Mathblade also Cleric’d me Night 3, so there’s another missing kill solution. All of which are being somehow pushed as less likely happening than me killing my own scum partner.
This is the last thing STD said before Mathblade flipped Town and he promptly got NKed.
This obviously would point to FL.
In post 11199, The Keeper wrote:Other than genuinely having the worst attitude I've ever seen you have, you've been using subtle manipulations all game long.
And no, nothing does prevent me from gladiating you tomorrow - I said I'm going for FL though, and thats where I'm going. I'm sticking to what I've said.
And while I live, you're on Death's List - and I plan to take you down in due course.
On the other hand, the choice of NKing Keeper is more complex. Keeper had expressed interested in gladiating FL but told Nero that faer planned to take him down per my interpretation of the quoted. If I'm not misinterpreting, 11196 furthers the idea that fae was interested in gladiating Nero.
I think townies are Freedom, Klick, and Sword right now. With ND being Mafia. Explains her position here of going Math then into me which she seemingly set up today.
Meaning town just probably lose.
Wolves can’t die unless a a wolf bus or Mafia assists.
There is no kill tonight meaning hitting a wolf is better than hitting Mafia because it lowers their numbers because right now Wolves have total control over this game.
My fade essentially locks it in.
You know that Klick and I can’t be wolves. Let us hunt wolves today. The Mafia out there needs this too, so literally all 4 townies + the Mafia need to hit the wolf, or get a wolf to bus.
If I die, town is in a position where 1 wrong vote, loses the game.
Wolves need to be hit. All the kills are used up. Wolves get hit Day 6, then any scum Day 7.
You can call it OMGUS all you want, but I think it is highly evident that my entire wagon is scum.
They are not scum hunting, they are Flavor hunting which leads to an exact Wolf victory.
If you can’t believe I am town, even if I were Mafia, it’s still Flavor hunting, because my slot dies, wolves win right now with 3 wolves alive. They might even think I am Mafia, and are afraid I kill them if I live.
So the town in Freedom, Nashville, Sword, and Klick, we need to hit wolves. Whichever is Mafia needs to work with town here to hit a wolf.
All 5 of our slots have to be together or this is a wolf victory.
Even if you think I am scum, I can only be Mafia, and it would be required for me to work with town no matter what here.
Bnuuy always flips scum this game. Please, the 5 of us need to fade there.
So these are the wagons from Day 2 (mine) and Day 3 (dunn's), I believe, it eventually turned into a Malcolm Tucker wagon to end the day. I have always said, scum is in the purple.
Both Math and Cass flipped green.
These wagons have scum on them. They just do. Menalque is a Wolf who was on both of these with TicTac partner on me, and Bnuuy partner on Dunn. The fact that there are zero flipped wolves on either of these wagons proves Menalque and TicTac have at least 1 wolf within them based on the Flavor wagon, but it's more likely there are 2.
Menalque/Bnuuy for wolves on Dunn, meaning Nero/ND has the last Mafia most likely.
End of Day 2 Wagon
This ones a little more damning for Mafia, Enchant was the hammer, so it's likely a 2nd mafia was here. what is missing is a wolf, but that TicTac slot fills it so very nicely.
End of Day 3
This ons is the most telling. There are zero flipped scum on the wagon thus far, and the 5 slots are Menalque, Nero, Bnuuy, ND, TicTac. The only off wagon are me on FL, and Sword not voting. I can't be a wolf. Sword is more likely Mafia if scum as well. Meaning all 3 wolves are on this Dunn wagon, likely with the actual mafia member.
It is physically impossible for there to not be at least 2 wolves on that Dunn wagon.
Dunnstral, Cassowary, Malcolm, and MonkeyMan all ended up getting misfaded in the days following.
The only scum that died was Mastina, because I killed her.
TicTac/Menalque is all that's left on that wagon, and it just happens to have zero wolves flipped, and just happened to be unable to get those wagons? The reason the other wagons were able to go through were because they were town. I've colored them orange.
Combine that with the Dunnstral wagon at the end of Day 3.
I actually messed up in the previous post when I said that Dunnstral wagon was Day 3. It was a Day 2, and this is the Day 3 Dunnstral wagon along with my wagon. Look at the similarities between the two Dunnstral wagons.
In conclusion, Menalque/Bnuuy/TicTac are the entire wolf team.
And one of Nashville or Nero is Mafia.
I do not believe Mafia isn't on that Day 3 Dunn wagon, and it is automatically confirmed at least 2 wolves are on that wagon, I believe all 3 since I don't see Sword as scum at this point. Their ND vote doesn't make a lot of sense as Wolf here.
TicTac is the one thats on all 3 in Dunnstral (hammered), Malcolm, and Flavor wagons.
Also Bnuuy hammered Day 4, Tictac hammered Day 3. A switch off, showing that wolves have been in control in when days have been ending if I am correct, which I believe I am.
I am monk confirmed not to be a Wolf, so even if you dont think I'm town, trust my wolve solve here.
Mafia needs wolves just as much, if not more, than town does.
I don’t care if this is wrong or not, wolves go for it it town
I agree with you in almost every sense
I don't think this town can come together for a win. But I'd like a chance to try, as the player currently holding the cards.
I mean, sure, but I think we need to kill scum first then wolf hunt and hope to hit them all in a row, unless my elo math is off
That means we kill FL today and I’m realistically very unlikely to ever shift from here
I still think Nero slot is likely town, why do you think they could be scum?
You haven't actually explained why you think we need to vote Mafia today Menalque
You've just said you don't care if you're right on FL or not you just want to vote him
The time to do that was D1.
I don’t care if this is wrong or not, wolves go for it it town
I agree with you in almost every sense
I don't think this town can come together for a win. But I'd like a chance to try, as the player currently holding the cards.
I mean, sure, but I think we need to kill scum first then wolf hunt and hope to hit them all in a row, unless my elo math is off
That means we kill FL today and I’m realistically very unlikely to ever shift from here
I still think Nero slot is likely town, why do you think they could be scum?
You haven't actually explained why you think we need to vote Mafia today Menalque
You've just said you don't care if you're right on FL or not you just want to vote him
The time to do that was D1.
In post 11298, Klick wrote:If its so obvious that we should vote Mafia today, prove it in a conversation with me please Menalque
I mean I did do that D1 iirc
kill maf bc if we're right then we get a shot to kill wolves tomo and we maybe get to Elo
also no faith in this town to ever kill FL if we can't do it today
if FL is somehow town here then the game is deeply fucked but he's been one of the most present slots given that he's made like 1800 posts or whatever it is now, and I don't think we have any chance of solving successfully without knowing which alignment the slot is, even if it's v v likely maf