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also what does this meanIn post 854, Enchant wrote:
Unvote, or you will be night killed.In post 852, Prism wrote:
VOTE: EnchantIn post 849, Enchant wrote:
I doIn post 831, Dwlee99 wrote:Does anyone actually think Enchant is townie
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why would prism be nightkilled for voting you.-
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Ḉ̵͈̻͓̳̖̱̮̩͘Ú̵̧̢̞̞̳̙̲͉̯̞̹͙͛͐̋͗̇̊̾̑̈́͆͠͠ͅR̷̢̩̲̐͒̊͗̉̓̾̏̽͊͘̕͝͝S̸̨̧̧̛̬̖̯͈͓̺͚̜̞̼̃͂̈́̓̀̈́̇̈́̇̏͝Ẽ̵̘̪̖͎̞͍́͊̏̑͗͝In post 930, Aristeia wrote:
also what does this meanIn post 854, Enchant wrote:
Unvote, or you will be night killed.In post 852, Prism wrote:
VOTE: EnchantIn post 849, Enchant wrote:
I doIn post 831, Dwlee99 wrote:Does anyone actually think Enchant is townie
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why would prism be nightkilled for voting you.-
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In post 808, Dwlee99 wrote:I think Prism is mildly townie but I wouldn't mind flipping cause ascetic claim + scary + novice mailmanIn post 810, Dwlee99 wrote:their tiltno uh I liked their read on Enchant but only if enchant is actually town.In post 822, Dwlee99 wrote:I am willing to vote prism-
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I think Prism is mafia because of mechanics and dayplay.
Mechanically speaking - I don't think it makes sense to have a town novice mailman and a town ascetic in a micro - you're setting up a very natural conflict to occur almost immediately because the mailman will think they are supposed to catch the ascetic and the ascetic is actually a mafia ascetic - you are immediately putting the town down one elim a large number of times and I don't see how you can compensate the town with another PR to offset this in a micro since our margin of error is very slim - we functionally usually only get 3 mislims total.
Also I don't think the setup makes sense for a town ascetic and a mafia ascetic because town ascetic claiming on D1 is going to draw out the mailman claim which then can't really find the mafia ascetic because the mailman will just get killed at night.
also novice mailman is an extremely weak role - functionally the only thing it can do is find a mafia ascetic that did not claim. You can't really set up a code to exchange claim or fake claim since by the time the message is sent, you're at D3 which is elo if we do not hit a mafia in d1/d2.
also like novice mailman is not a role that when claimed makes you town or w/e - it's not like a friendly neighbor or a mason in terms of power level that can prove itself.
I think in Micros, the power level of the town roles should be usually mason equivalent - as in 2 masons v 2 mafia 5 VT is a baseline level of balance.
so I just have trouble believing that a novice mailman role would have no utility or be purposefully a red herring to get a TvT conflict on D1 it's just silly in terms of balancing a micro. I can see a miller in a larger game like a Mini or a Large but in a Micro it just feels much too scumsided for me to accept.
Why does Prism claim ascetic as a mafia ascetic? - I think she has some expectation that she will be targeted at night. She enjoys playing mafia but she absolutely hates mechanical guilties with a passion - I think she has a strong enough reputation that nearly any TPR worth their salt would target her on night one and she knows this - I think she decided to claim it because why not? I don't think she expected a role as niche as "novice mailman" to exist on the TPR side - mechanically it pigeonholes her slot as mafia - that's why her initial kneejerk reaction was to hardpush me as mafia who was headhunting her etc by making up such a claim. I don't think I'm nearly creative enough to make up such a role to target her because I'm not a very bright person.
I am unsure exactly why she switched tack later on in the day - I believe she thinks maybe it is difficult to flip me or perhaps I would leave her alone if she townreads me and uses AtE.
On her dayplay I think she is decidedly less sharp than she usually is and it feels like she's more in anti-spew mode where she's just bantering and having fun rather than actually trying to push/hunt seriously which I know she is extremely good at.
I think she's taken this line of play as scum rather than her usual extremely strong and thread dominant style because she knows that I have certain expectations of how she plays mafia and she is trying to get townread off of indifference[yes I actually townread her when she's bored and joking I know it's stupid]
The overall feeling I get from reading her play this game is that she's more interested in surviving, giving few hints about associatives and not really interested in actually pushing/killing anyone she suspects, she feels like she is browsing through a brochure for like which hat to wear.-
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also if she flips town ascetic I will hate myself and go throw up in a bucket; but I think I will regret it much more if she is mafia and I let her get away on D1 again and I just think she is mafia here.
if the overall decision is to not flip prism's slot and she is mafia but I at least tried I think I can have some comfort in that.
I am not going to stamp my feet and pout if I don't get my way if you all have better ideas about where to go I am fine taking a back seat for this decision - it just feels like we are not really going anywhere at the moment.-
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you will have to explain to me why this sequence of thoughts from dwlee rings fake to you.In post 943, Enchant wrote:In post 808, Dwlee99 wrote:I think Prism is mildly townie but I wouldn't mind flipping cause ascetic claim + scary + novice mailmanIn post 810, Dwlee99 wrote:their tiltno uh I liked their read on Enchant but only if enchant is actually town.In post 822, Dwlee99 wrote:I am willing to vote prism-
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skitter:
also skitter:In post 880, skitter30 wrote:
No offense but ur reads are p bad this gameIn post 844, Prism wrote:Lean scum on fireisred and am willing to vote there.
Lean scum on fireisred and am willing to vote there.
there is something really interesting(?) about skitter saying i'm having nonstop existential dread or whatever when it's like, pretty known that pester people about their reads on me when i don't get them or when i feel like they shouldn't have those reads if they were townIn post 887, skitter30 wrote:I would be very interested in a dwlee or dats wagon
i am trying my best not to go back into loltunneling skitter because i know she can't really read me very well but uhhI will straight up disregard all reason if you have a PR dream again. You can come back and be like, “I dreamt that Locke is a N2 Bulletproof Multitasking Cop and Self-Targeting Doctor,” and I will go, “Okay, Locke kill it is then.”~M
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