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Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:48 pm

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In post 1924, geraintm wrote:Angela (who is 99% liekly to be different alignment to Scorpious)
how does this

even make sense?

like sure i think it is pretty apparent that we are not mafia together

but that doesn't make me mafia if scorpious is town? it would just mean scorpious was roleblocked,

which is what i have been trying to get everyone to weigh vs odds scorpious is a mafia

for most of the day
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Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:53 pm

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okay there's a lot here tomorrow it is
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Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:56 pm

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In post 1921, geraintm wrote:
In post 1919, MalcolmTucker wrote:I think the "I don't think there will be many places left for scum to hide" feels incredibly fake and naff to me as well.
1st, excellent use of the word naff.


2nd, to me at least i would find it hard to beleive Angela was town, and i would struggle to see how people would think i was scum if Scorpious flipped scum. Combined with Kitty being green and another death in the night, there would be 9 left, 3 i think should be seen as town leaving 2 scum amoung 6 people - though that 6 might be further narrowed down after the night.

that is my thinking, i am not sure why it comes across as fake?
I think Scorpious flipping town would make Angela very suspect but far from guaranteed mafia. There's a possibility - albeit not necessarily something that'd be definite - that Scorpious/Angela is just very active town-on-town.

Scorpious mafia would largely clear you (and probably Andre given early exchanges), but by the same token I think such an argument could basically apply to any flip? The same could go for you - if you flipped mafia it'd basically clear me and Scorpious, to give just one example. If Scorpious comes back town I think it gives us some useful info to a point, but not necessarily a whole lot more than with other players.
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Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:57 pm

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In post 1927, MalcolmTucker wrote:
In post 1921, geraintm wrote:
In post 1919, MalcolmTucker wrote:I think the "I don't think there will be many places left for scum to hide" feels incredibly fake and naff to me as well.
1st, excellent use of the word naff.


2nd, to me at least i would find it hard to beleive Angela was town, and i would struggle to see how people would think i was scum if Scorpious flipped scum. Combined with Kitty being green and another death in the night, there would be 9 left, 3 i think should be seen as town leaving 2 scum amoung 6 people - though that 6 might be further narrowed down after the night.

that is my thinking, i am not sure why it comes across as fake?
I think Scorpious flipping town would make Angela very suspect but far from guaranteed mafia. There's a possibility - albeit not necessarily something that'd be definite - that Scorpious/Angela is just very active town-on-town.

Scorpious mafia would largely clear you (and probably Andre given early exchanges), but by the same token I think such an argument could basically apply to any flip? The same could go for you - if you flipped mafia it'd basically clear me and Scorpious, to give just one example. If Scorpious comes back town I think it gives us some useful info to a point, but not necessarily a whole lot more than with other players.
I do sort of see what you were going for with the original post there more now with your follow-up, so the use of "naff" - while it is a fun word - was perhaps a tad harsh.
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Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 8:57 pm

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@angela

true, Scorpious could have been roleblocked and mod put in two similar roles both on town's side, but i think the likelihood of that is slim.

if scorpious flips scum i cannot see how scum (you and SCorpious) would have planned the whole kitty FN thing, so i am very happy with my vote on them
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Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:04 pm

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In post 1927, MalcolmTucker wrote:I think Scorpious flipping town would make Angela very suspect
i,

guess i just,

don't really understand at all

like my being wrong doesn't make me mafia i am wrong quite often much more often than i would like to be

and! like, i don't go very far out of my way to make the game much harder for myself as mafia?

which is what you would have to think i'd be doing this game in general if you think i am mafia

but, shrug, this is all hedged on a scorpious townflip anyway and doesn't seem as worth discussing as the likelihood of that potential townflip

but anyway like i said, tomorrow's eyes
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Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:14 pm

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In post 1927, MalcolmTucker wrote:The same could go for you - if you flipped mafia it'd basically clear me and Scorpious, to give just one example
i know i will flip green, so i can safely ignore this part of your argument :)

if scorpious flips green, then town are in serious trouble with not many eliminations left and will have to play extremely well from that point on. but we can worry about that if it happens.
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Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:33 pm

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Yeah, I agree with Gera's take. It's a risk but it's a calculated one, and you can't really win as town without taking risks.
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Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:46 pm

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I am always concerned when people say I have good ideas...
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Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 12:56 am

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In post 1930, angela wrote:
In post 1927, MalcolmTucker wrote:I think Scorpious flipping town would make Angela very suspect
i,

guess i just,

don't really understand at all

like my being wrong doesn't make me mafia i am wrong quite often much more often than i would like to be

and! like, i don't go very far out of my way to make the game much harder for myself as mafia?

which is what you would have to think i'd be doing this game in general if you think i am mafia

but, shrug, this is all hedged on a scorpious townflip anyway and doesn't seem as worth discussing as the likelihood of that potential townflip

but anyway like i said, tomorrow's eyes
My concern would be less about you making a wrong call but more due to the way you went all-in on Scorpious immediately at the start of D2 without really stopping to consider whether there could have been a mistake. You've only later seemed to consider that a bit more.
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Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:19 am

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@malcolm

Why wouldnt i go hard on Scorpious? If a confirmed Townie thinks they are scum, and all the logic to me makes sense, then i am going to go the same way,
i am certainly not going to let Scorpious and their partners unknown attempt to muddy the day and let town go in a different direction. i have seen zero options put forward by anyone that is better than elimianting Scorpious. I am not going to let Scorpious slow clapping my posts distract me.
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Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:49 am

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In post 1931, geraintm wrote:if scorpious flips green, then town are in serious trouble with not many eliminations left and will have to play extremely well from that point on. but we can worry about that if it happens.
of all you posts this is the scummiest one. I'll let others figure out why.
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Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:53 am

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In post 1935, geraintm wrote:Why wouldnt i go hard on Scorpious? If a confirmed Townie thinks they are scum, and all the logic to me makes sense, then i am going to go the same way,

confirmed town does not mean that are granted 100% knowledge, you know that right?
How many "confirmed "town have you seen with wrong reads in games? I use quotes not for kitty, but in general.
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Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:55 am

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In post 1935, geraintm wrote:i am certainly not going to let Scorpious and their partners unknown attempt to muddy the day and let town go in a different direction. i have seen zero options put forward by anyone that is better than elimianting Scorpious.
We've seen zero options from anyone other than me and Andres..period..
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Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:57 am

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In post 1935, geraintm wrote:i am certainly not going to let Scorpious and their partners unknown attempt to muddy the day and let town go in a different direction.
Where have I seen this behavior before?

was it D1? was it someone who was basically on their knees ssaying "Let me live,I'll be better in D2" *tear*
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Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 1:59 am

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oh many are wrong, and if you are town, then your belief i am scum is wrong for example.
but their logic makes sense and i see no better place to go today.

please don't just fight me for voting you though, you don't get to try and distract your wagon by chipping at bits of it. there are i believe 3 votes on you and a strong 4th.##i have no idea what yuor snide comment about ym post 1931 is about btw.
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Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:00 am

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In post 1940, geraintm wrote:oh many are wrong, and if you are town, then your belief i am scum is wrong for example.
but their logic makes sense and i see no better place to go today.

please don't just fight me for voting you though, you don't get to try and distract your wagon by chipping at bits of it. there are i believe 3 votes on you and a strong 4th.##i have no idea what yuor snide comment about ym post 1931 is about btw.
truth is you have hopped lazily on my wagon,and done nothing else this game.

your playing a basic scum game and its apparent.
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Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:01 am

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And the wagon,including you on me is horrible right now, Give me why you TR the current wagon please.
Work for your vote here..
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Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:53 am

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In post 1905, Galron wrote:But isn't that kind of limiting? Excluding every other player except for scorpious and malcom as mafia, if you squint you can see geraintm town? 1) it seems limiting to base reads on two specific players being scum and 2) does that mean if you were to sub, say me for scorpious, geraintm is scum?
no i read everyones iso again n i read it like they were town n then like they were mafia n scorpius malcolm n save the dragons feel the most like they could be mafia
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Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:54 am

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In post 1906, Galron wrote:I mean if you go back and read the game with two specific players already scum in your mind, it seems like you're doing something... wrong.
not what i did
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Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:55 am

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I’m VLA until tomorrow.
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Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:56 am

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In post 1908, Galron wrote:When you say you don't think like that the tone sounds ok (I think I got that right), are you talking about my tone or Andante's?
ur tone i base how i view people on their tone both personally n when they interact with other people n i havent felt that with ur tone if u r mafia then u know how to word very well
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Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 3:59 am

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n if ur town maybe mafia has come after u
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Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:11 am

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In post 1925, angela wrote:
In post 1924, geraintm wrote:Angela (who is 99% liekly to be different alignment to Scorpious)
how does this

even make sense?

like sure i think it is pretty apparent that we are not mafia together

but that doesn't make me mafia if scorpious is town? it would just mean scorpious was roleblocked,

which is what i have been trying to get everyone to weigh vs odds scorpious is a mafia

for most of the day
if it's true, scorp is confirmed maf then!! cause angela is town
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Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Fri Apr 01, 2022 4:27 am

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In post 1948, Andante wrote:if it's true, scorp is confirmed maf then!! cause angela is town
how does "confirmed" Angela make me maf?
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