Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[Well Done]

I am in hood with Flavor and indeed he asking for me.

lmao

[butterchurn]

VOTE: catboi

He seems defensive. My previous vote was a good vote as well.

This phrasing in the second sentence feels over-explain-y and self-aware. And hopping on to what looks like mostly a meme wagon, but doing so with serious reasons?

VOTE: MonkeyMan

I had the exact opposite reaction to that post lmao.

In a, scum who just wants to help an elim go through wouldn't care, but I could see these exact words resulting in a townie debating between their current vote and their new one, kinda way

I think scum are more likely to feel self-conscious about their votes lacking reasoning and about tracking their own progressions.

VOTE: bnuuy

OMGUS's are scummy.

there is almost certainly scum hoping for a quicklim here

This seems like appeal to emotion and OMGUS.

In these posts, it doesn't feel like you are actually considering whether these things make the person in question scum. You're just going down a checklist of tells to call out to look like you're hunting.

Why would scum need to do that in a multiball game?

Do you mean that scum wouldn't need to fake their scumhunting due to there being another faction? I guess I hadn't really considered the implications of multiball in that sense, I haven't played in one before.

[Titus]

Just checked Tracer's ISO, they might be scum too.

1) RVS post on Wallflower with a GiF that does nothing to move the game forward but is designed to be memorable.

2) A post asking Wallflower to expand on his catboi content, but not providing his own or a reason for his vote. Fishing for a mistake.

3) A vaguely threatening post at someone to do townie shit while lamisting.

4) A baseless accusation of me being scum when I voted sword without reason. A chainsaw without even mentioning sword so it won't show in his ISO.

Now as for Sword...

His posts are floating around the game and defensive. His vote on catboi is opportunistic. He says he "has no clue" but then he gets defensive rather than sorting.

[Well Done]

VOTE: sword of ducks

feels like a decent bet

in my last game I rolled a serial killer, I'm probably still in that mindset

This feels like a scum post.

why

Immediately assuming that they had been posting scummily vs knowing that they are town, making town posts.

No hint of worry that scum!catboi is actually trying to divert to them.

[Flavor Leaf]

Actually, if there's a Mafia Miller, they should claim.

Multiball games generally have semi symmetrical setups, not exact, of course, and if there's a Werewolf Miller claim, then there should be a Miller. If there isn't, I say we power tunnel Well Done.

getting it on the new page so it doesnt get lost at the bottom.

[MonkeyMan576]

I am in hood with Flavor and indeed he asking for me.

lmao

Actually, if there's a Mafia Miller, they should claim.

Multiball games generally have semi symmetrical setups, not exact, of course, and if there's a Werewolf Miller claim, then there should be a Miller. If there isn't, I say we power tunnel Well Done.

This seems very WIFOM. Why would you coach mafia players?

[Titus]

Actually, if there's a Mafia Miller, they should claim.

Multiball games generally have semi symmetrical setups, not exact, of course, and if there's a Werewolf Miller claim, then there should be a Miller. If there isn't, I say we power tunnel Well Done.

It's totally me. [/sarcasm]

[butterchurn]

I believe he is saying a Miller for the Mafia faction as opposed to a Miller for the Werewolf faction. Both would be roles aligned with town, if I'm understanding correctly.

But due to the randomization of the setup as stated in the modpost, I don't think such assumptions can be made.

[Enchant]

Titus claimed Mafia.

[Flavor Leaf]

I am in hood with Flavor and indeed he asking for me.

lmao

Actually, if there's a Mafia Miller, they should claim.

Multiball games generally have semi symmetrical setups, not exact, of course, and if there's a Werewolf Miller claim, then there should be a Miller. If there isn't, I say we power tunnel Well Done.

This seems very WIFOM. Why would you coach mafia players?

Well, because they claimed Werewolf Miller, that means there's likely the reverse since setup wise it's already seeming to be semi symmetrical.

In theory Miller and Werewolf Miller can be pseudo town for a bit, maybe role cops can get on them, and it also makes it so Cop/Seer don't target those players.

[Enchant]

No, he meant mafia with Miller role.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well, because they claimed Werewolf Miller, that means there's likely the reverse since setup wise it's already seeming to be semi symmetrical.

It is dangerous to make assumptions.

[butterchurn]

No, he meant mafia with Miller role.

I guess I didn't understand the point of the post, then, but either way my point about setup randomization applies.

[Flavor Leaf]

Alignment assignment and role design had a random element; as a result, the setup may break certain common assumptions, such as the idea that a neighborhood cannot be composed entirely of members of the same scumteam. The first game featured a Mafia Miller.

didn't see this.

Okay, so neighborhoods can contain all 3 scum members even.

I still think a Miller, if exists for Mafia, should claim.

[catboi]

Hey catboi, why did you not respond at all to my response to responding to my werewolf miller claim?

I don't know what I expected you to say, but was surprised that it was actually nothing at all.

My attention wasn't on the game thread when you posted it, ad when I came back it wasn't interesting enough to respond to. My vote on you was entirely non-serious, I believe you're being truthful with the roleclaim.

Actually, if there's a Mafia Miller, they should claim.

Multiball games generally have semi symmetrical setups, not exact, of course, and if there's a Werewolf Miller claim, then there should be a Miller. If there isn't, I say we power tunnel Well Done.

last setup had both a mafia miller and a werewolf miller, I'd expect similar symmetry here - I also expect that being a miller is entirely unrelated to alignment. Last time had a mafia miller who was actually mafia. (he didn't claim at all)

[Flavor Leaf]

Well, because they claimed Werewolf Miller, that means there's likely the reverse since setup wise it's already seeming to be semi symmetrical.

It is dangerous to make assumptions.

I live off danger.

[Well Done]

Actually, if there's a Mafia Miller, they should claim.

Multiball games generally have semi symmetrical setups, not exact, of course, and if there's a Werewolf Miller claim, then there should be a Miller. If there isn't, I say we power tunnel Well Done.

getting it on the new page so it doesnt get lost at the bottom.

I have been on the look out for the mafia miller claim as well, but wasn't going to say anything until everyone had checked in. Will share thoughts on the implication of no miller claim if no one has claimed it by the time everyone has checked in

[Tracer Bullet]

Just checked Tracer's ISO, they might be scum too.

1) RVS post on Wallflower with a GiF that does nothing to move the game forward but is designed to be memorable.

2) A post asking Wallflower to expand on his catboi content, but not providing his own or a reason for his vote. Fishing for a mistake.

3) A vaguely threatening post at someone to do townie shit while lamisting.

4) A baseless accusation of me being scum when I voted sword without reason. A chainsaw without even mentioning sword so it won't show in his ISO.

Now as for Sword...

His posts are floating around the game and defensive. His vote on catboi is opportunistic. He says he "has no clue" but then he gets defensive rather than sorting.

cool omgus

[Tracer Bullet]

tell me more scumtus

[Flavor Leaf]

My power tunnel on Well Done if no Miller claim is gone now, btw.

Would be down to do a Not Miller/Miller type thing in the case there is a Scum Miller it forces them to claim it or chance getting rolecop guiltied.

Not Miller, obvi.

[Well Done]

nvm, seems that the implications are being discussed already anyways.

[Enchant]

No, he meant mafia with Miller role.

I guess I didn't understand the point of the post, then, but either way my point about setup randomization applies.

No point

[NorwegianboyEE]

Just checked Tracer's ISO, they might be scum too.

1) RVS post on Wallflower with a GiF that does nothing to move the game forward but is designed to be memorable.

2) A post asking Wallflower to expand on his catboi content, but not providing his own or a reason for his vote. Fishing for a mistake.

3) A vaguely threatening post at someone to do townie shit while lamisting.

4) A baseless accusation of me being scum when I voted sword without reason. A chainsaw without even mentioning sword so it won't show in his ISO.

Now as for Sword...

His posts are floating around the game and defensive. His vote on catboi is opportunistic. He says he "has no clue" but then he gets defensive rather than sorting.

cool omgus

Timing of Titus scumreading you was awkward ngl.

[Tracer Bullet]

her scumgame is so predictable

[Save The Dragons]

i could see titus scum