something she is right about.

2/5

It doesn't. That just triggers a different scenario, which I won't go into yet. That will only be done if it happens

Also, Enchant not wanting the experience for themselves is bullshit. If that was the case, they would have had no problem giving it to me as per our agreement since I don't need upgrading. I don't need to be mechanically correct to follow an agreed upon plan.

Enchant can have an accident with all the exp or funnel it to scum. They need to be leashed or die.

Titus · Post Post #575 (isolation #95) » Sun Mar 27, 2022 4:42 am

In post 574, Enchant wrote:
In post 573, Titus wrote:
In post 572, Shiro wrote:Oh and it doesnt help that Titus whole plan hinges on Gypyx not having lied about his role and her assumption something that could very well not be the case.

It has a high chance of solving itself though so that is something she is right about.

2/5
It doesn't. That just triggers a different scenario, which I won't go into yet. That will only be done if it happens

Also, Enchant not wanting the experience for themselves is bullshit. If that was the case, they would have had no problem giving it to me as per our agreement since I don't need upgrading. I don't need to be mechanically correct to follow an agreed upon plan.

Enchant can have an accident with all the exp or funnel it to scum. They need to be leashed or die.
Titus can have an accident with all the exp or funnel it to scum. They need to be leashed or die.

I'm actually perfectly willing to go along with the plan we agreed to. You're not above blackmailing to greed for yourself. You're defending Pooky. You're not scumhunting.

Instead, you're doing the 4 year old equivalent of I'm rubber your glue.

Titus · Post Post #576 (isolation #96) » Sun Mar 27, 2022 4:43 am

Can we just get on with voting Pooky Enchant Dunn or Yume already?

Titus · Post Post #593 (isolation #97) » Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:03 am

In post 592, Reinhardt wrote:I aM gOiNg To UsE tHaT aBiLiTy I mEnTiOnEd As TiTuS hAs NoT sHaReD wHaT gYpYx SaId In ThE hOoD yEt.

5

Interesting. Come join us. Need to mull what happens strategically from who knows what.

Pray tell who is in your hood again?

Titus · Post Post #597 (isolation #98) » Sun Mar 27, 2022 7:39 am

Again, you keep saying I have fundamental misunderstandings. I don't. Enchant will never cooperate because cooperation nearly bones scum. So he has to rig up something to try and look like he's cooperating but won't. It's not like I said this on high and he refused from the start. He started lying and blackmailing of his own volition. In what universe do I think he'll ever cooperate if I just tell him that he's smart and say pretty please actually do what you said? I'm not an idiot. He never will comply with what he promised.

Titus · Post Post #629 (isolation #99) » Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:57 pm

Reinhardt, it's not that gypyx is locktown. Keeping him alive may get 4 conftown or confirm him as scum. We just ensure Shiro engineers Gypyx or we put experience on someone trusted as a backup. That's why Enchant's blackmail is so bad. Since we had a plan, why would Enchant blackmail Gypyx to take his xp? The only reason to do that is if you didn't want to go along with the gameplan. Otherwise, it wouldn't matter who had the xp at the time. That's why Enchant cannot be trusted. I don't know what he intends to do, but he has tipped his hand that he would not upgrade Gypyx.

This does not require any novel understanding of mechanics at all. It's common sense.

We don't know 100% that Gypyx will upgrade into a second mason shot, but why not try?

The role can then be used night 2 to announce the conftown and dictate scum's moves for the rest of the game.

Enchant won't agree to this so he's scum. It's simple.

I don't have to prove how he will mess up the plan, only that he will.

Titus · Post Post #630 (isolation #100) » Sun Mar 27, 2022 1:59 pm

In post 625, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i dont actually think titus is scum

im just voting her because she pisses me off with her insane batshit mech plans that make no sense

1

Sure, that's why.

A plan to upgrade a slot isn’t complicated at all.

No numbers just send all the exp to trusted slots.

Titus · Post Post #633 (isolation #101) » Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:10 pm

In post 631, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if gypyx is some kind of scum role that needed the night to wreck this town and you saved him then congrats gold star titus

2

I'll take my gold star if that happens, but he'll be outed tomorrow if that happens. That's 99% true.

Titus · Post Post #634 (isolation #102) » Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:11 pm

In post 632, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:why read people on play when u can just play shitty mech games

3

That's why I'm voting you over Enchant. Sheeping conftown.

Titus · Post Post #637 (isolation #103) » Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:15 pm

In post 635, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im glad you have so little respect for your own ability that you can just turn your brain off and sheep "conftown"

why even bother to sign up for games

4

I don't townread you and scum would feel defeated.

I'm perfectly willing to discuss reads though.

Titus · Post Post #638 (isolation #104) » Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:15 pm

My vote isn't locked either

Titus · Post Post #642 (isolation #105) » Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:20 pm

In post 641, Dunnstral wrote:YuMe Is At TwO oF fOuR pRoDs

PrEtTy SoOn ThEy WiLl HaVe No ChOiCe BuT tO pArTiCiPaTe OnCe EvErY fOuRtY eIgHt HoUrS

aNd ThEn MaYbE wE wIlL bE mOrE iNcLiNeD tO vOtE fOr ThEm

I'd be willing as a compromise.

Titus · Post Post #643 (isolation #106) » Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:21 pm

In post 640, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:im actually just done here

i have no desire to eat a ban for saying whats actually on my mind

good luck with your mech win

That's unnecessarily mean. I'm not trying to ruin fun, but I have to play to win. Sorry if you feel bad.

Titus · Post Post #645 (isolation #107) » Sun Mar 27, 2022 2:38 pm

This makes me sad.

Titus · Post Post #711 (isolation #108) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:33 pm

I will not be participating. I don't understand the rules and it would screw with my posting.

I can confirm that someone other than Shiro upgraded Dunn which threw me for a loop but what else is new. Gypyx now has LLD's role and vice versa. That was my failsafe in case Gypyx was lying. LLD wanted a new role and getting three town in a link was too much to pass up.

Titus · Post Post #717 (isolation #109) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:21 pm

In post 714, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 711, Titus wrote:I will not be participating. I don't understand the rules and it would screw with my posting.

I can confirm that someone other than Shiro upgraded Dunn which threw me for a loop but what else is new. Gypyx now has LLD's role and vice versa. That was my failsafe in case Gypyx was lying. LLD wanted a new role and getting three town in a link was too much to pass up.
First of all, I wasn't upgraded. I'm assuming this is a typo.

Second, explain to me what Gypyx and LLD did. LLD claimed the role she flipped as.

Can you explain how Gypyx is clear?

2

Gypyx did nothing.
LLD did nothing but give me some of her exp.
I swapped Gypyx role with LLD.
Thus, if Gypyx had be lying,LLD would have flipped with his lie or she would have claimed it.

Titus · Post Post #718 (isolation #110) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:23 pm

Instead, LLD flipped Gypyx's claim. Thus confirming Gypyx was telling the truth.

Titus · Post Post #719 (isolation #111) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:24 pm

Also, I'm LLD's masonizer. I literally implied or hinted at most of my plans, but I couldn't state them outright.

I wanted power on conftown.

Scum were forced to use a strongman or some such on LLD

Titus · Post Post #721 (isolation #112) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:28 pm

LLD barely talks, so no. If Yume came to play, then no.

Titus · Post Post #722 (isolation #113) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:30 pm

Like, if it ever becomes an issue, I can lay out my seeds but that is what it is.

Titus · Post Post #724 (isolation #114) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:34 pm

In post 723, jjh927 wrote:If you had 2 experience last night phase why didn't you mention that? I sent you 0.25 exp to make you have a whole number and you didn't cooperate with your hood at all to try and get the third point for reasons?

That's nonsensical and not true. We did discuss trying to get enough exp to upgrade Shiro but it didn't come together.

I did get your gift, but why were you giving experience to someone you felt was inept?

Titus · Post Post #726 (isolation #115) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:37 pm

In post 704, Dunnstral wrote:I used my engineer on Gypyx like I said I would, by the way. Should have confirmed that here earlier. Can the mage hood confirm that too?

1

Yes, that totally confused the living daylights out of us. It was the plan for Shiro to upgrade Gypyx, not Dunn.

This just creates a fair amount of confusion.

Titus · Post Post #727 (isolation #116) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:38 pm

In post 725, jjh927 wrote:I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

Because there were in fact two people in the game who went into the night phase with 0.75 experience, with Gypyx being the other one, and I got Yume to send Gypyx that needed 0.25 exp

It was an experiment to see whether you actually cooperated

3

I think we just wound up clusterfucking ourselves. I think both you and Yume gave me the .25 as that happened to me twice.

Titus · Post Post #729 (isolation #117) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:40 pm

Well yours of .25 and Reinhardt gave me one. That got me to 2.25. So no Yume didn't.

Names aren't on the gifts.

Titus · Post Post #730 (isolation #118) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:41 pm

In post 728, jjh927 wrote:My fourth post just came up and just now you keep just posting and that just fucks up my ability to post back

Like, I still think you're mechanically inept this game but I'm pretty sure if EITHER ONE of you claimed to have reached a whole number of experience due to a gift the other one would also have claimed that and you'd have realised the intention was that you can put them together to do something

rather than, you know, the selfish play

At any rate, this is probably the better vote now
VOTE: Gypyx

We were actually trying to coordinate but we ran out of time.

Second, Gypyx is confirmed not lying.

Read LLD's flip.

Titus · Post Post #735 (isolation #119) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:46 pm

@jjh, I'm so not on your wavelength on the experience gift thing.

Gypyx is literally confirmed to not be lying about his role though.

Titus · Post Post #736 (isolation #120) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 6:49 pm

I'm .5 short of upgrading now if we had a mechanical reason to upgrade prior to nightfall.

Titus · Post Post #766 (isolation #121) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:36 pm

In post 758, Roden wrote:
In post 744, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 688, Ginngie wrote:Your Ability is to: As the reigning champion of last years league, you get first round picks and have the ability to create your own neighborhood and recruit one player per Night phase to join your roster.

Along with being equipped with a primary ability, you also start off with a passive.
As a Changling, your posts will be deformed in the sense that you must reverse the use of uppercase and lowercase letters. (hERE IS HOW i WOULD GIVE AN EXAMPLE).
You're lying Titus

LLD was the one following this post restriction yesterday, not Gypyx. This was LLD's role.

1
Oh, well that was just easily disproven lol

3

The top part.

Gypyx would confirm the swap happened.

Titus · Post Post #767 (isolation #122) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:38 pm

In post 765, Enchant wrote:We believed Gypix could turn in Masoniser.............................................................

Naive is it?

2

Yes.

Me plus LLD plus Gypyx plus whomever he picked would basically seal the game. Sure, we didn't know what would happen but no scum in their right mind would chance mang conftown.

Titus · Post Post #772 (isolation #123) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:50 pm

In post 768, Dunnstral wrote:I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

In post 767, Titus wrote:
In post 765, Enchant wrote:We believed Gypix could turn in Masoniser.............................................................

Naive is it?

2
Yes.

Me plus LLD plus Gypyx plus whomever he picked would basically seal the game. Sure, we didn't know what would happen but no scum in their right mind would chance mang conftown.
Did you folks think to use the rolestopper on Gypyx as well so they couldn't simply be roleblocked after all that in thread planning?

3

Nope, but Gypyx wasn't supposed to use the role at all. That was to alleviate concerns that he had some sort of super secret role he had to use that night, which was speculated.

Also, a rolestopper would have prevented me from funneling his role to LLD.

Titus · Post Post #773 (isolation #124) » Tue Mar 29, 2022 7:50 pm

In post 769, Dunnstral wrote:I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

Why?

Titus · Post Post #803 (isolation #125) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:05 am

In post 785, Dunnstral wrote:Titus, you were originally against the Gypyx elimination due to purely mechanical reasons, correct? Once it became clear that gypyx wasn't a masonizer, why did you still switch lld and gypyx' roles? You made Gypyx loved when they could not confirm themselves.

Correct.

Loved has zero utility on conftown. Swapping G's role was also about confirming he wasn't a powerful scum role as well. LLD wanted Gypyx's role, so I gave it to her.

Titus · Wed Mar 30, 2022 10:48 am

In post 760, Roden wrote:Could be two neiborizers Could be two neiborizers Could be two neiborizers Could be two neiborizers

Yes they could be the same alignment, but it isn't guaranteed one way or the other.

Huh? If this was a question to me, I didn't get it.

Titus · Wed Mar 30, 2022 11:56 am

I did not spend any XP.

I swapped Gypyx's and LLD's roles because that is my role. I wasn't sure how I was going to use it as first as it's a very chaotic thing.

Titus · Post Post #812 (isolation #128) » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:03 pm

Extra Exp?

Titus · Post Post #821 (isolation #129) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:52 am

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

I did not get experience from LLD. We decided she would buy BP instead. This was more about forcing scum's hand. I really wanted LLD's will to be done yesterday. I apologize for being wrong.

Titus · Post Post #822 (isolation #130) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:54 am

VOTE: Roden

Let's start mafia.

Titus · Post Post #823 (isolation #131) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 6:54 am

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

Doh

Titus · Post Post #860 (isolation #132) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:58 am

Titus · Post Post #861 (isolation #133) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:00 am

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

It looks like Gypyx is the elimination. They can't live until elo but I still think we would have benefitted from discussion today.

Roden's last two posts suggest they're scum btw.

Titus · Post Post #863 (isolation #134) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 5:37 am

will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

It looks like Gypyx is the elimination. They can't live until elo but I still think we would have benefitted from discussion today.

Roden's last two posts suggest they're scum btw.

I'm not sure who I will upgrade. I'd rather have more time to determine that.

Titus · Fri Apr 01, 2022 10:49 am

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

@FA - Loved is a modifier which means that Gypyx now takes one more vote to eliminate.

Titus · Post Post #885 (isolation #136) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:03 pm

In post 854, jjh927 wrote:I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

I'd maybe like to draw attention to Titus claiming to have been given some exp by LLD and then claiming not to have receieved any exp from LLD

Also, again, put it on record that Yume and Shiro are both town

Also, Enchant should be given an opportunity to give someone 0.5 exp taking into account that everyone just got 0.5 more exp. Titus should be at 3 exp after posting a video and so should upgrade someone

Main reason not to hammer right now is moving exp around

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realising it might help other people too

I missed this. I presumed LLD sent me some exp but with the claims, it's not likely LLD. Gifts are unsigned.

I am at 3 exp. I'd like to discuss with my hood who to upgrade.

I like Shiro's thought about one scum in each hood but I wonder what changed their mind.

Titus · Post Post #909 (isolation #137) » Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:18 am

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realizing it might help other people too

Shiro can you pop into the hood real fast?

Titus · Post Post #915 (isolation #138) » Sun Apr 03, 2022 4:47 am

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realizing it might help other people too

The mod did not send over updated exp with the video calculations However, I should be at 3 and attempted to submit my upgrade. I'd like some time to see that through.

Titus · Post Post #937 (isolation #139) » Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:27 am

I will always copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, and then copy this, at the beginning of literally every post after realizing it might help other people too

I'm sorry 917 is my fault. That's the first mechanical mistake I have made I feel. I thought I was grabbing a universal protective, instead it's an aggessive action which I'm not prepared to take and I took another garbage to get it.

Titus · Fri Apr 08, 2022 3:50 am

I will participate.

VOTE: Dwlee99

Titus · Fri Apr 08, 2022 3:54 am

In post 1012, Frozen Angel wrote:reviving LLD doesnt mean Shiro is town or LLD is town after being revived.

But I have this information that titus is upgraded as I tried upgrading them and it didn't work. and yeah the engineer it could be used during the day

Anyways We have massive information getting processed in sneak tree as we speak so I'm asking you all for some time till we process the whole deal. We have potentially a hard guilty + 3p outing + possibility to find another hard guilty or clearing a slot.

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I am. Shiro and I discussed upgrading each other.

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Titus · Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:03 am

In post 1117, jjh927 wrote:
In post 1107, jjh927 wrote:Can someone, preferably Roden, just confirm whether Roden would leave the game in victory in the scenario that he achieved this side wincon?

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With regard to the masoniser, I want to hear from LLD how much she knows about it, particularly around Titus' alignment, because that's pretty key information for whether or not we have to place Titus and what the play would be if people wanted to steal the role.

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My masonizer was one shot. Stealing my role would do nothing.

Titus · Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:07 am

Well then the problem is I'm upgraded and no longer a masonizer.

If it's an issue, I have plenty of crumbs in the main thread.

Titus · Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:26 am

In post 1161, jjh927 wrote:Upgrades do not take away your previous role

You still have the original part of your role PM

We should ask on this but if you're correct, then copying my base role is good.

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Titus · Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:31 am

It wouldn't create a new ability as it's one shot but oh well.

I don't really feel like wasting abilities to confirm me when my crumbs are there and LLD isn't accusing me of lying but if it needs to be done...

Titus · Fri Apr 08, 2022 4:35 am

So then the question becomes can you steal my base ability when it's been upgraded to something else

Titus · Fri Apr 08, 2022 7:16 am

In post 1170, jjh927 wrote:Yes? Your role PM would still be the same, just with whatever else you got from the upgrade, unless you have been told EXPLICITLY that your ability has changed, and if so then that doesn't sound like much of an upgrade.

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It just says upgraded so I think changed, but verifying with the mod.

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Titus · Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:09 pm

The mod is refusing to be 100% clear on what copying would do.

My role pm lists the masonizer the passive and the upgrade. I recommend one person to try and copy me to see if it gets that or my upgraded ability.

I apologize if not clear today. I am coming down with something.

Titus · Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:22 pm

Yes.

My pm is listed with 3 passive active and upgraded

Titus · Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:25 pm

Active is primary is masonizer sorry

Titus · Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:26 pm

In post 1189, Dunnstral wrote:It should work then.

I believe that this will only work once, and so that only 1 person can become a masonizer. I also believe that the person who actually steals the role will not become confirmed town, only the person who is targeted by the role. You can double check that by asking the mod what would happen if your mason ability was swapped to mafia using your hidden role.

I asked similar. Mod said not public knowledge

Titus · Fri Apr 08, 2022 12:32 pm

In post 1192, Dunnstral wrote:So Dwlee's silence here indicates guilt, right?

Dwlee, if you're town, I recommend transferring 1 xp to titus and .5 xp to LLD before you get eliminated today.

Either or is fine just split please

Titus · Sat Apr 09, 2022 5:28 am

In post 1232, jjh927 wrote:

Okay well I'll be coordinating the actions of the warrior and mage hoods so you can see what we wind up doing next day phase.

I would appreciate it if Titus could claim how her masoniser is phrased, roughly- just need keywords- and if LLD could say exactly how conftowned Titus is by answering my earlier question. The issue here is a communication barrier where I don't trust Titus to identify the keywords and LLD is not very talkative, so I'll try and address that.

Titus-
is your masoniser phrased in such a way that indicates;
1. Your alignment will be revealed to the target
2. Your target's alignment will be revealed to you

What happens if you target scum?

1 - Yes. Pick a target. Form a masonry.
2/3 - If I target scum, it fails. This is why I started talking double elimination yesterday. Then I remembered LLD was in the game and said Fuck it I respect her and can never read her. If my ability failed, I would know LLD would have been scum.
4- Post 0 is telling us we're masons.

Titus · Sat Apr 09, 2022 7:17 am

Who is claiming to test me?

Titus · Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:11 am

In post 1279, jjh927 wrote:

How is the bit that says if you target scum it fails worded?

Does is specify someone who is "Not aligned with the town" or does it specify "aligned with the mafia"

Neither. I asked the mod.

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Titus · Sat Apr 09, 2022 8:17 am

In post 1281, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:pLEASE DON'T MAKE ME KILL YOU FOR TRYING TO CAST DOUBT ON A MOD CONFIRMED TOWNIE, jjh. i'M TOWN, i'M REVIVED FROM THE DEAD BY A METHOD YOU KNOW WELL ABOUT, AND i'M SAYING tITUS IS A MASON.

dON'T THINK i DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME PARANOIA WHEN IT HAPPENED. i HAVE BEEN MINDFUL FOR IT THE WHOLE TIME. iT'S JUST NOT THERE. wE'VE HAD A SINGLE NIGHTKILL THIS WHOLE GAME THAT SUCCEEDED, AND IT WAS ON ME. uNTIL WE START TO SEE tITUS LIVE TOO LONG ON THIS, JUST... BELIEVE. tITUS IS OFTEN LEFT ALIVE FOR HAVING WRONG READS. iT'S NOT WEIRD SHE WASN'T KILLED EVEN LAST NIGHT.

I tend to be really hot or cold, particularly early. I'm ok with this although a bit insulting.

Titus · Sat Apr 09, 2022 9:03 am

In post 1284, jjh927 wrote:LLD- let me make this as clear as possible- I am not trying to create doubt; I am trying to eliminate it. This is a bastard game and I have a negative level of confidence in Titus' ability to understand the mechanics in this game. I want a full picture of the ability so I can understand who should steal it, as well as assess the possibility of 3ps/multiball given the Roden/Dunnstral stuff, and get an idea of how that would interact with the role

I have 0 doubt you are town and very minimal doubt Titus is town.

We should have you and a scummy person do it.

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Titus · Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:28 pm

I am popcorning this shit.

Titus · Thu Apr 14, 2022 5:29 pm

I forgot challenge but oh well. Definitely no ace up my sleeve.

Titus · Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:06 am

I'll catch up tonight.

Titus · Sat Apr 16, 2022 2:27 pm

So who allegedly tried to steal my ability last night?

Titus · Sat Apr 16, 2022 7:58 pm

In post 1683, jjh927 wrote:Nobody did

We didn't have the exp

Alright, y'all didn't try to sort that...I am macho tonight so....

Titus · Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:45 am

In post 1745, Yume wrote:Could someone also answer why I am still alive despite the vigs? I don't see anyone saying anything on that front.

Why would a vig shoot you?

Titus · Wed Apr 20, 2022 3:50 pm

Yeah, we're voting mastina today.

Titus · Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:00 pm

In post 1774, Yume wrote:
In post 1773, Titus wrote:Yeah, we're voting mastina today.
You saw what I wrote, right?

Yes.

Titus · Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:03 pm

In post 1780, Yume wrote:That moment when you successfully masonize a player, yet others are still planning to vote them due to your reputation.

Fml

It has nothing to do with your reputation.

When did you successfully masonize mastina?

Titus · Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:04 pm

In post 1780, Yume wrote:That moment when you successfully masonize a player, yet others are still planning to vote them due to your reputation.

Fml

The only way you could have gotten a masonizer is if you took it from me? So why are you voting me?

Titus · Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:04 pm

In post 1783, Yume wrote:Today. D4.

I might be able to verify this, which means other suspicious circumstances are about.

Did you submit stealing my masonizer as a night action or a day action?

Titus · Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:06 pm

I can confirm that I no longer have my masonizer ability for what it's worth.

However, I also have a suspicious result on mastina.

Titus · Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:11 pm

In post 1787, Yume wrote:Well, you have one chance. Provide me proof that my masonize was tampered with and I will vote mastina with you. Especially since my other action suggests she is scum.

Night action. But I also rolestopped mastina, so scum!mastina can't have tampered with my shot.

Well that explains my suspicious result.

However, your masonizer cannot be tampered with if genuine. You both would get notifications the thread is a masonry.

Titus · Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:11 pm

The problem I have is that you said you copied my masonry today.

The mod told me I lost it at the end of night 4.

Titus · Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:15 pm

In post 1791, Yume wrote:Well, I did.

It's a night action. Me stealing your role is a night action and functions as such.

So did you get a thread with a masonry with mastina?

Titus · Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:20 pm

If you copied my role and used it during the day, tampering is impossible. Do you have a PT with mastina? Yes or no.

Titus · Wed Apr 20, 2022 6:43 pm

VOTE: jjh

Ok.

Titus · Thu Apr 21, 2022 10:05 am

Can we just eliminate jjh already? Dude is boxed in and flinging mud.