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Post Post #1900 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 12:57 pm

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In post 1897, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1885, Save The Dragons wrote:dealing with family issues at the moment.

i'm a 1 shot doc, i protected over90 night 1
Sorry to hear about your family :/

Gamewise this sounds like a total fakeclaim. Why weren't you suspicious of RCE at all?
Oh I meant to reply to this too.

I think the 1-shot is the most town thing about the claim.

Using the 1-shot doc on N1 though is… hmm
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Post Post #1901 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 1:07 pm

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In post 1893, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:VOTE: not known 15
Do you think scum interact with me like NK15 has? I guess NK is sort of piggybacking off over90 but I kind of doubt scum bother pushing me tbh
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Post Post #1902 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 1:32 pm

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I feel like 1-shot is more often a fakeclaim because then you only have to make up one target - less room for a slip or guilty from something like a watcher or tracker
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Post Post #1903 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:09 pm

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if the question was wh do scum fakeclaim 1x then I think this is a valid answer but town roll 1x all the time, so what just PL all the x1?
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Post Post #1904 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:34 pm

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If STD wants to be mad st me for what I'm about to say then fine but...
In post 1867, Save The Dragons wrote:jesus christ i don't have the mental energy for this today
In post 1885, Save The Dragons wrote:dealing with family issues at the moment.
like maybe you could argue that this sort of
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y reaction is just scum

I'm not sure that I buy that a 1x doc should have been sus of a full doc/rc combo. roleblocker isn't even a protective role, like I could get one you could classify it as one but it's listed as a manipulation role. JK, RC/DOC combo, and a 1x doc doesn't seem like it would be some combination that couldn't exist.
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Post Post #1905 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:36 pm

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Nero, what do you think of STD claiming to have used it on N1 though?
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Post Post #1906 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:38 pm

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Why EVEN waste your only shot on fucking N1 IN LARGE GAME.
I don't believe in that.

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Post Post #1907 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 2:39 pm

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also, Elsa was essentially a named goon where some pressure already existed. Sending him to do the nk instead of risking your presumably pr buddies and/or ones with less suspicion makes plenty of sense. Not sure why Math doesn't think that or why STD agreed with that questionable logic.
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Post Post #1908 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:23 pm

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In post 1905, DeasVail wrote:Nero, what do you think of STD claiming to have used it on N1 though?
I think I'm ok with it? Like being a xshot role wanting to kinda use your role early makes some sense to me and is prob pretty common amongst xshoters. Like sure I get it, if he held onto his shot it might have a greater value going forward but then if he doesn't use it and gets ran up he obviously wouldn't be yelled and screamed at for not using it. That NEVER happens. :roll: Also, as Cakez himself points out over was one of the big town reads, does it really make no sense at all that he'd target that? You could maybe say that he should have been on one of the numerous pr claims so I guess you could argue that it's a bad action. But I sorta feel like him claiming that he already used it instead odf like waving it around that he still has a shot and we shouldn't lim him so he can use it feels a lil' bit genuine to me.

I don't think his posting is the best so maybe he could just be scum and I'm overthinking it. I'm also pretty ok riding Mala.
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Post Post #1909 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:24 pm

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In post 1901, DeasVail wrote:Do you think scum interact with me like NK15 has? I guess NK is sort of piggybacking off over90 but I kind of doubt scum bother pushing me tbh
Why would scum not bother pushing you?
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Post Post #1910 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:46 pm

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I wouldn't scream for 1-shot not wasting it instantly. Unless it's Cop in hot spot/Vig.

Throwing protection on first night, when it's unlikely as hell to catch NK is borderline useless and i expected STD to be better than that.
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Post Post #1911 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 3:57 pm

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In post 1907, Nero Cain wrote:also, Elsa was essentially a named goon where some pressure already existed. Sending him to do the nk instead of risking your presumably pr buddies and/or ones with less suspicion makes plenty of sense. Not sure why Math doesn't think that or why STD agreed with that questionable logic.
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Post Post #1912 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:02 pm

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In post 1910, Enchant wrote:I wouldn't scream for 1-shot not wasting it instantly. Unless it's Cop in hot spot/Vig.

Throwing protection on first night, when it's unlikely as hell to catch NK is borderline useless and i expected STD to be better than that.
Agreed I think StD is scum. 1 shot protection on N1 reads like no effort
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Post Post #1913 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:11 pm

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I could see the logic where scum go "ok, let's not send Elsa b/c he's more likely to be targeted." but I think my logic that sending out an expendable goon and not wanting t put others at risk isn't necessarily wrong either.

but if you are right, doesn't that mean that Elsa wasn't the killer n1 and something else happened to the shot?
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Post Post #1914 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:15 pm

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In post 1913, Nero Cain wrote:I could see the logic where scum go "ok, let's not send Elsa b/c he's more likely to be targeted." but I think my logic that sending out an expendable goon and not wanting t put others at risk isn't necessarily wrong either.

but if you are right, doesn't that mean that Elsa wasn't the killer n1 and something else happened to the shot?
I think Elsa was the killer. I just think it’s not what I would do.

I also think we should end the day soon because we don’t want things to stagnate

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Post Post #1915 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:44 pm

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Stagnate? The thread has been open like 12 hrs, and not mafia and mashed have yet to check in. And kitty has only made 1 post that didn’t say anything
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Post Post #1916 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:45 pm

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In post 1901, DeasVail wrote:
In post 1893, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:VOTE: not known 15
Do you think scum interact with me like NK15 has? I guess NK is sort of piggybacking off over90 but I kind of doubt scum bother pushing me tbh
Very possible they haven’t thought that much about it tho
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Post Post #1917 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:50 pm

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In post 1915, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Stagnate? The thread has been open like 12 hrs, and not mafia and mashed have yet to check in. And kitty has only made 1 post that didn’t say anything
Agreed. That was a bit strange
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Post Post #1918 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:56 pm

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In post 1909, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1901, DeasVail wrote:Do you think scum interact with me like NK15 has? I guess NK is sort of piggybacking off over90 but I kind of doubt scum bother pushing me tbh
Why would scum not bother pushing you?
I generally think that scum tend to be more thoughtful about their pushes and with NK pushing me for exactly the same thing over90 did D2, which got no traction, it feels... like scum wouldn't do that.
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Post Post #1919 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:57 pm

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but Cat raises a good point that scum might not be as thoughtful as I assume them to be
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Post Post #1920 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 4:59 pm

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In post 1917, DeasVail wrote:Agreed. That was a bit strange
but Math is town so when you call it strange you mean exactly what?
In post 1918, DeasVail wrote:NK pushing me for exactly the same thing over90 did D2, which got no traction, it feels... like scum wouldn't do that.
this sounds EXACTLY like something scum would do. IMO
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Post Post #1921 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:07 pm

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I mean clearly town do agree with each other from time to time but scum parroting or sheeping is a thing so it just seems ??? when someone says scum wouldn't do that b/c scum absolutely would do that.
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Post Post #1922 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:08 pm

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In post 1920, Nero Cain wrote:but Math is town so when you call it strange you mean exactly what?
it means exactly what I said it means
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Post Post #1923 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:09 pm

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In post 1921, Nero Cain wrote:I mean clearly town do agree with each other from time to time but scum parroting or sheeping is a thing so it just seems ??? when someone says scum wouldn't do that b/c scum absolutely would do that.
also the main reason I didn't think it would happen is because no one bit when over90 when pushing it, but it's not that important
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Post Post #1924 (ISO) » Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:13 pm

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In post 1917, DeasVail wrote:
In post 1915, Cat Scratch Fever wrote:Stagnate? The thread has been open like 12 hrs, and not mafia and mashed have yet to check in. And kitty has only made 1 post that didn’t say anything
Agreed. That was a bit strange
Yep it’s strange. I think there’s a good reason to end the day I put in the hood Mala can vouch for me.

I just put a BS reason here I thought would be convincing.
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