Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[bnuuy]

Well now I've caught up, I'm going to leave you all to your Number 1 and lemonade puddles.

[Avoiding a certain internet meme is tricky with these items.]

I feel like I’m losing the plot with these references atp

[MegAzumarill]

VOTE: Catboi
someone said sheep

[Flavor Leaf]

Tbh i do agree Tracer Bullet's been kinda mean and i wish he would tone down a bit. Not saying he can't have his opinions but there is no reason to be insulting peoples play and saying they are past their prime all the time imo.

Is this a thing they do often? Lol.

I don't think they're good with context or analyzing meta, so it's all just hollow.

For what it's worth, I fully plan to incorporate social gaming into my career (film/author/brand) and create a social games platform in the future (10+ years from now, but building the base), and my ambition/competitive/always learning nature just doesnt allow for that concept of past my prime at 27 to be true

[Flavor Leaf]

The read itself? You said you thought that SOD was genuine. What don't you get from it?

Your musings of why you think i could be scum.

Why is that something you don't get?

I think it's a fair assessment on Day 1 that could think it's possible you could be scum from those 2 actions.

The SOD one is trying to change what you feel is a genuine read, but incorrect, and the catboi 4th wagon slot sheep I feel also makes sense.

I think both are fair for questioning at the very least. I'm not fully pushing you or anything.

Well yes, i do think it's a genuine read. And if someone i genuinely believe could be town believes i am scum then obviously i would try to convince them they are wrong.
That's basic play no matter my alignment, but probably more town indicative in general? Because as scum i could easily just completely ignore them and it will probably have no further impact on me down the road.
As for 4th wagon sheep, well yeah? Sheepings kinda been my whole schtick this game and i'm not afraid to admit it. But i have a reasoning for that too, this is an 23 player game so if we don't sheep then we'll never get any information or a flip and what is more important than than in D1 of a large game.

I agree, it doesn't make you scum by any means, i definitely see why townieNorwee does it, but my point is mainly about at least being able to see where I was coming from, and why a ping, not necessarily a scum ping, but a ping itself, alerted me.

[bnuuy]

me saying catboi is a more dangerous player than mena

is not taking a shot at mena

it is because catboi is probably the best scum player on the site

the fact that he is somehow turning that into me insulting him

is a fucking joke and shows just how thinskinned he is

You can praise catboi’s scumplay without putting down Mena in the same breath, which is what you’re doing by comparing them like you have.

[Flavor Leaf]

me saying catboi is a more dangerous player than mena

is not taking a shot at mena

it is because catboi is probably the best scum player on the site

the fact that he is somehow turning that into me insulting him

is a fucking joke and shows just how thinskinned he is

You can praise catboi’s scumplay without putting down Mena in the same breath, which is what you’re doing by comparing them like you have.

it's a simple discrediting technique used to help win 1v1's.

A lot of newer overly confident players tend to use that kind of thing as their bread and butter to win 1v1's.

[Sword of Ducks]

One game town with the same exact role, two games I played poorly as mafia, and one

fantastic

role madness game as a serial killer.

Just to be clear, you're claiming you've rolled vanilla townie in this game?

Yep.

[bnuuy]

me saying catboi is a more dangerous player than mena

is not taking a shot at mena

it is because catboi is probably the best scum player on the site

the fact that he is somehow turning that into me insulting him

is a fucking joke and shows just how thinskinned he is

You can praise catboi’s scumplay without putting down Mena in the same breath, which is what you’re doing by comparing them like you have.

it's a simple discrediting technique used to help win 1v1's.

A lot of newer overly confident players tend to use that kind of thing as their bread and butter to win 1v1's.

Do you think Tracer is one of those players? Because he’s not.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think all my previous games with Catboi they were town so i don't even know if the rumors of supposedly epic scumplay are true.

[Flavor Leaf]

Menalque being underestimated just gives them the power to come back harder, and being presented at the mountain top is only good for ego, and it sucks for actually playing the game.

When you can't hear the good, you can't hear the bad. best way to play it.

I think Bnuuy, Sword, and Wallflower are all townie. TB is townie. Menalque is townie.

Wallflower/Menalque are my towniest reads, I would say right now.

Wallflower turned me from my initial call out on them real fast.

[NorwegianboyEE]

One game town with the same exact role, two games I played poorly as mafia, and one

fantastic

role madness game as a serial killer.

Just to be clear, you're claiming you've rolled vanilla townie in this game?

Yep.

Ok, this is like the most obvtown slot ever lol.

[Flavor Leaf]

me saying catboi is a more dangerous player than mena

is not taking a shot at mena

it is because catboi is probably the best scum player on the site

the fact that he is somehow turning that into me insulting him

is a fucking joke and shows just how thinskinned he is

You can praise catboi’s scumplay without putting down Mena in the same breath, which is what you’re doing by comparing them like you have.

it's a simple discrediting technique used to help win 1v1's.

A lot of newer overly confident players tend to use that kind of thing as their bread and butter to win 1v1's.

Do you think Tracer is one of those players? Because he’s not.

are they an older player on an alt?

I just call out what I see, and right now, that's what they're looking like.

[butterchurn]

me saying catboi is a more dangerous player than mena

is not taking a shot at mena

it is because catboi is probably the best scum player on the site

the fact that he is somehow turning that into me insulting him

is a fucking joke and shows just how thinskinned he is

You can praise catboi’s scumplay without putting down Mena in the same breath, which is what you’re doing by comparing them like you have.

it's a simple discrediting technique used to help win 1v1's.

A lot of newer overly confident players tend to use that kind of thing as their bread and butter to win 1v1's.

It sounds like that should be scum-indicative. Why do you have a townread on them?

[NorwegianboyEE]

TB is townie. Menalque is townie.

I do agree on these reads.

[Flavor Leaf]

I think all my previous games with Catboi they were town so i don't even know if the rumors of supposedly epic scumplay are true.

Sounds like they had a good year. I'm excited to see it. It's their time, pressure's on for them more now than before.

[MegAzumarill]

My first game had catboi scum iirc, we lost handily

[MegAzumarill]

I was town

[Sword of Ducks]

One game town with the same exact role, two games I played poorly as mafia, and one

fantastic

role madness game as a serial killer.

Just to be clear, you're claiming you've rolled vanilla townie in this game?

Yep.

And if you think this is a lie, there are 2 scenarios where I can roll no ability and have no way to help myself:

1. I'm an indie survivor, because I need to live to win, but can't help myself out in any way/shape/form,
2. I'm a malefactor and my goal is to screw over the town, but if I was, then I'd no longer have nothing to hide like this!

(there are probably more roles where no ability can help/hinder, these are the two that come to mind for me where I can't further my wincon on my own)

[MegAzumarill]

Survivor cannot exist

[Flavor Leaf]

me saying catboi is a more dangerous player than mena

is not taking a shot at mena

it is because catboi is probably the best scum player on the site

the fact that he is somehow turning that into me insulting him

is a fucking joke and shows just how thinskinned he is

You can praise catboi’s scumplay without putting down Mena in the same breath, which is what you’re doing by comparing them like you have.

it's a simple discrediting technique used to help win 1v1's.

A lot of newer overly confident players tend to use that kind of thing as their bread and butter to win 1v1's.

It sounds like that should be scum-indicative. Why do you have a townread on them?

That's one of those things that I think comes across as scummy, but is actually townie, if that makes sense.

I believe it is harder to play that way as scum than it is as town because the purpose of saying those words become less intentful since they're meant to help your scum game.

A lot of times I've seen scum players try to play like that, and they don't know how to switch off from it, and it just seems fake. While it's not out of the question, and exactly why I didnt put them as townie as menalque/wallflower, because I dont know TB like that, and for all I know, they could be good enough as scum to do that.

But from what I've gathered on personality, specifically when they brought up posts such as "Flavor did this as town. he's not posting much here. He's scum" that's a inexperienced type of black/white comment, if you were to believe that he actually believed that.

They also actively meta'd my scum game and acted like they knew exactly how I played as scum off of 1 game that was more of an anomaly of a game than most.

So while they could have been used as scum to discredit, i think it's more likely town, in a tunnel on catboi, used weak discrediting techniques to try to powerwagon Catboi.

But they also actively were going to hurt their momentum, so them leaving is actually a bit stronger play, regardless of alignment, but nonetheless, I can't say it's impossible that they are scum, but based on the way I am perceiving their personality and play level, I think it's more likely they are town than scum.

[MegAzumarill]

My first game had catboi scum iirc, we lost handily

Catboi was town, I did not recall correctly

[Flavor Leaf]

Sword, nobody thinks youre scum here.

[bnuuy]

Menalque being underestimated just gives them the power to come back harder, and being presented at the mountain top is only good for ego, and it sucks for actually playing the game.

When you can't hear the good, you can't hear the bad. best way to play it.

I think Bnuuy, Sword, and Wallflower are all townie. TB is townie. Menalque is townie.

Wallflower/Menalque are my towniest reads, I would say right now.

Wallflower turned me from my initial call out on them real fast.

why am I town for you
While I don’t 100% get the scumreads on me I feel like I am acting in a certain way that may be setting people off

One game town with the same exact role, two games I played poorly as mafia, and one

fantastic

role madness game as a serial killer.

Just to be clear, you're claiming you've rolled vanilla townie in this game?

Yep.

Ok, this is like the most obvtown slot ever lol.

I don’t feel super-sure about it myself but last time I saw Ducks play he pinged me in a certain way that he isn’t here, and I feel like it’s a bit odd because it was explained as a playstyle element of his.
I would like if Ducks could take some more stances, btw

me saying catboi is a more dangerous player than mena

is not taking a shot at mena

it is because catboi is probably the best scum player on the site

the fact that he is somehow turning that into me insulting him

is a fucking joke and shows just how thinskinned he is

You can praise catboi’s scumplay without putting down Mena in the same breath, which is what you’re doing by comparing them like you have.

it's a simple discrediting technique used to help win 1v1's.

A lot of newer overly confident players tend to use that kind of thing as their bread and butter to win 1v1's.

Do you think Tracer is one of those players? Because he’s not.

are they an older player on an alt?

I just call out what I see, and right now, that's what they're looking like.

Yes he is

[Flavor Leaf]

Like, Sword, if you're scum here, you win, because i think that's how obviously town you are. even moreso now than when i called you town earlier.

[Flavor Leaf]

One game town with the same exact role, two games I played poorly as mafia, and one

fantastic

role madness game as a serial killer.

Just to be clear, you're claiming you've rolled vanilla townie in this game?

Yep.

Ok, this is like the most obvtown slot ever lol.

points for Norwee.