Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[SCP 682]

there can be 0-3 scum in either the masonry or the monastery

[butterchurn]

I found some time to sit down and work over this game a little bit. Apologies for the absence, I should be less busy in general moving forward.

- MonkeyMan in general seems to be acting in bad faith, especially lately, and I'm really struggling not to scumread the slot. I've been told that his behavior is not necessarily scummy for him (although, now that I think about it, catboi was one of the main people telling me that), but I agree with the assessment that someone made (not sure who, can't find it on a quick look) that he has been coasting a bit after the initial pressure died down. The recent interactions with Flavor Leaf and SCP just feel blatantly scummy to me, and it's getting hard to ignore.
- Malcolm's brief adventure onto the Flavor Leaf wagon left a bad taste in my mouth, but that's (to my memory) literally the only thing that I've found suspicious from him so far, so I'm willing to give it a pass for now. I think I can understand where he would be coming from, if town.
- Nero Cain seems to have come in with certain (largely incorrect) narratives that he decided to push about the game (for example, that Menalque is a lurker), with by his own admission not reading very much of the game prior to his entrance. Despite this, he stands by his own narratives and doesn't show much interest in reassessing them. This could just be poor town play, but it does make me pause and think if, for example, a fellow member of a scum team gave him a summary of thread events in their PT and that's what he's basing these narratives on. Still leaning town overall, but it is a thought that occurred to me while reading.
- I was somewhat surprised to find how much I agreed with the reads by Klick in 6240. My main difference would be having cassowary in more of a townread, FL less of a scumread, and MegAzumarill as null at best. Regardless, this makes me feel a lot better about Klick, who I was feeling fairly neutral on previously. Knowing that we're seeing the game in a roughly similar light improves their chances of being town, in my view.
- Dunnstral and cassowary still feel fairly towny to me. My one experience with Dunnstral was with him as scum, and this feels quite different to me. It's interesting how I didn't really pick up on it until he took over the slot. I think previously I was reading the posts mostly as someone new; it seemed like Lukewarm was more prominently posting. Now that it's just Dunnstral it's easier to make the mental comparison. Cassowary seems to be continuing to solve and seems to be working independently, I don't get any feeling that she is pushing a narrative or is acting in an informed manner.
- I still think Nashville is scum. I don't think their posts toDay have been towny at all. I also can't help but notice that Mala's posting has fallen off significantly, and someone on Day 1 was talking about how Mala has gotten scum a lot lately and appears to be tired of it and doesn't have a lot of stamina as scum. I think that could be what we're seeing here. I know that a lot of people's posting has fallen off, myself included, so I certainly wouldn't use that as a primary reason for a scumread. But it does line up.

[Nero Cain]

At the begining of d2 Mena made the following 5 posts

complaining about Koba scumreading him
says that he wishes that FL had vigged him
blank votes on meg and then FL
asks Malcolm to kill him

I think accusing him of being a lurker is a pretty apt statement, no?

his posts afterward have been

claiming he's not being a lurksack
says the game isn't fun
asks an irrelevant question about FL fakeclaiming d3 IC in another game
6109 and 6110 are actual content
2 posts about making fun of MM's 6111
then a blank vote on CSF

This is my 3rd game with mena and in my 2 previous games I've scum read him for a similar lack of activity/high fluff:content ratio

hence:

mena seems like a useless lurksack regardless of alignment

it was also very much a reply to

Mena likes to be a lurkfuck as scum and loses a lot of steam as the game goes - and that's present here, and he has no fire in his play.

Why is my accusation that he's being a useless lurksack an "incorrect narrative" but Kobas isn't? Do you think he's not being a useless lurksack?

and he himself has said that he's being less active.

I’m sticking with it at

minimal activity

So white knight him more?

There's a part of me that's willing to believe that you just didn't understand what I was saying but it does come off as really discredity and shadey.

and your wording is just kinda odd too:

Nero Cain seems to have come in

I'm very much allowed to have thoughts about previous games and it's not something that I accused him of d1...hence why I said it d2.

a fellow member of a scum team gave him a summary of thread events in their PT and that's what he's basing these narratives on.

so for you to believe this you have to think that my scum buddy goes "hey Nero, a guy with 300 posts is lurking." and I'm too dumb/lazy check the activity overview. I highly doubt you believe this. I know you landed on lean town but I doubt that this is an actual thought you had.

doesn't show much interest in reassessing them. This could just be poor town play,

I take umbrage with this, I was voting Wolf scum while you were busy misliming town. My reads could be wrong and garbage but so far they aren't (I'm not even hard scumreading Mena though I could understand how he could be wolf) but so far they've been ok and better than yours. Also didn't you make this same accusation against me in Polish Rap?

[mastina]

(Ngl I don't know what to do right now. I might actually resume my catchup, since:
-I am not seeing any super-duper important things to respond to,
-My preferred wagon of FL is still the leading wagon,
-I am struggling to think of things to post,
-The game is slow enough that my catchup style actually might work,
-It could help break players who have stagnated, out of their stagnation.

But, will be "done as I can", since:

V/LA from May 10th - May 20th

due to work.)

[The Keeper]

Mania subsiding, character mourning just about done - she's becoming a saint!

Back to KeeperPosting.

Also not reading the last 20 pages because ngl it's frustrating when I already have the attention span of a Twisted Spoon and I'm in catchup mode, and if there's anything important I know Mastina will catch it.

[Menalque]

This is my 3rd game with mena and in my 2 previous games I've scum read him for a similar lack of activity/high fluff:content ratio

like my =32813]800 post ISO in DnD mafia?

not sure what other games we've played but think it's more than 2

[Menalque]

I mean call me useless or whatever, it's rude and inaccurate but sure

but calling me a lurksack is just such blatant intellectual dishonesty that I can't let that stand

[Menalque]

Koba qualified it by saying that they think I'm a lurksack as scum more often which is true, but I'm also just not as active as I used to be and don't force myself to play anymore if I'm not enjoying it

[Menalque]

in my 2 previous games I've scum read him for a similar lack of activity/high fluff:content ratio

*incorrectly scumread, we might also add

[Nashville Dreams]

there's prob 1 mafia in the monks and 1 wolf in the masonry and thats prob klick so meg and tictac are town?

Why Klick over Meg?

[Nashville Dreams]

(Ngl I don't know what to do right now. I might actually resume my catchup, since:
-I am not seeing any super-duper important things to respond to,
-My preferred wagon of FL is still the leading wagon,
-I am struggling to think of things to post,
-The game is slow enough that my catchup style actually might work,
-It could help break players who have stagnated, out of their stagnation.

But, will be "done as I can", since:

V/LA from May 10th - May 20th

due to work.)

How in the world can you still favor an FL elimination given his accuracy, claim, and guaranteed not bussing?

[Nashville Dreams]

Dunn isn't hunting, all he cares about is why I'm scum reading him.

I've felt weird about that hydra and their interactions with me. Can you give a summary of your exact position?

[MonkeyMan576]

Why do I feel like mastina is biding time.

[Nashville Dreams]

Why do I feel like mastina is biding time.

Biding time for what? Why?

This post and last were Titus.

[Cephrir]

votecount 2.6

Cat Scratch Fever (7) | Flavor Leaf, Nashville Dreams, bnuuy, tictac, Ydrasse, Save The Dragons, Menalque

Flavor Leaf (5) | Klick, Dunnstral, mastina, MonkeyMan576, Cat Scratch Fever

Nashville Dreams (3) | butterchurn, Enchant, MegAzumarill

butterchurn (1) | SCP 682
MonkeyMan576 (1) | The Keeper
bnuuy (1) | cassowary
Dunnstral (1) | Nero Cain
Menalque (1) | Sword of Ducks

Not Voting | MalcolmTucker

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to politely ask someone to leave.

Deadline: (expired on 2022-05-20 20:06:00).

[MonkeyMan576]

I don't know. Probably related to her role.

[Nashville Dreams]

I don't know. Probably related to her role.

I know you find FL as the better elimination but I find the only reason mastina would stall to buy time is to give CSF more time. She (if she has a role) would still be able to act today. I don't recall mastina stating a read on CSF.

[Nashville Dreams]

Also, I hold mastina to a higher standard than you.

[MonkeyMan576]

What’s that supposed to mean. I don’t remember the last time I v l a d.

[Nashville Dreams]

What’s that supposed to mean. I don’t remember the last time I v l a d.

Please rephrase. I don't know what l v l a d means.

[bnuuy]

he's saying he doesn't recall when he last went on VLA

[Nashville Dreams]

he's saying he doesn't recall when he last went on VLA

Thanks for clarifying.

I don't see what MM has to deal with Mastina possibly stalling.

If he meant mastina, the misgender is confusing.

Clarify please?

[MonkeyMan576]

VLA sorry, my phone was autocorrecting my acronyms.

[MonkeyMan576]

Yes, I meant mastina, sorry.

I just find mastina's low activity suspicious in general.

[The Keeper]

Being V/LA is irrelevant. If you're using VLA to dodge a game because you're taking fire you need to reconsider what character you're playing. Because that's even shittier than having enemies spawn on you.

I've been V/LA while I've been manic and had an extra day because of appointments and ya know, losing a character you've had since 2016 hurts a bit.

I am literally not moving my vote from you. You are genuinely being an Evil Twin.