In post 2070, Nero Cain wrote:VOTE: unvote till Jackson gets here or the slot is replaced again.
Why is their activity got anything to do with the vote on scorpious?
nothing. Just didn't want the day to end without hearing from the replacement. Your takes are ridiculously horrible this game.
VOTE: Malcom just because I think Scorp is misguided Town and I'd rather them not voted out and this is the other wagon.
Catching up now.
what do you think scorpious is misguided about? just you? or you and geraintm? or ?
From what I have read, it appears to me that they are super stressed about this game and their actions according screams to me as Town that is playing sub-optimally but town nonetheless. This is again coming from what I have read. Which is pages 1-10 and all of since I replaced in without knowing the full context behind the posts.
If you could add to this with the context that you all have whether this seems like a viable read that'd be appreciated. I'll be catching up fully to see for myself soon, if not after my stream ends. Kinda don't have the full mental energy to get started yet and I am procrastinating.
i mean, i don’t even really understand what you’re saying here
like if scorpious is town, how are they playing sub-optimally other than like, interacting with people stuff?
like where do you think scorpious is wrong since you think scorpious is town but not playing well?
love goes on like birdsong as soon as possible after a bomb
In post 1537, geraintm wrote:So, i am doing my look back at yesterdays votes.
Knowing Not Mafia and Pooky are green, i am trying to look at the wagons, who was on them and anything interesting.
TO me, the intersting bit happens after Vote 1.13
There, Not mafia had 2 votes (one a self vote, the other from Nero cain), Save the dragon had 2 votes (from galron and rathe) and Scrpious had 2 (from Andres and Kittytacky
Then i vote (joining largest wagon and i think ihad previously said i didn't want to vote scorpious due to claim and as a tie break between a wagon with not mafia self voting and one without aself vote, i'll go with the one with 2 genuine votes)
In post 1257, MalcolmTucker wrote:I'm still unsure on geraint but I think them being unwilling to get on the Scorpious bandwagon given they've been a main candidate so far is quite townie.
I'm happy to move my vote from there if nobody else fancies it, and fine to get on an STD bandwagon because I don't think they've looked townie so far and their suspicions of Rathe feel very manufactured.
VOTE: SaveTheDragons
Busy day ahead so likely won't be around till D2.
then malcolm tucker votes - so Save the dragon is now on 4, but effectivly 5 due to not mafia
Then ANgela votes Not Mafia - in the same post saying they think Scorpious is scum.
because today, i want to understand how a sudden wagon that formed on save the dragon and had got up to 4 (or 5 votes) was derailed onto Not mafia who ends up town.
and Angela's vote now looks...weird
and then 2 posts later Angela then says they are wary of Save the dragon - but they've voted Not Mafia....
Kitty comes in and says NM is fine, shoudl eliminate between STD and scorpious
Next vote is Pooky on Not MAfia. no explanation
has a previous post
not mafia votes for me!
I vote not mafia thinking it is the hammer because i am still on the "vote longest wagon" plan and someone had just said they were at 1 off elimination.
if not mafia had voted Save the dragon there btw, i don't think i move my vote from STD
i then miss the next few votes on STD from Not Mafia and Andres because i've assumed the day is gone and scorpious hammers.
I am suspicious as F about the wagon forming on NM and off STD. the votes from Angela (who had sat there with no votes the entire game), Pooky (who had been voting Kitty the whole game outside opening random votes until the NM vote) & Galron (who switched from STD to NM) look terrible.
Those 3 are where i think my suspicions lie and i don't think i want to vote outside them today.
My previous posts about liking what Angela was saying were written before i looked at the votes.
In post 2070, Nero Cain wrote:VOTE: unvote till Jackson gets here or the slot is replaced again. :lol:
Why is their activity got anything to do with the vote on scorpious?
nothing. Just didn't want the day to end without hearing from the replacement. Your takes are ridiculously horrible this game.
VOTE: Malcom just because I think Scorp is misguided Town and I'd rather them not voted out and this is the other wagon.
Catching up now.
what do you think scorpious is misguided about? just you? or you and geraintm? or ?
From what I have read, it appears to me that they are super stressed about this game and their actions according screams to me as Town that is playing sub-optimally but town nonetheless. This is again coming from what I have read. Which is pages 1-10 and all of since I replaced in without knowing the full context behind the posts.
If you could add to this with the context that you all have whether this seems like a viable read that'd be appreciated. I'll be catching up fully to see for myself soon, if not after my stream ends. Kinda don't have the full mental energy to get started yet and I am procrastinating.
i mean, i don’t even really understand what you’re saying here
like if scorpious is town, how are they playing sub-optimally other than like, interacting with people stuff?
like where do you think scorpious is wrong since you think scorpious is town but not playing well?
I don't think I am really explaining it that well, and I am not entirely sure how to explain it any better. The way they are expressing themselves is townie to me, but not in the way that I would normally town-read somebody, they are acting scummy in the traditional sense but not in a scummy way, in a more townie way that is overwhelmed and/or stressed about being voted out kind of way.
My god I need to read a dictionary or something to find better words.
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 2070, Nero Cain wrote:VOTE: unvote till Jackson gets here or the slot is replaced again.
Why is their activity got anything to do with the vote on scorpious?
nothing. Just didn't want the day to end without hearing from the replacement. Your takes are ridiculously horrible this game.
VOTE: Malcom just because I think Scorp is misguided Town and I'd rather them not voted out and this is the other wagon.
Catching up now.
what do you think scorpious is misguided about? just you? or you and geraintm? or ?
From what I have read, it appears to me that they are super stressed about this game and their actions according screams to me as Town that is playing sub-optimally but town nonetheless. This is again coming from what I have read. Which is pages 1-10 and all of since I replaced in without knowing the full context behind the posts.
If you could add to this with the context that you all have whether this seems like a viable read that'd be appreciated. I'll be catching up fully to see for myself soon, if not after my stream ends. Kinda don't have the full mental energy to get started yet and I am procrastinating.
i mean, i don’t even really understand what you’re saying here
like if scorpious is town, how are they playing sub-optimally other than like, interacting with people stuff?
like where do you think scorpious is wrong since you think scorpious is town but not playing well?
I don't think I am really explaining it that well, and I am not entirely sure how to explain it any better. The way they are expressing themselves is townie to me, but not in the way that I would normally town-read somebody, they are acting scummy in the traditional sense but not in a scummy way, in a more townie way that is overwhelmed and/or stressed about being voted out kind of way.
My god I need to read a dictionary or something to find better words.
? i think most of what others think is scummy about scorpious is mechanical stuff that i don’t know if you’ve read? like this acting scummy but it’s actually towny thing you’re talking about here is pretty ??? to me
love goes on like birdsong as soon as possible after a bomb
In post 2129, angela wrote:? i think most of what others think is scummy about scorpious is mechanical stuff that i don’t know if you’ve read? like this acting scummy but it’s actually towny thing you’re talking about here is pretty ??? to me
Ah I see. Where I don't know or have the mechanical information to directly counter the wagon as of yet. I do think they are Town from what I have read, and thus for this current moment I would rather any wagon apart from them.
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 2129, angela wrote:? i think most of what others think is scummy about scorpious is mechanical stuff that i don’t know if you’ve read? like this acting scummy but it’s actually towny thing you’re talking about here is pretty ??? to me
Ah I see. Where I don't know or have the mechanical information to directly counter the wagon as of yet. I do think they are Town from what I have read, and thus for this current moment I would rather any wagon apart from them.
scorpious claimed mailman day one
claimed sent message to me
i did not receive said message
scorpious either lying or roleblocked
love goes on like birdsong as soon as possible after a bomb
In post 2129, angela wrote:? i think most of what others think is scummy about scorpious is mechanical stuff that i don’t know if you’ve read? like this acting scummy but it’s actually towny thing you’re talking about here is pretty ??? to me
Ah I see. Where I don't know or have the mechanical information to directly counter the wagon as of yet. I do think they are Town from what I have read, and thus for this current moment I would rather any wagon apart from them.
scorpious claimed mailman day one
claimed sent message to me
i did not receive said message
scorpious either lying or roleblocked
Why would they claim that if they, as scum, knows they did not.
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 2129, angela wrote:? i think most of what others think is scummy about scorpious is mechanical stuff that i don’t know if you’ve read? like this acting scummy but it’s actually towny thing you’re talking about here is pretty ??? to me
Ah I see. Where I don't know or have the mechanical information to directly counter the wagon as of yet. I do think they are Town from what I have read, and thus for this current moment I would rather any wagon apart from them.
scorpious claimed mailman day one
claimed sent message to me
i did not receive said message
scorpious either lying or roleblocked
Why would they claim that if they, as scum, knows they did not.
have to claim to have sent it to someone? because claimed the role the day before
and pooky was talking about a mafia ascetic during day one
so it seems possible they were trying to frame me as ascetic
by killing pooky to lend weight to theory and claiming sent to me and i didn’t get it
but kittytacky targeted me with friendly neighbour
thus proving ascetic thing impossible
and i think that’s most of the mechanical stuff yeah
love goes on like birdsong as soon as possible after a bomb
In post 2129, angela wrote:? i think most of what others think is scummy about scorpious is mechanical stuff that i don’t know if you’ve read? like this acting scummy but it’s actually towny thing you’re talking about here is pretty ??? to me
Ah I see. Where I don't know or have the mechanical information to directly counter the wagon as of yet. I do think they are Town from what I have read, and thus for this current moment I would rather any wagon apart from them.
scorpious claimed mailman day one
claimed sent message to me
i did not receive said message
scorpious either lying or roleblocked
Why would they claim that if they, as scum, knows they did not.
have to claim to have sent it to someone? because claimed the role the day before
and pooky was talking about a mafia ascetic during day one
so it seems possible they were trying to frame me as ascetic
by killing pooky to lend weight to theory and claiming sent to me and i didn’t get it
but kittytacky targeted me with friendly neighbour
thus proving ascetic thing impossible
and i think that’s most of the mechanical stuff yeah
Scum wouldn't 1 for 1 this early in the game. Nor would they probably ever do so at all, it benefits Town massively. Any 1 for 1 that is not in LyLo is in towns favour almost completely, even if that is with a Town PR.
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 1537, geraintm wrote:So, i am doing my look back at yesterdays votes.
Knowing Not Mafia and Pooky are green, i am trying to look at the wagons, who was on them and anything interesting.
TO me, the intersting bit happens after Vote 1.13
There, Not mafia had 2 votes (one a self vote, the other from Nero cain), Save the dragon had 2 votes (from galron and rathe) and Scrpious had 2 (from Andres and Kittytacky
Then i vote (joining largest wagon and i think ihad previously said i didn't want to vote scorpious due to claim and as a tie break between a wagon with not mafia self voting and one without aself vote, i'll go with the one with 2 genuine votes)
In post 1257, MalcolmTucker wrote:I'm still unsure on geraint but I think them being unwilling to get on the Scorpious bandwagon given they've been a main candidate so far is quite townie.
I'm happy to move my vote from there if nobody else fancies it, and fine to get on an STD bandwagon because I don't think they've looked townie so far and their suspicions of Rathe feel very manufactured.
VOTE: SaveTheDragons
Busy day ahead so likely won't be around till D2.
then malcolm tucker votes - so Save the dragon is now on 4, but effectivly 5 due to not mafia
Then ANgela votes Not Mafia - in the same post saying they think Scorpious is scum.
because today, i want to understand how a sudden wagon that formed on save the dragon and had got up to 4 (or 5 votes) was derailed onto Not mafia who ends up town.
and Angela's vote now looks...weird
and then 2 posts later Angela then says they are wary of Save the dragon - but they've voted Not Mafia....
Kitty comes in and says NM is fine, shoudl eliminate between STD and scorpious
Next vote is Pooky on Not MAfia. no explanation
has a previous post
not mafia votes for me!
I vote not mafia thinking it is the hammer because i am still on the "vote longest wagon" plan and someone had just said they were at 1 off elimination.
if not mafia had voted Save the dragon there btw, i don't think i move my vote from STD
i then miss the next few votes on STD from Not Mafia and Andres because i've assumed the day is gone and scorpious hammers.
I am suspicious as F about the wagon forming on NM and off STD. the votes from Angela (who had sat there with no votes the entire game), Pooky (who had been voting Kitty the whole game outside opening random votes until the NM vote) & Galron (who switched from STD to NM) look terrible.
Those 3 are where i think my suspicions lie and i don't think i want to vote outside them today.
My previous posts about liking what Angela was saying were written before i looked at the votes.
I refuse to believe that they are so foolish, and that it got allowed by the rest of the mafia, that they thought that fake-claiming a mailman to get you eliminated from framing you as ascetic, which wouldn't even incriminate you alone. The claim is very likely real irregardless of alignment or fake irregardless. From what I have seen, I do not think that they are scum just from this mechanical information.
If it's fake, I believe it to be even more likely from Town than if they were scum irregardless of it being a completely flawed play from what I see.
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 2129, angela wrote:? i think most of what others think is scummy about scorpious is mechanical stuff that i don’t know if you’ve read? like this acting scummy but it’s actually towny thing you’re talking about here is pretty ??? to me
Ah I see. Where I don't know or have the mechanical information to directly counter the wagon as of yet. I do think they are Town from what I have read, and thus for this current moment I would rather any wagon apart from them.
scorpious claimed mailman day one
claimed sent message to me
i did not receive said message
scorpious either lying or roleblocked
Why would they claim that if they, as scum, knows they did not.
have to claim to have sent it to someone? because claimed the role the day before
and pooky was talking about a mafia ascetic during day one
so it seems possible they were trying to frame me as ascetic
by killing pooky to lend weight to theory and claiming sent to me and i didn’t get it
but kittytacky targeted me with friendly neighbour
thus proving ascetic thing impossible
and i think that’s most of the mechanical stuff yeah
Scum wouldn't 1 for 1 this early in the game. Nor would they probably ever do so at all, it benefits Town massively. Any 1 for 1 that is not in LyLo is in towns favour almost completely, even if that is with a Town PR.
scorpious was already suspected day one that’s why they had already claimed mailman and such
like they’d just be trying to continuously buy days with potential upside of eliminating me and such
after you’ve read game later we can discuss this further if you still feel the same way but it seems like it would not be an approach scum wouldn’t take to me at all
love goes on like birdsong as soon as possible after a bomb
In post 2138, JacksonVirgo wrote:I refuse to believe that they are so foolish, and that it got allowed by the rest of the mafia, that they thought that fake-claiming a mailman to get you eliminated from framing you as ascetic, which wouldn't even incriminate you alone. The claim is very likely real irregardless of alignment or fake irregardless. From what I have seen, I do not think that they are scum just from this mechanical information.
If it's fake, I believe it to be even more likely from Town than if they were scum irregardless of it being a completely flawed play from what I see.
they had already claimed mailman
before all of the ascetic talk
they couldn’t unclaim mailman
love goes on like birdsong as soon as possible after a bomb
In post 2140, angela wrote:scorpious was already suspected day one that’s why they had already claimed mailman and such
like they’d just be trying to continuously buy days with potential upside of eliminating me and such
after you’ve read game later we can discuss this further if you still feel the same way but it seems like it would not be an approach scum wouldn’t take to me at all
If they were suspected and thus claimed a PR role to protect themselves, why would they pick such a confirmable and thus incriminatory role to fake-claim.
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
It would be much more reasonable to conclude scum has a roleblocker that wanted to incriminate them since they claimed prior to doing their action and would thus be prime time wagon material
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
In post 2140, angela wrote:scorpious was already suspected day one that’s why they had already claimed mailman and such
like they’d just be trying to continuously buy days with potential upside of eliminating me and such
after you’ve read game later we can discuss this further if you still feel the same way but it seems like it would not be an approach scum wouldn’t take to me at all
If they were suspected and thus claimed a PR role to protect themselves, why would they pick such a confirmable and thus incriminatory role to fake-claim.
less likely to be eliminated and such is the easy answer
like this has also been discussed at some length already
love goes on like birdsong as soon as possible after a bomb
In post 2143, JacksonVirgo wrote:It would be much more reasonable to conclude scum has a roleblocker that wanted to incriminate them since they claimed prior to doing their action and would thus be prime time wagon material
yes that is the other possibility as i have already said
love goes on like birdsong as soon as possible after a bomb
Jackson, I have no idea why you, having only read 10 pages, are fighting so many other players so hard and giving a player so much the benefit of thr doubt
In post 2143, JacksonVirgo wrote:It would be much more reasonable to conclude scum has a roleblocker that wanted to incriminate them since they claimed prior to doing their action and would thus be prime time wagon material
yes that is the other possibility as i have already said
"the other possibility"
It's by far the most likely possibility.
"Am I a ghost like you, caught between the seams of two intertwining melodies?"
Jackson, I have no idea why you, having only read 10 pages, are fighting so many other players so hard and giving a player so much the benefit of thr doubt