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Post Post #6225 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 10:51 am

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Post Post #6226 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 10:52 am

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I read very very little of anything that happened before I replaced in.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #6227 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 10:55 am

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In post 6223, bnuuy wrote:and yet you thought I could have been scum in the Datisi normal
Anyway, I feel like your opening today was suspicious as hell. I dislike how you threw Flavor Lead under the bus when accusations came that your monastery could have a scum.
let me explain why:

I thought FL's role at the time was impossible as claimed because I was under the assumption that FL made up his claim and was scumclaiming with the Normal setup in mind. I was under the impression that only Normal roles, with WW versions being parallels of the Mafia versions and no more.

Later it was pointed out to me that bookie was a role(catboi's flipped role) which I had not really read closely at the time. This had opened the door on weirder roles and thus FL's claim was more legitimate.

As well as the viability that FL *WOULD* vig catboi. I didn't care about lack of other kills, because the only thing that mattered is the most viable kill for a vig!FL was in the graveyard.


And that progression is very clear if anyone were to bother to read.


Anything else?
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Post Post #6228 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 10:55 am

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In post 6226, Nero Cain wrote:I read very very little of anything that happened before I replaced in.
That much is clear.
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Post Post #6229 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 10:58 am

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Also Gamma, that's frankly extremely dishonest to use against me when I have done nothing but try to pull people off the wagon that I townread.
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Post Post #6230 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 10:59 am

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maybe we should shoot your slot if you wanna put out anymore scummy takes like that
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Post Post #6231 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 11:02 am

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In post 6225, Klick wrote:
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Post Post #6232 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 11:03 am

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In post 6187, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I do know that scum can only kill 2/3 nights and there might be protectives, but I just think it's unlikely
I actually think it makes some sense for both teams to not shoot n1 and save their shots instead of rando kill n1. This also means that no one worried them b/c scum is in control of this gamestate.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #6233 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 11:08 am

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In post 6232, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 6187, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:I do know that scum can only kill 2/3 nights and there might be protectives, but I just think it's unlikely
I actually think it makes some sense for both teams to not shoot n1 and save their shots instead of rando kill n1. This also means that no one worried them b/c scum is in control of this gamestate.
This is what MonkeyMan was saying too
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Post Post #6234 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 11:10 am

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Yeah it makes sense to wait but players can get kill happy sometimes.
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Post Post #6235 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 11:11 am

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In post 6224, SCP 682 wrote:why am i scum then?
my reasoning for thinking you were scum is b/c I felt you were blatantly wolf hunting.

I also think you are being very conscious and worried about your appearance.

In post 6167, SCP 682 wrote:To people FOSing me - what is it that you would need to find me town here?
In post 6168, SCP 682 wrote:we end up with me as the chained mislim
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #6236 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 11:12 am

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In post 6164, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:
In post 6153, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Cass -
I believe there’s scum, Mafia specifically, in the straggler votes on Catboi.


Mega, Toogeloo, TicTac, and CSF are those 4. Toogs flipped town, and TicTac/Mega are Masons. Meaning I think it’s highly likely that CSF is Mafia here.
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I don't understand why you think mafia would jump on catboi over the Town!Toog wagon
In post 6174, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I still don't think it makes sense for FL's kill condition to be tied to keeping possible scum alive.

I still think it's more possible for him to be scum who decided to fake claim vig than actual vig.

I still think we don't want FL to be around in the late portions of the game.

I still think FL being eliminated is better than any potential vig beneifit.

I could shoot them, but i lose the Vig. It stops me from shooting both of them, not one of them.
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Post Post #6237 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 11:12 am

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like scum absolutely dominated d1 and d2 isn't going much better.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #6238 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 11:12 am

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Didn’t mean to quote the first one.

There’s also a Beloved Princess claim
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Post Post #6239 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 11:14 am

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Pressure on me here implies i have strong reads this game, which is proven with my Toogs/Catboi correct reads. I believe I am also correct on CSF.

With me being as correct as I am, i don’t make it to end game, but scum are trying to get rid of me asap.
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Post Post #6240 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 11:14 am

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In post 6231, Klick wrote:
In post 6225, Klick wrote:
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Tictac and mastina wouldn't be aligned with FL, leaving Nero/Keeper/bnuuy/Enchant as possible Mafia.
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Post Post #6241 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 11:17 am

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In post 6235, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 6224, SCP 682 wrote:why am i scum then?
my reasoning for thinking you were scum is b/c I felt you were blatantly wolf hunting.

I also think you are being very conscious and worried about your appearance.

In post 6167, SCP 682 wrote:To people FOSing me - what is it that you would need to find me town here?
In post 6168, SCP 682 wrote:we end up with me as the chained mislim

I am wolf hunting and mafia hunting

and the 2nd point is Koba indicative not scum Koba indicative.
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Post Post #6242 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 11:18 am

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It is much easier to fucking wolf hunt with a flipped wolf too so frankly you are just commenting on me taking an easier route and now struggling to find mafia without a mafia flip while our fucking reads line up for the most part on the mafia side.


You're confbiased as shit and I think you probably dont scumread me as hard as you were earlier but just think you have to be right on me for whatever reason.

I hope butter flips mafia and that shuts you up about me
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Post Post #6243 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 11:20 am

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Subject: Mini 2240: SCP UPick 2 (Day 8)
SCP 999 wrote:im gonna try to sit down and hard solve this game tonight please dont hammer shit and if you're on wagon pls unvote
i want to clear my preconceptions and try to review the game and try to get into the mindset like im a spectator - i very much *hate* a limlo situation here because i wpmt be able to solve properly bc i can feel being pushed on or even a random vote towards me.

guys koba was self conscious in this game they R SCUMZ LOLE
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Post Post #6244 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 11:20 am

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Subject: Mini 2240: SCP UPick 2 (Day 8)
GuyInFreezer wrote:
T3, aligned with
SCP foundation Researcher
, was eliminated Night 8.


Spoiler: Role PM
Lady LambdadeltaImage

Name:
Double Vision
Code:
SCP-187
Class:
Safe


Alignment:
SCP foundation Researcher


Effect when breached:
Seeing the Death
triggers on last player who voted you, if it hasn't been triggered already.

Research:
  • Seeing the Danger [Cost: 2 D-Classes]:
    You can lead her around the facility during the night and see which container is prone for breach. She will probably see few unfortunate D-Class' deaths along the way though.
  • Seeing the Death [Cost: 5 D-Classes, 2 Securities]:
    You can bring her around the facility when she feels anxious during the night. She might see a lot of deaths. And probably one of the researchers. This research can only be conducted once, for after this her mental state would be too unstable for her to potentially go through this again.
Win Condition:

Rout out all the infiltrators.


SCP 999, aligned with
SCP foundation Researcher
, was endgamed.


Spoiler: Role PM
SCP 999Image

Name:
Tickle Monster
Code:
SCP-999
Class:
Safe


Alignment:
SCP foundation Researcher


Effect when breached:
The monster is pretty harmless. It will tickle whoever initiated the breach attempt.

Research:
  • The tickling [Passive]:
    Tickle monster will hug and tickle anyone who approaches it. Visiters will be roleblocked.
  • Keeping it in check [Cost: 2 D-Class]:
    During the night, you can give the monster 2 D-Classes to keep it occupied during the night, preventing it from tickling anyone else.
Win Condition:

Rout out all the infiltrators.


Dwlee99, aligned with
Infiltrator
, survived and won!


Spoiler: Role PM
Dwlee99Image

Name:
Clone Coffin
Code:
SCP-222
Class:
Safe


Alignment:
Infiltrator


Effect when breached:
Everyone who visits you will be clonded for a day.

Research:
  • Cloning self [Cost: None]
    : During any point of the game, you can choose to conduct experiment by yourself for you were explicitly told that you are prohibited from conducting a research by duplicating D-Classes. Once you are cloned, your vote will count as two and your actions will count twice. However, the votes toward you will also count twice. This effect is permanent.
Win Condition:

Achieve parity with alive
SCP foundation Researchers
or deplete either amount of Class Ds or Security guards.


Infiltrators won!
OH fuck im clownin
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Post Post #6245 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 11:22 am

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see how ridiculous your premise is to me Nero, that I cannot argue against it because it is, frankly, not a scumtell for me because I am aware of gamestate?
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Post Post #6246 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 11:24 am

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In post 6244, SCP 682 wrote:Subject: Mini 2240: SCP UPick 2 (Day 8)
GuyInFreezer wrote:
T3, aligned with
SCP foundation Researcher
, was eliminated Night 8.


Spoiler: Role PM
Lady LambdadeltaImage

Name:
Double Vision
Code:
SCP-187
Class:
Safe


Alignment:
SCP foundation Researcher


Effect when breached:
Seeing the Death
triggers on last player who voted you, if it hasn't been triggered already.

Research:
  • Seeing the Danger [Cost: 2 D-Classes]:
    You can lead her around the facility during the night and see which container is prone for breach. She will probably see few unfortunate D-Class' deaths along the way though.
  • Seeing the Death [Cost: 5 D-Classes, 2 Securities]:
    You can bring her around the facility when she feels anxious during the night. She might see a lot of deaths. And probably one of the researchers. This research can only be conducted once, for after this her mental state would be too unstable for her to potentially go through this again.
Win Condition:

Rout out all the infiltrators.


SCP 999, aligned with
SCP foundation Researcher
, was endgamed.


Spoiler: Role PM
SCP 999Image

Name:
Tickle Monster
Code:
SCP-999
Class:
Safe


Alignment:
SCP foundation Researcher


Effect when breached:
The monster is pretty harmless. It will tickle whoever initiated the breach attempt.

Research:
  • The tickling [Passive]:
    Tickle monster will hug and tickle anyone who approaches it. Visiters will be roleblocked.
  • Keeping it in check [Cost: 2 D-Class]:
    During the night, you can give the monster 2 D-Classes to keep it occupied during the night, preventing it from tickling anyone else.
Win Condition:

Rout out all the infiltrators.


Dwlee99, aligned with
Infiltrator
, survived and won!


Spoiler: Role PM
Dwlee99Image

Name:
Clone Coffin
Code:
SCP-222
Class:
Safe


Alignment:
Infiltrator


Effect when breached:
Everyone who visits you will be clonded for a day.

Research:
  • Cloning self [Cost: None]
    : During any point of the game, you can choose to conduct experiment by yourself for you were explicitly told that you are prohibited from conducting a research by duplicating D-Classes. Once you are cloned, your vote will count as two and your actions will count twice. However, the votes toward you will also count twice. This effect is permanent.
Win Condition:

Achieve parity with alive
SCP foundation Researchers
or deplete either amount of Class Ds or Security guards.


Infiltrators won!
OH fuck im clownin
Most sad thing is that i called out right scumteam like instantly after replacing.
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Post Post #6247 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 11:25 am

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In post 6246, Enchant wrote:
In post 6244, SCP 682 wrote:Subject: Mini 2240: SCP UPick 2 (Day 8)
GuyInFreezer wrote:
T3, aligned with
SCP foundation Researcher
, was eliminated Night 8.


Spoiler: Role PM
Lady LambdadeltaImage

Name:
Double Vision
Code:
SCP-187
Class:
Safe


Alignment:
SCP foundation Researcher


Effect when breached:
Seeing the Death
triggers on last player who voted you, if it hasn't been triggered already.

Research:
  • Seeing the Danger [Cost: 2 D-Classes]:
    You can lead her around the facility during the night and see which container is prone for breach. She will probably see few unfortunate D-Class' deaths along the way though.
  • Seeing the Death [Cost: 5 D-Classes, 2 Securities]:
    You can bring her around the facility when she feels anxious during the night. She might see a lot of deaths. And probably one of the researchers. This research can only be conducted once, for after this her mental state would be too unstable for her to potentially go through this again.
Win Condition:

Rout out all the infiltrators.


SCP 999, aligned with
SCP foundation Researcher
, was endgamed.


Spoiler: Role PM
SCP 999Image

Name:
Tickle Monster
Code:
SCP-999
Class:
Safe


Alignment:
SCP foundation Researcher


Effect when breached:
The monster is pretty harmless. It will tickle whoever initiated the breach attempt.

Research:
  • The tickling [Passive]:
    Tickle monster will hug and tickle anyone who approaches it. Visiters will be roleblocked.
  • Keeping it in check [Cost: 2 D-Class]:
    During the night, you can give the monster 2 D-Classes to keep it occupied during the night, preventing it from tickling anyone else.
Win Condition:

Rout out all the infiltrators.


Dwlee99, aligned with
Infiltrator
, survived and won!


Spoiler: Role PM
Dwlee99Image

Name:
Clone Coffin
Code:
SCP-222
Class:
Safe


Alignment:
Infiltrator


Effect when breached:
Everyone who visits you will be clonded for a day.

Research:
  • Cloning self [Cost: None]
    : During any point of the game, you can choose to conduct experiment by yourself for you were explicitly told that you are prohibited from conducting a research by duplicating D-Classes. Once you are cloned, your vote will count as two and your actions will count twice. However, the votes toward you will also count twice. This effect is permanent.
Win Condition:

Achieve parity with alive
SCP foundation Researchers
or deplete either amount of Class Ds or Security guards.


Infiltrators won!
OH fuck im clownin
Most sad thing is that i called out right scumteam like instantly after replacing.
at least we got scum cephrir in that situation because i was able to find you town lol
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Post Post #6248 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 11:31 am

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Finding scum is not that hard probably.

Persuading people you are right is more hard.
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Post Post #6249 (ISO) » Mon May 09, 2022 11:33 am

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SCP is not playing a team game in my opinion, the way townies should play.

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