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Post Post #7125 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 12:17 pm

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In post 7123, Nero Cain wrote:tbh, the vanilla cop page hasn't been updated since 2019 so there's a chance that its not accurate. Also agree with Gamma's take that it might have singleball in mind.

I had felt like you were trying to just bullshit us here but there's a chance that you are just sitting there and going by what the wiki says and acting like it's a bible. Wich one could argue is scummy in and of itself.

Wolves always showing as a pr if checked by a vanilla cop just doesn't seem right and needs to be fixed after the game.
Why does it matter if a vanilla cop targets me anyway? I don't understand why this is the hill you are willing to die on

You realize that by claiming a role I always show up as not vanilla, right?
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Post Post #7126 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 12:18 pm

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In post 7123, Nero Cain wrote:tbh, the vanilla cop page hasn't been updated since 2019 so there's a chance that its not accurate. Also agree with Gamma's take that it might have singleball in mind.

I had felt like you were trying to just bullshit us here but there's a chance that you are just sitting there and going by what the wiki says and acting like it's a bible. Wich one could argue is scummy in and of itself.

Wolves always showing as a pr if checked by a vanilla cop just doesn't seem right and needs to be fixed after the game.
Yeah, agree with this.

That was one of my scummier things Dunn was doing, but it’s less so now, even if he is doing it as scum. I did also like his post on Ydrasse.
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Post Post #7127 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 12:24 pm

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In post butterchurn said that parity cop was like vanilla cop
In post / I point out that this is a bad comparison, give the reason why, and conclude by saying that vanilla cop is
also
flavored towards one faction while quoting the wiki (which supports what I am saying)


Not once have I ever said that a vanilla cop gets a different kind of result when targeting me. I've said the opposite, that all cops get normal results when targeting me. A hirsute is not vanilla, so I would show up as not vanilla, which is not a helpful result.
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Post Post #7128 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 12:59 pm

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I believe parity cop checking Miller of any type with someone else will compare with "visible Miller faction".

So it's technically possible to hunt for "Wolf/Not Wolf" if you compare someone else with Wolf Miller, but why don't check masons/monks/just someone else instead is another question.


Also, 99% parity cop is fakeclaim, 1% it was weird flex, because ...
... Well really. Revealing self to say that monk cannot be wolf. Yeah. Uh. Like.. it's not even funny, it's painful.
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Post Post #7129 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 1:00 pm

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: )
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Post Post #7130 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 1:07 pm

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Get away, parity crop
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Post Post #7131 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 1:09 pm

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Im gonna check your alignment tonight

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Post Post #7132 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 1:12 pm

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I don't know if i should be proud or disgusted
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Post Post #7133 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 1:56 pm

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In post 7128, Enchant wrote:I believe parity cop checking Miller of any type with someone else will compare with "visible Miller faction".

So it's technically possible to hunt for "Wolf/Not Wolf" if you compare someone else with Wolf Miller,
Instead of guessing let's check the wiki!

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... e_.2849.29
Hirsute Townie (49)
You are a Hirsute Townie.

Abilities

During the Day, you may vote for whomever you want eliminated.
Hirsute: You will investigate as "GUILTY"
to Seers.

Win Condition

You win when there are no longer any threats to the Town and at least one Town-aligned player is still alive, or nothing can prevent the same.
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Post Post #7134 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 2:10 pm

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Oh yeah, makes sense to get role pm from some different setup.

But fairly i don't care. Nor should anyone else actually.
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Post Post #7135 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 2:11 pm

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In post 7134, Enchant wrote:Oh yeah, makes sense to get role pm from some different setup.
As opposed to making stuff up, yeah
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Post Post #7136 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 2:12 pm

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What are you basing:
In post 7128, Enchant wrote:I believe parity cop checking Miller of any type with someone else will compare with "visible Miller faction".
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Post Post #7137 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 2:12 pm

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In post 7068, butterchurn wrote:am not very excited to follow some of the names who are pushing the wagon
Funny--that's how I've felt with the Dunnstral, Nashville Dreams, and Cat Scratch Fever wagons.
In post 7058, MonkeyMan576 wrote:and not caring to even try to seem town.
Funny thing about that.

Town don't need to try and look town. Because they are town, they know themselves to be town, and they have full confidence that, knowing they are town, their townness will show through on its own.

So you are quite correct. I'm not caring to even try to seem town, because town is not the alignment who would do that.

My townness shows on its own.
In post 7060, MonkeyMan576 wrote:I'll vote MT if I have to but it's not my first choice by far.
Well my first choice is Flavor Leaf and my second choice would be bnuuy and my third choice would be Enchant and my fourth choice would be you and my fifth choice would be butterchurn, so like.

Malcolm's not nearly at the top of my list, either; he's literally my sixth choice. (Seventh is cassowary, eighth is Klick.)

But it's called compromising and to quote your own words back at you: Pretty munch vanity wagons are a vote for a no elimination at this point. If you reject the Malcolm wagon, you're just being obstinate at this point or are anti-town.
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Post Post #7138 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 2:13 pm

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Prodding The Keeper.
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Post Post #7139 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 2:15 pm

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In post 7136, Dunnstral wrote:What are you basing:
In post 7128, Enchant wrote:I believe parity cop checking Miller of any type with someone else will compare with "visible Miller faction".
on?

UGH.

Common sense?
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Post Post #7140 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 2:18 pm

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You're wrong because it's multiball and hirsute does not affect the investigative checks of cops in any way. Only seers.
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Post Post #7141 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 2:20 pm

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In post 7106, Dunnstral wrote:Or rather, a cop but for werewolf flavors. Determines if somebody is a werewolf or not.

Cops can get results on me normally, I'm only a miller for the werewolf side. You are a cop.
Haaaang on
Ydrasse, clarify this for me: your role doesn’t function on just the mafia alignment right?
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But it’s not always intentional.”

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Post Post #7142 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 2:20 pm

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Idk, i more think as millers like "Looks like them" like universally.

Parity Cop is somewhat exception in my eyes. Like how werewolf based Parity Cop will look?
Parity Seer? Jeez. And what difference?
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Post Post #7143 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 2:21 pm

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Ydrassu claimed that it checks for "Same wincons"
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Post Post #7144 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 2:25 pm

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Yeah but Dunn is still beating on about “it’s a cop so it doesn’t relate to me” when iirc even vanilla cop has been said the be a case of square peg round hole for the name
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But it’s not always intentional.”

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Post Post #7145 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 2:25 pm

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VANILLA SEER
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Post Post #7146 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 2:27 pm

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In post 7142, Enchant wrote:Idk, i more think as millers like "Looks like them" like universally.

Parity Cop is somewhat exception in my eyes. Like how werewolf based Parity Cop will look?
Parity Seer? Jeez. And what difference?
I'm not a miller, I'm hirsute.
I don't give false investigative results to cops.
That's what a miller does.

That's the difference.
I'm not a miller.


A parity cop is not a seer, and would see me as town.

I linked the wiki to you. Do you want me to ask the mod or do you just not believe me? Or do you want to ask the mod? I don't get the angle you are arguing here. You see how it is written but say "this is how I think it should work"
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Post Post #7147 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 2:28 pm

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VOTE: bnuuy
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Post Post #7148 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 2:31 pm

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Mastina wrote:Town don't need to try and look town.
I hard disagree with this. Mafia is a social game, and you have to be able to read the room in order to get things done. If no one thinks you are town, then people will just roll their eyes any time you post, and gravitate towards the players they think are the most town.
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Post Post #7149 (ISO) » Sun May 15, 2022 2:32 pm

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Hmmm.

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