Not Quite Normal Multiball II (Game Over)

MathBlade · Post Post #10125 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:10 pm

In post 10124, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 10113, MathBlade wrote:You are scum Titus

Town you would eliminate mafia no questions asked

I have zero desire to get into a shitfest with you.
Titus is never wolf here, so unless she’s the mafia she’s town.

We are confirmed unaligned now.

Why do you say she’s never wolf?

She’s been scummy all game I just don’t believe she’s town here

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #10126 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:11 pm

In post 10080, MathBlade wrote:
In post 10072, Nero Cain wrote:like I'm fine with FL and it's very possible that he just is the last mafia but if he's not its prob Keeper but if he is then he has a chance to kill wolves and limit our wolf pool so...other than a very basic "leaving alive an anti-town shot is bad!" I don't really see it as the sky is falling like math "chicken little" does
It’s more we’re running out of time to keep town dominant.

If FL is not scum we need him flipped.

Multiball relies on town dominance or wolves will control our fate

This isn’t entirely true by any means.

If the actual last mafia flips, it doesn’t matter if i flip or not

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #10127 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:11 pm

In post 10125, MathBlade wrote:
In post 10124, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 10113, MathBlade wrote:You are scum Titus

Town you would eliminate mafia no questions asked

I have zero desire to get into a shitfest with you.
Titus is never wolf here, so unless she’s the mafia she’s town.

We are confirmed unaligned now.
Why do you say she’s never wolf?

She’s been scummy all game I just don’t believe she’s town here

Her and Catboi are not Wolf/Wolf

MathBlade · Post Post #10128 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:11 pm

In post 10123, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 10122, MathBlade wrote:
In post 10120, Nero Cain wrote:ok Math, FL is the last mafia. Who are the wolves?
Titus Menalque +1

A funny clip on the Internet made me realize SoD is only scum with Titus but I think something else instead.

I blame youtube.
Who is the plus 1?

Not sure yet. I kinda expect to die after FL flips red so I was hoping to start healthy conversation .

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #10129 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:11 pm

She also has no reason to defend me the way she has as a Monk.

MathBlade · Post Post #10130 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:12 pm

In post 10127, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 10125, MathBlade wrote:
In post 10124, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 10113, MathBlade wrote:You are scum Titus

Town you would eliminate mafia no questions asked

I have zero desire to get into a shitfest with you.
Titus is never wolf here, so unless she’s the mafia she’s town.

We are confirmed unaligned now.
Why do you say she’s never wolf?

She’s been scummy all game I just don’t believe she’s town here
Her and Catboi are not Wolf/Wolf

Why not?

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #10131 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:12 pm

In post 10128, MathBlade wrote:
In post 10123, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 10122, MathBlade wrote:
In post 10120, Nero Cain wrote:ok Math, FL is the last mafia. Who are the wolves?
Titus Menalque +1

A funny clip on the Internet made me realize SoD is only scum with Titus but I think something else instead.

I blame youtube.
Who is the plus 1?
Not sure yet. I kinda expect to die after FL flips red so I was hoping to start healthy conversation .

In that scenario, it doesn’t make sense. If i were mafia, wolves have no reason to kill you

Nashville Dreams · Post Post #10132 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:12 pm

In post 10130, MathBlade wrote:
In post 10127, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 10125, MathBlade wrote:
In post 10124, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 10113, MathBlade wrote:You are scum Titus

Town you would eliminate mafia no questions asked

I have zero desire to get into a shitfest with you.
Titus is never wolf here, so unless she’s the mafia she’s town.

We are confirmed unaligned now.
Why do you say she’s never wolf?

She’s been scummy all game I just don’t believe she’s town here
Her and Catboi are not Wolf/Wolf
Why not?

The VCA you're running from. It also clears me as mafia.

MathBlade · Post Post #10133 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:12 pm

In post 10129, Flavor Leaf wrote:She also has no reason to defend me the way she has as a Monk.

Yes she does.

I already explained why.

This is a pointless discussion.

You’re going to flip red and are scum siding.

Nashville Dreams · Post Post #10134 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:13 pm

In post 10131, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 10128, MathBlade wrote:
In post 10123, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 10122, MathBlade wrote:
In post 10120, Nero Cain wrote:ok Math, FL is the last mafia. Who are the wolves?
Titus Menalque +1

A funny clip on the Internet made me realize SoD is only scum with Titus but I think something else instead.

I blame youtube.
Who is the plus 1?
Not sure yet. I kinda expect to die after FL flips red so I was hoping to start healthy conversation .
In that scenario, it doesn’t make sense. If i were mafia, wolves have no reason to kill you

+1, Mafia kills me or Nero if not the most likely StD as he's the last conf not wolf

MathBlade · Post Post #10135 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:13 pm

In post 10132, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 10130, MathBlade wrote:
In post 10127, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 10125, MathBlade wrote:
In post 10124, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 10113, MathBlade wrote:You are scum Titus

Town you would eliminate mafia no questions asked

I have zero desire to get into a shitfest with you.
Titus is never wolf here, so unless she’s the mafia she’s town.

We are confirmed unaligned now.
Why do you say she’s never wolf?

She’s been scummy all game I just don’t believe she’s town here
Her and Catboi are not Wolf/Wolf
Why not?
The VCA you're running from. It also clears me as mafia.

I already debunked your bad VCA

Stop bringing up debunked points

Nashville Dreams · Post Post #10136 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:14 pm

In post 10135, MathBlade wrote:I already debunked your bad VCA

Stop bringing up debunked points

Where's yours then?

MathBlade · Post Post #10137 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:14 pm

In post 10134, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 10131, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 10128, MathBlade wrote:
In post 10123, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 10122, MathBlade wrote:
In post 10120, Nero Cain wrote:ok Math, FL is the last mafia. Who are the wolves?
Titus Menalque +1

A funny clip on the Internet made me realize SoD is only scum with Titus but I think something else instead.

I blame youtube.
Who is the plus 1?
Not sure yet. I kinda expect to die after FL flips red so I was hoping to start healthy conversation .
In that scenario, it doesn’t make sense. If i were mafia, wolves have no reason to kill you
+1, Mafia kills me or Nero if not the most likely StD as he's the last conf not wolf

Nah Mafia and wolves both have reason to kill me

I am not arguing with one conf scum and another likely scum

Bicker amongst yourselves

MathBlade · Post Post #10138 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:15 pm

In post 10136, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 10135, MathBlade wrote:I already debunked your bad VCA

Stop bringing up debunked points
Where's yours then?

Done several times

Especially Cass wagon.

Bye

Nashville Dreams · Post Post #10139 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:15 pm

My kingdom for a vig shot.

Nero StD FL, you guys decide.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #10140 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:24 pm

Math, Bnuuy, Menalque, TicTac have 2 scum probably exactly in them.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #10141 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:27 pm

Math/TicTac/Bnuuy could be a possible team. If Math is a wolf, I can see them getting both of their partners to try and push me here.

If Math is Wolf, I feel like they do truly think I’m mafia.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #10142 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:35 pm

Looking back on it, I feel like Mathblade specifically knows that they got roleblocked by Mastina because their kill didn’t go through Night 2, and then is using logic coming from a Wolf POV not understanding why Mastina wouldn’t roleblock me on that night, and using that as logic to push me.

It actually does kinda make sense, I can see why from their POV, they could see me as scum killing scum.

And a MathWolf world kills CSF over STD because STD was more willing to vote on Math’s side.

This means Klick wouldn’t necessarily be cleared, but could only be scum with Mathblade.

If Mafia ever flips, I become Conf town, and am off the fade table.

Maybe I’m looking too much into it. Idk.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #10143 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:38 pm

You know what, I think Math is a wolf trying to fade me because they think I’m mafia trying to kill them at night.

I think they thought that I knew they were a wolf earlier, and took a stance against it, and now they’re too deep.

I’m just looking at the possibilities in a Klick town world, and Mathblade TMI’ing thinking I’m Mafia who shot Mafia.

Sword of Ducks · Post Post #10144 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:42 pm

In post 10140, Flavor Leaf wrote:Math, Bnuuy, Menalque, TicTac have 2 scum probably exactly in them.

Let's agree to agree on this.

MathBlade · Post Post #10145 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:44 pm

In post 10144, Sword of Ducks wrote:
In post 10140, Flavor Leaf wrote:Math, Bnuuy, Menalque, TicTac have 2 scum probably exactly in them.
Let's agree to agree on this.

Take your scritches and be wrong.

I think I finally get your plan if you’re town but it’s really antitown if I am right.

Please just talk.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #10146 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:44 pm

Their push kinda falls apart now that it’s confirmed Titus and I can’t be aligned, but then pushing us is a brick wall attempt.

With what Mathblade has said, their flip would incriminate me, I feel like flipping them actually is now optimal, because if they flip town, i don’t get incriminated, I’m conftown.

And then they have high wolf potential. If they flip wolf, I’m not cleared, but we catch scum. If they flip town, i am cleared (or caught for completion’s sake). And if they flip Mafia, I’m Conf town as well.

In any of these worlds, I die within the next few phases too, so it assures I don’t make it to the end. Wolves kill me for taking out their wolf partner if wolf. If I’m Conf town, i become a night kill priority, and if math flips mafia, I’m still Conf town and they have to risk me solving, which i believe I’m on the right path.

The only situation to me that makes sense right now that Mathblade needs me dead is if they are a Wolf thinking I’m going to kill them.

Nashville Dreams · Post Post #10147 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:44 pm

In post 10143, Flavor Leaf wrote:You know what, I think Math is a wolf trying to fade me because they think I’m mafia trying to kill them at night.

I think they thought that I knew they were a wolf earlier, and took a stance against it, and now they’re too deep.

I’m just looking at the possibilities in a Klick town world, and Mathblade TMI’ing thinking I’m Mafia who shot Mafia.

That is consistent with Math 180ing on whether or not you should be the lim after Cephrir's announcement.

Inclined to believe Math's slip though. I'd begrudgingly compromise on Math/bnuuy/Melanque.

Still prefer Math/SoD/Keeper.

Nashville Dreams · Post Post #10148 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:45 pm

In post 10146, Flavor Leaf wrote:because if they flip town, i don’t get incriminated, I’m conftown.

I don't see this.

Flavor Leaf · Post Post #10149 (ISO) » Tue Jun 07, 2022 4:47 pm

In post 10147, Nashville Dreams wrote:
In post 10143, Flavor Leaf wrote:You know what, I think Math is a wolf trying to fade me because they think I’m mafia trying to kill them at night.

I think they thought that I knew they were a wolf earlier, and took a stance against it, and now they’re too deep.

I’m just looking at the possibilities in a Klick town world, and Mathblade TMI’ing thinking I’m Mafia who shot Mafia.
That is consistent with Math 180ing on whether or not you should be the lim after Cephrir's announcement.

Inclined to believe Math's slip though. I'd begrudgingly compromise on Math/bnuuy/Melanque.

Still prefer Math/SoD/Keeper.

It also feels like Math is having trouble solving for a full wolf team, but for everyone else we have plenty of full teams we can spurt out as possibilities, but it feels like they’re trying to leave things open with the +1 talk.