Mafia Invictus Redux [Game Over]

[Prism]

Vote Count 1.2

FLAVOR

"What'll happen to this place when Tesla moves in, Dale? You dodged the fires of '11, but you think this'll do you in?" asked Tom before taking the first bite of his pulled pork sandwich.

"What do you mean? Plenty of new business, them folks gotta eat and you know I work hard, got the best food in town. All fresh. I'm excited, might finally be able to buy a new truck. Heard they got one...or will soon"

"Yeah, they eat soybeans and lab meat and organic seaweed and all sorts of crap. They ain't got no personality, all buildings of glass and fake marble, all lookin' the same. Even if one or two of 'em do got a lick of sense, property taxes gonna go up, rent's gonna go up, it's all gonna go up. I'd sure hate to see you go but you're probably better off rentin' or sellin'."

"Well you just wait and see how they like the coleslaw. Ain't never heard your kid complain!"

Player	Votes
Datisi (5)	marcistar (19), Val89 (32), Rhyme and Reason (39), Fey (49), SirCakez (196)
LavarManos (4)	gorilla (92), Kovu (166), Meuh (173), fireisredsir (191)
marcistar (3)	Lukewarm (94), VP Baltar (182), Dwlee99 (199)
Bell (3)	Lady Lambdadelta (175), Gammagooey (201), Datisi (239)
Meuh (1)	LavarManos (72)
Not Voting (4)	Bell, Dunnstral, Enchant, takotsubo syndrome (130)

With 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to eliminate.

No elimination has been achieved. The Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2022-06-03 13:48:00).

Spoiler: Postcount Tracker

Player	Daystart postcount	Reserves
Bell	0	10
Fey	0	10
fireisredsir	0	10
Lady Lambdadelta	0	10
takotsubo syndrome	0	10
Lukewarm	0	10
Dunnstral	0	10
Rhyme and Reason	0	10
Meuh	0	10
Val89	0	10
marcistar	0	10
Dwlee99	0	10
Gammagooey	0	10
Kovu	0	10
VP Baltar	0	10
Datisi	0	10
LavarManos	0	10
Enchant	0	10
SirCakez	0	10
gorilla	0	10

Posts are capped at 125 posts per slot per dayphase. Please see the Ruleset and FAQ for more information and tips on tracking your postcount.

[Prism]

After observing the amount of V/LA notifications/requests made for this weekend, which is a holiday weekend in the United States, I have decided to make a global accommodation for Memorial Day.

The 24 hours of Monday, May 30th, will not count against minimum activity requirements, and I will not count those 24 hours when issuing any prods. I will generally use Eastern Standard Time but as I am not restricting this to just American players, I can revoke a prod that happens as a result of you being elsewhere and thus slightly off. I will make a note of this change in the Ruleset.

The deadline has been revised to add 24 hours in light of the above. This will be updated both in the OP & in previous votecounts.

Have a wonderful weekend, everyone, and enjoy any trips or vacations you may be on!

The new Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2022-06-03 13:48:00).

[Datisi]

i dunno. when you lay it out like that, it definitely doesn't look great but i'm not sure it's that damning. i like that you noticed it, though.

[VP Baltar]

ive been wrong before.

Yeah, that is exactly my point. Like, you're wrong in every game with me. You call me town when I'm scum, and scum when I'm town. You can point to me being suss of you for bad reasons in past games, but the fact is that I arrive at the correct answer on you fairly quickly, and I've basically got your meta as "inability to read me accurately." You saying I should be suss of your bad reasoning when I know this (and frequently point out in other games that I know this) is a pretty dim view of my ability to learn from past games, yeah?

i dunno. when you lay it out like that, it definitely doesn't look great but i'm not sure it's that damning. i like that you noticed it, though.

[VP Baltar]

I would like to point out that Marci voted Datisi in post 19 saying "I THINK HE COULD BE SCUM"

But the reason being presented once he became a real wagon was because he was ignoring votes - which distinctly cannot be the reason why she voted him originally in post 19, because Datisi had zero posts between Baltar casting the first vote on Datisi and Marci voting Datisi

UNVOTE:
VOTE: marci

Doing my daily catch up currently, but I think fire's exchange with marci probing their thought process and how it doesn't actually track (posts 84 and 86), as well as Marci's tepid response, combined with luke's point here are pretty solid reasons to think Marci could be scum who got a little too overconfident early.

mod, you missed my vote move

Fixed!

[Datisi]

what does that emoji mean.

[Bell]

The baltar whine about not being read correctly by red sure is a post of very low quality

[Bell]

Can someone vig sircakez.

[VP Baltar]

The baltar whine about not being read correctly by red sure is a post of very low quality

That is not what that post is about. Are you even reading the game?

VOTE: bell

Watch out!

@datisi - it means I find your comment silly

[fireisredsir]

Can someone vig sircakez.

town

[Datisi]

i find it funny how baltar says how i might be scum yet keeps sheeping me on my every vote

curious

[VP Baltar]

i find it funny how baltar says how i might be scum yet keeps sheeping me on my every vote

curious

That is why I said it is a hot take!

I actually just don't like wolfy pop ins like that. Always punish the pop in!

[Prism]

I would like to point out that Marci voted Datisi in post 19 saying "I THINK HE COULD BE SCUM"

But the reason being presented once he became a real wagon was because he was ignoring votes - which distinctly cannot be the reason why she voted him originally in post 19, because Datisi had zero posts between Baltar casting the first vote on Datisi and Marci voting Datisi

UNVOTE:
VOTE: marci

Doing my daily catch up currently, but I think fire's exchange with marci probing their thought process and how it doesn't actually track (posts 84 and 86), as well as Marci's tepid response, combined with luke's point here are pretty solid reasons to think Marci could be scum who got a little too overconfident early.

mod, you missed my vote move

This has been corrected, thank you for pointing out it!

I am counting all votes by hand and know I am extremely fallible, so please follow Baltar's example and correct me, publicly or privately, if you notice I have made any errors!

[Kovu]

honestly, this isn't going to work with everyone V/LA and those that are here just kinda... *there*

It's probably +town that Tako was all "don't waste a cop check on Kovu" but other than that, there's nothing from any of these other voices, and like everyone is V/LA soooo yeah is fun

[marcistar]

meuh needs to have more scumreads imo

[Lukewarm]

Sorry I have not been here. Been running a little thin.

Main take away from the last couple pages is that I'm pretty sure dunn is always town here. I don't think scum dunn ever makes that argument about kovu (regardless of kovus alignment)

[Lukewarm]

meuh needs to have more scumreads imo

What changed? We you not just shooting down someone's scum read on her?

[gorilla]

Somewhat confused that Datisi is still the lead wagon, and that most of the votes there are from RVS. The cakez vote on him is kind of bad. I prefer the marci votes to the ones on Bell, don't get why people are hopping there.

[Lukewarm]

Datisi wagon bad imo

Think Datisi >Rand town

Scum on Datisi probably VP and or Marci?

Possibly a late vote like fay

I find this wagon analysis confusing. When you say it is bad, do you mean scummy?

And if you think the wagon is scummy, why are you most suspicious of the first and second vote on the wagon, over votes 3-5?

@dwlee

[Lukewarm]

I think the wagon is on town!dats + there is scum on it

First two people I just found independently scummy and the "last vote more scummy than 3-5" is kinda baseless beyond I feel like it

Oh my bad.I just missed your answer.

[Lukewarm]

I don't know how I feel about the response.

[Kovu]

Sorry I have not been here. Been running a little thin.

Main take away from the last couple pages is that I'm pretty sure dunn is always town here. I don't think scum dunn ever makes that argument about kovu (regardless of kovus alignment)

so you're town locking dunn for the exact reasons I no longer TR him? nothing about that was related to the game at all, and where is game related content from dunn? I'm not seeing any. Feels like a really odd reason to town lock him

[gorilla]

Lavar's response to 166 in 232 feels selective. He deliberately avoided responding to Kovu's main criticisms of him which seems like he's hoping to avoid pressure by ignoring it. Very hard to see town not responding to an accusation by someone they're supposedly town reading.

[gorilla]

Enchant
Fey
LavarManos
marcistar
Rhyme and Reason
SirCakez
takotsubo syndrome
VP Baltar


Scum in here, maybe?

[Meuh]

meuh needs to have more scumreads imo

Sircakez looks bad in general but I’m fine with waiting for more content since he’s VLA. Perhaps a clash in thought process but 197 reads very unnatural.

Datisi’s 260 looks pretty bad to me tbh. I’m conflicted on its alignment. His early posting which bothered people didn’t bother me but some of his more recent posting rubs me the wrong way. Still not particularly compelled to push there

I think there’s scum (probably like 2) in tako/Enchant/Lambda/Lavar/RR/Val. I’m getting a lot of townie vibes from the general activity of the game if that makes any sense? and those are the 6 that either haven’t said much or haven’t done that much that stuck to me as indicative of much.

You could also be scum but like I said before, that’s not something I’m particularly keen on figuring out at the moment

Pedit: oh Gorilla’s list is similar to what I’m thinking lol