Mafia Invictus Redux [Game Over]

[Dunnstral]

OK so, I don't like posts 32 or 34 because I don't like the way they are hopping on to Datisi this early. 39 Is not the same in my mind.

As for Datisi, I think they are pretty good at faking tone as scum, at least at the start of the game, I don't have a read on them right now. I don't consider that to be contradictory to the above because I am not reading them as scum

[Fey]

OK so, I don't like posts 32 or 34 because I don't like the way they are hopping on to Datisi this early. 39 Is not the same in my mind.

As for Datisi, I think they are pretty good at faking tone as scum, at least at the start of the game, I don't have a read on them right now. I don't consider that to be contradictory to the above because I am not reading them as scum

How do you feel about his lack of reaction to those votes?

Even if early, and even if some aren't serious, they're there. One of them had a... nudge, in Datisi's direction. ("Did you roll scum again?")

And then there's just not an indication that this is a worry in his head. Towny or scummy to you?

[Dunnstral]

One of them had a... nudge, in Datisi's direction. ("Did you roll scum again?")

I think calling that a nudge is being generous

What do they expect Datisi to say in response to that?

I see it as them low-key giving reasoning for their vote (they suspect Datisi)

[Datisi]

Dear friend, to break this law would bring
Untimely doom upon our heads. We must

am i bad at english or is this line missing a beat?

also, i do have a response to 51, let me know if it's of interest to someone after dunn responds.

[Dunnstral]

And then there's just not an indication that this is a worry in his head. Towny or scummy to you?

If you mean Datisi neither right now

51 from you feels towny to me

[Fey]

One of them had a... nudge, in Datisi's direction. ("Did you roll scum again?")

I think calling that a nudge is being generous

What do they expect Datisi to say in response to that?

I see it as them low-key giving reasoning for their vote (they suspect Datisi)

Maybe, but it's something that has his name in it and even if it's a rhetorical question it could... bait in some interaction? Where I feel in a game with limited posts you might want to take up that... intro, so that you can talk about something like "haha why are you guys all voting me."

I don't expect a reply to that statement specifically but rather a broader acknowledgement or broaching of what's going on.

I dislike you zeroing in on the specific statement when I -feel- the sentiment I was posting about was fairly obvious but meh, for now.

[Fey]

@Dunn, fair enough then. Why do you think that it was towny?

@Datisi, what reply did you have?

[VP Baltar]

To post perchance to hunt, to find the scum
A challenge hard and harder still for we
A post restriction have — we must of old
Out write our words — ten beats the line no more
No less, a pattern of da-dun da-dun
How Shakespeare wrote: the old pentameter

VOTE: datisi
Old friend, old foe, I greet thee here with love
~Rhyme

You're not going to do this the whole game are you?

Dear friend, to break this law would bring
Untimely doom upon our heads. We must
Upkeep our way to speak, until such point
that Liberty be left to us by grace
~Rhyme

So do you have to write in pentameter or iambic pentameter?

Also, do you get leeway for goofs? Seems very easy to mess up.

[fireisredsir]

vp it feels like you're using a lot of your limited posts on things that are unrelated to alignment or moving the game forward

[Dunnstral]

I liked that you seemed to have a lot to talk about after my post 50 instead of disappearing from the thread after voting Datisi

And I thought it was reasonable too

[Datisi]

@Datisi, what reply did you have?

i get wagoned early in the game literally all the time now. i'm awkward at the start of the game because i never know what to do.

i didn't have a response to the votes because nothing good comes from responding to them. why are they voting me? because i'm awkward. no shit. getting into an argument about it now would just make me look desperate, and thus, even more awkward. just play the game normally, they'll either see the error of their ways or they're going to have to justify their vote on me once i have actual content out.

do you think me ignoring the votes on me is scummy? why?

[Fey]

I liked that you seemed to have a lot to talk about after my post 50 instead of disappearing from the thread after voting Datisi

And I thought it was reasonable too

I don't really have a reply to this other than "okay, it doesn't make me go hmmm" but it's acknowledged.

(I feel an obligation to keep things neater I guess, with fewer posts, and not trying to like.. lead people down rabbit holes of trying to see if I have replies when I don't).

@Datisi, what reply did you have?

i get wagoned early in the game literally all the time now. i'm awkward at the start of the game because i never know what to do.

i didn't have a response to the votes because nothing good comes from responding to them. why are they voting me? because i'm awkward. no shit. getting into an argument about it now would just make me look desperate, and thus, even more awkward. just play the game normally, they'll either see the error of their ways or they're going to have to justify their vote on me once i have actual content out.

do you think me ignoring the votes on me is scummy? why?

I mean, from my perspective ignoring things that are happening around you/about you is a worse look than making a genuine effort, and it feels... bad, scummy, whatever word, that you are pre-emptively going "well I'm awkward so I can't, or won't" (yes these aren't your exact words but I get that feeling) and you're letting it slide and then everyone wastes the pressure and nothing's gained from it. People might be voting you because they want to read you and the content you provide from that.

Especially in a game where you have to be frugal and can't just spew out endless thoughts, having an in to conversation (why are you all voting me?) is of greater benefit than usual.

(However, if nothing else engaging this sidelines the issue of not responding to the wagon/awkwardness I guess? Maybe?)

[VP Baltar]

vp it feels like you're using a lot of your limited posts on things that are unrelated to alignment or moving the game forward

I'm not super worried about the daily post restriction. This thread will blow up while I sleep inevitably, so I'd rather interact with people before I'm behind.

Also, I think my questioning of datisi was actually fruitful, and understanding RR's post restriction is kind of important.

I'd say I'm moving the game in a way I find useful.

Pedit - datisi, when did you start getting wagoned D1 for being awkward? Idk if I've seen that. This is a recent development?

[Meuh]

Limitations are so limiting. I love and hate how limiting limits tend to be when it comes to how they limit you. It's very limiting and limit? Post office post limit limit break limit postmodernism, limit limiting limit 125 posts limit limit; maximum ceiling cap limit post restraint brake limit.

Stop limit post 125 curtailment diminution lessening limit post limit post limit. 125 posts limit limiting not more than 125.

Reduction damper upper limit buffer post 125 limitations restrictions tax upper limit dayphase emergency post limit. Vote cap questions limit.
Reserve limit post replace-in 125 posts. Slot dayphase limit!

Entire game keep track limitation post restriction 127 minus 2 game limit.

I like 11, Datisi generally looks good in my eyes. 24 hints at actual scum hunting, which is always nice.

VP's 25 is quite good. It's a jokey statement; but it feels like a joke a townie would come up with more than scum would.

48 has some pretty solid vibes, honestly! 27 reads like having a want to solve. Bit of mindmeld. Overall a bit of a townread on fire.


VOTE: takotsubo syndrome
Definitely want more there

[Bell]

I’m assuming the rhyme & reason thing isn’t a chat restriction because it’s irrelevant to the theme.
If it is, you need to clearly state this is the case in your next post and you need to spell out the consequences to breaking it.

[marcistar]

do you think me ignoring the votes on me is scummy? why?

my impression of when ur town is that ur kinda good at finding stuff out, but you don't have enough confidence in yourself and your reads, so i think ur mafia gameplay would be kinda similar? i dont think ive ever seen u as mafia before but i think its very possible u would avoid responding to votes because you don't want to make it a "big deal" and the focus of the game, i think as scum u dont want the spotlight even close to u..? i imagine you very timid as scum >.<

SO
i think ignoring the votes on u is scummy :>

[Datisi]

@fey, i'll be providing content at my own pace, irregardless of if they're voting me or not. why is the onus on me to have to interact with the naked votes on me rather than on them to give me something to actually respond to within their votes?

@baltar, it has happened a few times. it's past 1am and i'm done studying for the night so i'm heading to bed, i can go over my games tomorrow morning to find examples. it does more often happen when i'm scum, though i think not exclusively.

i imagine you very timid as scum

lol.

[Dunnstral]

I’m assuming the rhyme & reason thing isn’t a chat restriction because it’s irrelevant to the theme.
If it is, you need to clearly state this is the case in your next post and you need to spell out the consequences to breaking it.

Why do they need to do that?

[Meuh]

I’m just sitting here tongue tied. How does one shit post with a mere 150 posts?

The dat’s/baltar thing is interesting.

But not really the main drive this dp I hope.

I’ve seen enough of Baltar and dat’s last games. To where I’d rather see them in the periphery. I sound like FL. /:

*watches*

@tako: easily done.

I don’t have any feelings on the gorilla, sk,

I feel I probably should on fire. Just based on their first posts but eh.

I guess I see generally potential scummy things that have been said before but there’s not much like motivation so much as sentence structure similarities. Context iirrelevant.

Is my post large enough yet?
How about now?

Bolded bits of this post read genuine and actively trying to solve. Feels nuanced in a way hard to emulate, if that makes any sense? Already voicing concern on where we'll be focusing our attention seems well-motivated if actually trying to get scum limmed today.

@Marci what's up with the all caps posting??

[Bell]

Because gotta cut through the bullshit. It’s hard enough to figure out people’s alignments without faking chat restrictions.

[Fey]

@fey, i'll be providing content at my own pace, irregardless of if they're voting me or not. why is the onus on me to have to interact with the naked votes on me rather than on them to give me something to actually respond to within their votes?

It's not an end-all, be-all "you MUST reply or else" situation, because you're not being ran up for anything more than I guess, alleged awkwardness? From people before me. No one can make you do anything, and despite this conversation I am aware that you aren't me and we might view this differently, but... it's just an opportunity I'd think a lot of people would take if they wanted to get into hunting and meaning it, rather than letting it sluice off like water.

~

I think this has potential to be a fundamental disagreement in how we view early wagons/what we might do individually, so I don't have anything else to add on this topic for now; I don't think us going back and forth will do good for either of our post counts either, so I'm going to let this topic die down for now and let you do your thing.

[Fey]

Limitations are so limiting. I love and hate how limiting limits tend to be when it comes to how they limit you. It's very limiting and limit? Post office post limit limit break limit postmodernism, limit limiting limit 125 posts limit limit; maximum ceiling cap limit post restraint brake limit.

Stop limit post 125 curtailment diminution lessening limit post limit post limit. 125 posts limit limiting not more than 125.

Reduction damper upper limit buffer post 125 limitations restrictions tax upper limit dayphase emergency post limit. Vote cap questions limit.
Reserve limit post replace-in 125 posts. Slot dayphase limit!

Entire game keep track limitation post restriction 127 minus 2 game limit.

I like 11, Datisi generally looks good in my eyes. 24 hints at actual scum hunting, which is always nice.

VP's 25 is quite good. It's a jokey statement; but it feels like a joke a townie would come up with more than scum would.

48 has some pretty solid vibes, honestly! 27 reads like having a want to solve. Bit of mindmeld. Overall a bit of a townread on fire.


VOTE: takotsubo syndrome
Definitely want more there

What do you think of the content after your last referenced posts? We disagree on at least one (but how many, I won't say now) read here, so I'm curious on your perspective of what comes after.

~

Also, I'm stopping posting when I hit 18 for the day. I want to mete out what I say so that I have an even number everyday.

[LavarManos]

Hi all. 125 posts per day doesn't seem like too much of a restriction.
I actually like Fey for bandwagoning to Datisi, but don't really have any opinion on the other votes or anyone else rlly

VOTE: Meuh
I feel like you're trying to do too much out of the gate? I mean, if you're town, I don't want to discourage you from solving. But it doesn't feel natural to me at least.

[Bell]

Hi all. 125 posts per day doesn't seem like too much of a restriction.
I actually like Fey for bandwagoning to Datisi, but don't really have any opinion on the other votes or anyone else rlly

VOTE: Meuh
I feel like you're trying to do too much out of the gate? I mean, if you're town, I don't want to discourage you from solving. But it doesn't feel natural to me at least.

Was the original account owner kidnapped?

[Val89]

For example, a Mafia Godfather or a Town Invictus Bulletproof would be fair game while an

Iambic Pentameter Post-Restricted Townie

or a Mafia Global Role Randomizer would not be.

I'll be honest, I'm not sure a Iambic Pentameter Post-Restricted Mafioso, in a game where the townie equivalent has been specifically disclaimed from existing, would pass review as being a touch too town-sided, but I wouldn't mind been wrong on that score.