Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

[Nero Cain]

I just feel like the scum are using the no-we-aren't-you-are defense and aren't providing any decent reasoning.

I could be wrong and town can and will disagree with me. Of the ppl not voting Dunn, I feel like Butters tunnel on ND is +scum. I'll talk about Enchant more in-depth later but I think he might be on the south side of null for me. Didn't like CSF's vote on YD earlier but felt like the earlier wagon on her was mostly reasonless. Still think that Meg's end of d1 was sus and haven't been thrilled with their latest contributions.

Mena isn't even playing. tic tac? you could maybe argue that they are lurk scum but I'm not gung ho on either.

Mastina is still scum. Tucker is still scum.

Keeper is eh? content is lacking and the posting is annoying as fuck but they weren't all that helpful in IA so eh?

Klick not consolidating on Toog despite scum reading him was also anti-town.

Ducks is a teenager.

There are about 4 or 5 people that I think are scummy off his wagon. I am well aware that I'm getting sheeped by scum so it's not some black and white everyone off the Dunn wagon is scum and everyone on is town.

[MonkeyMan576]

I think we are pretty algined on our reads, Nero.

[tictac]

remember townreading dunn hydra and interaction w parity seemed towny. would prefer not to go there.
could go enchant if scrathy wagon doesnt revive but kinda hope it does.

[Nero Cain]

interaction w parity seemed towny.

????

[tictac]

hes basically begging to be parity checked

[MonkeyMan576]

yeah but he's saying he could come up guilty in a parity check so there's no real point on wasting a check.

[Nero Cain]

he is? I sorta got the impression that he and MM are trying to argue that he and I will show up as different wincons b/c he's a Hisarute which I think is sorta bullshit.

[tictac]

that's the impression i got anyways

[Nero Cain]

not that I was scumreading Dunn for this but its a pretty funny coincidence

Oh look. A game is happening.

We are Hirsute (werewolf miller)

VOTE: well done

mafia goon spotted

Given the way the last game played out, I think that I would be even more scared to fake claim a miller role in this game then your average game, and I am already too big of a chicken to fake claim a miller role lol

holy crap i thought i posted more in this game 22 posts wow i'm probably scum

can't believe i found this and then just immediately believed dragons when he said he wouldn't crumb like that

Well Done is using the same/similar excuse as traitor STD did in another game.

[Nero Cain]

that's the impression i got anyways

we could ask him point blank

DUNN DO YOU WANT THE PARITY COP TO CHECK YOU?

[tictac]

lol. have u been observing my games?

[Nero Cain]

no. Why do you ask?

[tictac]

cause u pointed out the miss marple, and i just used it to push math last game.
turned out i was wrong.

[Dunnstral]

yeah but he's saying he could come up guilty in a parity check so there's no real point on wasting a check.

I never said that

[Dunnstral]

that's the impression i got anyways

we could ask him point blank

DUNN DO YOU WANT THE PARITY COP TO CHECK YOU?

Sure

[MonkeyMan576]

There wasn't a miller type role in the last game right?

[Save The Dragons]

The first game featured a Mafia Miller.

this is literally in the opening posts

[MonkeyMan576]

That requires reading.

[bnuuy]

His sorting feels genuine, plus he SR me which he always does as town

I don't know if this is a good way to read me but why are you NOT scum reading me? You pushed me as scum in our last 5 games and then ???

I didn’t push you in our last full game, that was actually where I realized your pattern of pushing me as town and not doing so as scum. I got frustrated at a few things that game and ended up replacing out after it felt like you snapped at Kerset for emotionally supporting me. There’s one other thing I would like to hash out but that’s 100% not something to discuss publicly.

[bnuuy]

*vanilla cop also does not work against werewolves

The logic for this feels off
The example PM is probably written with the assumption of singleball
Something to take up after this game finishes perhaps

[Save The Dragons]

Cat Scratch Fever (3) | Flavor Leaf, tictac, Menalque

Flavor Leaf (1) | mastina
Ydrasse (1) | The Keeper
Menalque (1) | Sword of Ducks
cassowary (1) | MalcolmTucker
Enchant (1) | Klick

dear tictac

i wish CSF were happening, but it's not. we tried it, it didn't work. we gotta let it go. i know it sucks but please pick a wagon.

dear menalque

i know you're kind of jaded with this game but for the sake of playing can you pick a wagon or just sheep a tr for a bit until you get back into the game? i believe in you

dear mastina

flavor leaf isn't happening today. please move on.

dear the keeper

if you insist on playing the way you do, you're going to hold the town hostage. if you insist on making 2 votes a day, stop voting randomly and join wagons please

dear sword of ducks

i know you're not always up on the game but if you don't join a wagon we're going to sit here for 200 more pages and then you'll be like "what happened" and the answer will be the game continued stagnating because you didn't join a wagon

dear malcolmtucker

why are you so wagon-phobic it literally feels like you're going out of your way to avoid wagoning people. you're probably just scum here that people don't want to wagon for some reason but on the chance that you're town please pick a wagon

dear klick

i don't know where this sudden desire to kill enchant came from but it's not happening today, if it were people would have sheeped you. we have 2 wagons right now and we really need people to just pick one

[Dunnstral]

*vanilla cop also does not work against werewolves

The logic for this feels off
The example PM is probably written with the assumption of singleball
Something to take up after this game finishes perhaps

Yeah so is Gunsmith but multiple players have claimed it doesn't work against werewolves. What makes vanilla cop different?

[Sword of Ducks]

dear sword of ducks

i know you're not always up on the game but if you don't join a wagon we're going to sit here for 200 more pages and then you'll be like "what happened" and the answer will be the game continued stagnating because you didn't join a wagon

someone gimme a vote count

[Nero Cain]

yeah but he's saying he could come up guilty in a parity check so there's no real point on wasting a check.

I never said that

then I don't really get what you are saying.

It's irrelevant because I'm a hirsute. I don't interact with cops at all.

but in the example that you gave in 6900 you have a wolf give a result of not vanilla. If a wolf gives a result other than "no result" it's still a result. If wolves don't interact with cops and thus the action fails they should get a no result. Also, the idea that wolves (that have no additional abilities) give a pr result seems kinda dumb to me. It should work the same way with all factions, imo. I guess the idea that a faction is immune to all forms of cops except a specially named seer seems kinda cool but it's poorly documented. There is no hirsute page, the werewolf page does give much info, and alpha werewolf redirects to godfather. Mine and most players (well I assume) just see wolf as a flavored version of mafia with no difference.

now the miller page does say

In Online Werewolf, the Miller is called a Lycan and is unaware of his Lycan status.

but I have never seen this and it's not normal. I'm 99% certain that the mods on this site have just been using hirsute as a flavored wolf miller and I feel like you are just being deceptive right now.


What does your role pm actually say? After you asked the mod any questions?

that's the impression i got anyways

we could ask him point blank

DUNN DO YOU WANT THE PARITY COP TO CHECK YOU?

Sure

Why? If you believe that you don't interact with cops wouldn't you think that a cop check on you is a waste?

[Nero Cain]

even if hirsute was something other than just a miller, you'd still have a town wincon unless you just aren't town.