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Post Post #7900 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:41 pm

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Is kill flavor indicative of the kill done?

If it is that would indicate if FL shot RC and the butter person?
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Post Post #7901 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:44 pm

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Lemme ask Cephrir really quick.
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Post Post #7902 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:45 pm

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If I'm scum, I would have to be Mafia.

And I said all day yesterday I'd be killing Mastina, and people were even holding me to it.

Wolves don't kill Mastina.

You're angle shooting because you try to push me as scum every single game at some point, and you dont like that im conf town here.

And we've just talked and talked so much about all the other stuff you've brought up, that i just dont have the energy to be the one to catch you up.
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Post Post #7903 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:47 pm

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In post 7894, MathBlade wrote:If Klick is not a mason then Tic Tac and Meg are confirmed to all be lying about masonry yeah?

need to stop this.

zero chance it's a lie, even if somehow they were all scum.
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Post Post #7904 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:49 pm

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In post 7903, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 7894, MathBlade wrote:If Klick is not a mason then Tic Tac and Meg are confirmed to all be lying about masonry yeah?

need to stop this.

zero chance it's a lie, even if somehow they were all scum.
I’m confused.

In normal games masons are town aligned

Why would I need to stop asking questions about someone I have a result I couldn’t get a check on?

Yes I do tend to scumread you but I have also townread you before as well

I am just asking questions to piece things together

If you’re as town as you say you are me poking around won’t change anything.
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Post Post #7905 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:49 pm

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math regardless of what night flips have happened just acknowledge that flavor leaf is not a prophet and cannot predict that wolves are going to shoot mastina for him on a night where he is supposed to do just that to prove himself.
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Post Post #7906 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:49 pm

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Masons are conf not Mafia.

This is multiball.

SPC, STD, and I are Monks, and confirmed not Wolves.
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Post Post #7907 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:50 pm

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u are moonlogicking


I'd like you to actually put your focus on reading Nashville, who is titus, after seeing you thoroughly dismantle a scum titus on replacing in in my recent game.
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Post Post #7908 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:51 pm

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In post 7905, SCP 682 wrote:math regardless of what night flips have happened just acknowledge that flavor leaf is not a prophet and cannot predict that wolves are going to shoot mastina for him on a night where he is supposed to do just that to prove himself.
No it would just have to be the mafia night kill done on a mafia, which would be pro win con.

I did something similar shooting Karnos in Shadowrun.

I want to figure out which alignment did which kill.
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Post Post #7909 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:51 pm

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So I'm going for Klick/MonkeyMan slot as the fade today. Don't like the 1-shot Gunsmith yesterday then now there's more. It's off in one of the places.
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Post Post #7910 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:51 pm

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is flavor was town he would have taken me up on the idea to shoot outside to dodge a possible mafia doc rather than blast his own partner with the nightkill.

is it possible he did blast mastina? sure.

is is stupid to do so and make yourself a target to wolves? very much so.

so the chances FL is scum who has laid out a shitty plan to win is very low, near 0.
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Post Post #7911 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:52 pm

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In post 7908, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7905, SCP 682 wrote:math regardless of what night flips have happened just acknowledge that flavor leaf is not a prophet and cannot predict that wolves are going to shoot mastina for him on a night where he is supposed to do just that to prove himself.
No it would just have to be the mafia night kill done on a mafia, which would be pro win con.

I did something similar shooting Karnos in Shadowrun.

I want to figure out which alignment did which kill.
this. is. multiball. that theory is ridiculous.
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Post Post #7912 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:53 pm

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sorry but considering FL as scum here considering what has happened so far is just a stupid train of thought to follow when there are 5 scum left and you can hunt for what you may believe are the 4 other ones.

leave FL alone. there is more than enough evidence for him town and trying to pursue a shitty theory about how he could be scum if he did the most stupid play possible is not helpful.
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Post Post #7913 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:53 pm

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In post 7907, SCP 682 wrote:u are moonlogicking


I'd like you to actually put your focus on reading Nashville, who is titus, after seeing you thoroughly dismantle a scum titus on replacing in in my recent game.
Admittedly yes it’s a bit out there

But if we’re conf towning Flavor Leaf we need to eliminate any possibility he’s scum. He’s that good and gets ridiculous clears.

To be frank I don’t have a read on Titus yet. My reason I was able to scope her out easily last game is because of my role and how she responded and then just gave up. Whatever her alignment she seems interested which is either town or someone I can extract info or wine from so I will go with town for now.
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Post Post #7914 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:54 pm

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In post 7908, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7905, SCP 682 wrote:math regardless of what night flips have happened just acknowledge that flavor leaf is not a prophet and cannot predict that wolves are going to shoot mastina for him on a night where he is supposed to do just that to prove himself.
No it would just have to be the mafia night kill done on a mafia, which would be pro win con.

I did something similar shooting Karnos in Shadowrun.

I want to figure out which alignment did which kill.
Math, just dont focus on me this game. focus on other slots over me here.

Enchant had just died the day before.

For what it's worth, everytime someone has pushed me as scum killing a partner, they have flipped scum.

I quoted this earlier.


Also, I have had near perfect reads this entire game, had Vig threat, and conf not wolf by way of Monkery.

It's stupid to get rid of Mastina, who isnt really easy to fade especially considering she had that Beloved Princess claim, and waste teammates like that.
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Post Post #7915 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:55 pm

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In post 7914, Flavor Leaf wrote:Also, I have had near perfect reads this entire game, had Vig threat, and conf not wolf by way of Monkery.

this makes me high night kill possibility, so it just doesnt have merit.

and like i said, ive gotten pushed this exact way multiple times, and it comes from scum generally.
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Post Post #7916 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:55 pm

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In post 7906, Flavor Leaf wrote:Masons are conf not Mafia.

This is multiball.

SPC, STD, and I are Monks, and confirmed not Wolves.
Oh so they’re not conf town they are confirmed not mafia

Definitely down for a Klick wagon then

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Post Post #7917 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:55 pm

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even if we consider that he did blast his own partner?

a) why? how does he advance his own wincon?
b) it literally opens him up to being blasted by wolves who, I might remind people, have a lead right now over mafia 3 - 2
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Post Post #7918 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:56 pm

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In post 7910, SCP 682 wrote:is flavor was town he would have taken me up on the idea to shoot outside to dodge a possible mafia doc rather than blast his own partner with the nightkill.

is it possible he did blast mastina? sure.

is is stupid to do so and make yourself a target to wolves? very much so.

so the chances FL is scum who has laid out a shitty plan to win is very low, near 0.
He just doesn’t feel right

I see the other posts to focus elsewhere but he feels wrong.

Like I can’t explain it.

I am going back to figuring out the kills.

And sure FL you quoted that. Here I am town saying you feel weird.
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Post Post #7919 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:57 pm

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People act like killing a partner as scum is something that I would ever do or come up with.

You can't just force kill a scum partner.
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Post Post #7920 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:57 pm

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In post 7918, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7910, SCP 682 wrote:is flavor was town he would have taken me up on the idea to shoot outside to dodge a possible mafia doc rather than blast his own partner with the nightkill.

is it possible he did blast mastina? sure.

is is stupid to do so and make yourself a target to wolves? very much so.

so the chances FL is scum who has laid out a shitty plan to win is very low, near 0.
He just doesn’t feel right

I see the other posts to focus elsewhere but he feels wrong.

Like I can’t explain it.

I am going back to figuring out the kills.

And sure FL you quoted that. Here I am town saying you feel weird.

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Post Post #7921 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:58 pm

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And yes I am going to try to figure out the kills assuming FL is town for the record
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Post Post #7922 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:59 pm

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In post 7920, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 7918, MathBlade wrote:
In post 7910, SCP 682 wrote:is flavor was town he would have taken me up on the idea to shoot outside to dodge a possible mafia doc rather than blast his own partner with the nightkill.

is it possible he did blast mastina? sure.

is is stupid to do so and make yourself a target to wolves? very much so.

so the chances FL is scum who has laid out a shitty plan to win is very low, near 0.
He just doesn’t feel right

I see the other posts to focus elsewhere but he feels wrong.

Like I can’t explain it.

I am going back to figuring out the kills.

And sure FL you quoted that. Here I am town saying you feel weird.

I had 1.2k posts Day 1.
Yes there’s no way I can read that much.

That’s why I am saying sure believe that and move on.

I have stated you’re off to me

Now I am trying to move forward assuming you’re town. Please let me
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Post Post #7923 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 3:59 pm

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In post 7919, Flavor Leaf wrote:People act like killing a partner as scum is something that I would ever do or come up with.

You can't just force kill a scum partner.
It can make sense in a singleball setup -> but definitely not here in multiball.

I have seen Alisae seriously consider it in a setup where eliminating scum day 3 guaranteed a win and only didnt because she had a win con available.
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Post Post #7924 (ISO) » Mon May 23, 2022 4:02 pm

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Assuming FL is town

Toogeloo, Town Voyeur, politely asked to leave Day 1. << Elimination
RCEnigma, Werewolf 1-shot Bookie, fled town Night 1.

MalcolmTucker, Town Hirsute Saint, politely asked to leave Day 2.
Enchant, Mafia Goon, exorcised Day 2.

Ydrasse, Town 1-shot Parity Cop Mayor, fled town Twilight 2.

mastina, Mafia Loathed 2-shot Activated Wolfsbane 1-shot Roleblocker, fled town Night 2.
butterchurn, Malefactor 1-shot Watcher, fled town Night 2.

Fled town is some sort of gun.
Exorcised is some sort of occult thing? Maybe werewolves being gory?

If we assume FL town then butterchurn would have to be mafia kill
And exorcism werewolves

Unless wolves didn’t kill N1 or N2?
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