large normal 239. game over

[SirCakez]

VOTE: rcenigma
Mod told me they are scum

[SirCakez]

Eh, let me know when things get serious. I’ll be back later.

Why not make them serious yourself?

[SirCakez]

Seems like Nero is pre apologizing for being scum

[SirCakez]

VOTE: carca
I don't like 82

Nero in response to a few pages ago I was being silly

[SirCakez]

Can we just not delve into setup spec when we have literally zero information as a whole.

Why even make this post the setup spec was fine

[SirCakez]

Can we just not delve into setup spec when we have literally zero information as a whole.

Pretty sure Nero is town

[SirCakez]

Ignore that Nashed quote my phone has a bug

why was your only comment to bring up something someone else mentioned?

I mean I really didn't have much to comment on while catching up. Majority of what has been posted looks like it's been in jest aka the traitor/jester/mason claim.
This just very serious in like a very jokey time & felt very off.

This is such a scum thing to post

VOTE: takotsubo

[SirCakez]

I find it funny ppl shaded kitty for not wanting to case early and then shaded italiano for casing early. Or was it setup spec? Either way it felt a bit trigger happy there.

Who are people? This is shade casting without anyone in specific named

[SirCakez]

Can we just not delve into setup spec when we have literally zero information as a whole.

Pretty sure Nero is town

Can you elaborate why?

Just have a pretty good vibe

[SirCakez]

Last game I pushed several people early and they were all town. I don't want to repeat my mistakes.

honestly, this doesn't make me feel any better lol. I mean maybe I could see you go "oh my reads were really bad last game so I'm going try to let others lead." but then I think there's a good chunk of possible scum motivation in that.

This is a good point I use this excuse as scum all the time

[SirCakez]

I never said I read the game for meta. I also never said I metadived you. So let’s not get too carried away with putting words in my mouth or twisting my thoughts.

I just said it felt off in terms of you casing NC very early.

Yeah that post is just gross. VOTE: takotsubo syndrome

Ignore that Nashed quote my phone has a bug

why was your only comment to bring up something someone else mentioned?

I mean I really didn't have much to comment on while catching up. Majority of what has been posted looks like it's been in jest aka the traitor/jester/mason claim.
This just very serious in like a very jokey time & felt very off.

This is such a scum thing to post

VOTE: takotsubo

VOTE: takotsubo syndrome

Do you have anything of your own to add to this vote?

[SirCakez]

I don't have a read on Italiano yet his posting style makes him hard for me to read

[SirCakez]

Pretty happy with the Tako wagon

[SirCakez]

Do you have anything of your own to add to this vote?

No.

VOTE: NK15

can someone pls explain the scum motive behind tako's post because like, I don't see it

I don't think Tako is showing scum motive so much as I think their posts are what scum would be making right now

[SirCakez]

Not a big fan of NK15 votes because he seems like super LHF

[SirCakez]

If there's scum on the Tako wagon it's probably Save the Dragons

[SirCakez]

Not a big fan of NK15 votes because he seems like super LHF

If there's scum on the Tako wagon it's probably Save the Dragons

Is Save the Dragons not LHF?

No way

[SirCakez]

If there's scum on the Tako wagon it's probably Save the Dragons

not kitty? not gamma? not vd? i mean yeah STD is scummy but its not like he's the sole scummy vote.

I didn't get scum vibes from the votes those people made

[SirCakez]

If there's scum on the Tako wagon it's probably Save the Dragons

not kitty? not gamma? not vd? i mean yeah STD is scummy but its not like he's the sole scummy vote.

I didn't get scum vibes from the votes those people made

weren't you just agreeing with me that kitty was scummy?

Yeah but not because of the vote

[SirCakez]

[quote="In post 370, RCEnigma"]
Gamma and Nero are in weird spots. I want to scumread gamma but I don't think anything they've done feels like gamma!scum. I hate the taco wagon but gamma doesn't jump out as the scummiest vote. I had them as townish before the wagon though so ehh./quote]
Hate all of this it's such a fencesit

[SirCakez]

Gamma and Nero are in weird spots. I want to scumread gamma but I don't think anything they've done feels like gamma!scum. I hate the taco wagon but gamma doesn't jump out as the scummiest vote. I had them as townish before the wagon though so ehh.

Hate all of this it's such a fencesit

Fixed

[SirCakez]

Dannflors entrance was so underwhelming

[SirCakez]

Gamma and Nero are in weird spots. I want to scumread gamma but I don't think anything they've done feels like gamma!scum. I hate the taco wagon but gamma doesn't jump out as the scummiest vote. I had them as townish before the wagon though so ehh.

Hate all of this it's such a fencesit

Fixed

Get all the way out of here. I'm undecided on 2 slots that have dubious connections but named 4 other slots as definitive reads. So dig a little deeper and explain why having null reads in addition to my townreads is A.) An issue and 2.) In any way scum indicative.

Your other reads are totally irrelevant
To me it looks like you made that post about taco and gamma just to leave yourself open to voting both

[SirCakez]

vla until monday

[SirCakez]

Also shameless omgus VOTE: Dannflor

My DV read is kind of reinforced and for the same reasons he snuck into my townreads to begin with (his re evaluation of Kitty at the time) and kitty is prob town here.

out of the possible votes, Dannflor feels a bit odd rn

nah I kinda like it

it depends but sometimes scum will town read those that are scum reading them.

ya ^
cuz it can help defuse pressure kinda like "i'll scratch your back so you scratch mine"

This almost feels like a misrep to me. Is having one or two null reads fencesitting now? Just straight up cutting the whole TR list out because it's irrelevant? Is RCE just not supposed to share their thoughts? There's little harm in the indecisiveness at this point.

I said RCE's post was fencesitting their other reads were not in that post so I don't understand how they keep getting pulled into this

This NK15 wagon feels like it exists solely because people don't like the Tako wagon

who is "people"?

[SirCakez]

I'm not really interested in the NK15 wagon but I don't mind it cuz maybe it will make him do something

[SirCakez]

who is "people"?

carca at least

Ok but there's several other votes on NK15 so I don't see how your previous post holds water

[SirCakez]

This almost feels like a misrep to me. Is having one or two null reads fencesitting now? Just straight up cutting the whole TR list out because it's irrelevant? Is RCE just not supposed to share their thoughts? There's little harm in the indecisiveness at this point.

I said RCE's post was fencesitting their other reads were not in that post so I don't understand how they keep getting pulled into this

But their other reads were in the original post 370?

DV, over90 (but in a weird way), potato, Italiano in town ranges over null.

Ah you're right. I forgot I snipped that quote. I'll drop the point then.

[SirCakez]

I am behind and can't get caught up until tomorrow but my vote is really stale and this guy needs more pressure

VOTE: dannflor

[SirCakez]

Ok well I still need to catch up here but
VOTE: over90
Obv

[SirCakez]

enchant, nero, what about elsa/gamma?
and do you agree with my plan (about italiano, enchant, bosco, elsa)?

Was this also meant for scum pt? Hrm

[SirCakez]

Your join date is two weeks ago and you sold it completely like a newbie for two pages and you're surprised I fell for it? Clearly you have not played with me before lol

[SirCakez]

Sorry I'll be here tomorrow I'm wiped and just swung by and saw that

[SirCakez]

Hi sorry I have been lurking I'm just very far behind in this game but I will sit down here tomorrow and get back in it

[SirCakez]

I'm here at last!

[SirCakez]

I will say despite over90's gambit being annoying it makes him probably town
I also like him mediating Nero and Italiano around page 20

[SirCakez]

Eh, let me know when things get serious. I’ll be back later.

Why not make them serious yourself?

posting just to post to increase thread presence

Seems like Nero is pre apologizing for being scum

this joke is just so stilted like hyuk hyuk i'm not scum but nero is lol

Can we just not delve into setup spec when we have literally zero information as a whole.

Why even make this post the setup spec was fine

again posting just to post

Ignore that Nashed quote my phone has a bug

why was your only comment to bring up something someone else mentioned?

I mean I really didn't have much to comment on while catching up. Majority of what has been posted looks like it's been in jest aka the traitor/jester/mason claim.
This just very serious in like a very jokey time & felt very off.

This is such a scum thing to post

VOTE: takotsubo

able to jump onto this vote without actually saying much of anything

I find it funny ppl shaded kitty for not wanting to case early and then shaded italiano for casing early. Or was it setup spec? Either way it felt a bit trigger happy there.

Who are people? This is shade casting without anyone in specific named

casts random shade on carcallilly #1

If there's scum on the Tako wagon it's probably Save the Dragons

casts random shade on me #2

Gamma and Nero are in weird spots. I want to scumread gamma but I don't think anything they've done feels like gamma!scum. I hate the taco wagon but gamma doesn't jump out as the scummiest vote. I had them as townish before the wagon though so ehh.

Hate all of this it's such a fencesit

Fixed

casts random shade on RCEnigma #3

Dannflors entrance was so underwhelming

casts random shade on Dannflor #4

Sircakez vibes are off. he's throwing shade just to throw it, not to scumhunt, and a lot of it isn't really clarified. his entry posts are stilted and look like they're posting just to post. i think it's sircakez here.

Literally all of these are just my posting style and I'm pretty sure you know that

[SirCakez]

I will say despite over90's gambit being annoying it makes him probably town
I also like him mediating Nero and Italiano around page 20

What was his gambit?

the fake scumslip a few pages ago that I fell for and now he thinks I'm scum because I did

[SirCakez]

and we also kill to kill townies and town prs, right?

That looks like a post intended for the Mafia PT.
VOTE: Over90

I thought I was talking in PT, sorry for that

Can we re-start the game please? With new random roles?

[SirCakez]

How does Save the dragons not have as much pressure?

I forgot he existed here.

cuz he's probably scum lol

Originally I voted Gamma because pressure is the most reliable way to read Gamma. The abrasive pushback is scum indicative for Gamma specifically.

I agree with this and I was about to vote Gamma but then I saw they repped out. So I'm waiting to see more from the slot.

Can someone sus me and fight me so I have the motivation to do something.

this also might be scum

[SirCakez]

and we also kill to kill townies and town prs, right?

That looks like a post intended for the Mafia PT.
VOTE: Over90

I thought I was talking in PT, sorry for that

Can we re-start the game please? With new random roles?

I'm an aspie but that shit feels like a joke rather than a gambit.

so am I lol that's probably most of why I fell for it

[SirCakez]

also I still just want to kill Dannflor lol

[SirCakez]

oh Dann got thrown out too wow

I come back from the dead after nine months away from the site and 2 peeps already want me dead.

For the others who never have met me: hello howdy sup hi I'm Elsa, resident good luck charm and fun to be around. Nice to meet you.

this reads like a scum entrance tbh

VOTE: elsa jay

[SirCakez]

let me finish reading before spewing any more incorrect crap

[SirCakez]

oh

it was a joke

UNVOTE: over

and here i was excited there was a scum slip

okay several people fell for it not just me lmao

[SirCakez]

@SirCakez @Kitty @NK15

What do you guys think of Nero claiming pr only

after

there wasn’t traction on me and claimed he will check me?

What do you think of over90’s presence in the game?

What do you think of DeasVail? Now or still?

When you guys get the chance of course.

-I think Nero is town so idc
-He's probably town and playing pretty well
-Idk about DV. His posts haven't been great and he feels pretty vote happy like he'll lim anyone. So probably more scum.

[SirCakez]

also I don't think Mala is scum anymore

[SirCakez]

she prefers to talk about prs, about mechanics, about anything else, but she has zero susps, zero towns, bc she knows almost everything she needs. talking so much about prs is scummy thing by the way, this is a process of gathering reactions and searching for real prs. to kill em

I agree with this Elsa is just existing and using survivalism I'm not seeing any scumhunting

I don't wanna lie and put people somewhere randomly. I can do something better tho if it helps the town. Mala doesn't wanna interact in it anyway.

I am in Masonry with MonkeyMan576, Carcalilly and takotsubo syndrome.

Oh yeah.

I am in Masonry with Anime, Carcalilly and takotsubo syndrome.

It's updated to me, Enchant, Mala, and Carca but we're all in a neighborhood and with 4 people in it it's a pretty easy assumption to assume there's scum in there somewhere. If Over is scum he knows that too and is already setting up my elim tomorrow for not being shot as a PR. I'm nothing but a neighbor.

Been reading the thread and the neighborhood I replaced in and of the 3 I think Enchant is probably the closest to confirmed town to me, while Carca is null and Mala is scummy and most likely to be the evil one.

That help?

ok so the PR claim is irrelevant

[SirCakez]

In fact, the only mention of Dann or me prior to this interaction was StD shading Cakey for his suspicion on Dann floor. That's a very incongruent opinion.

Not really

I could be wrong about cakez

It's not about shading dann it's about tossing shade

That's kinda a garbage position for early in the game particularly with the posts highlighted. Most of those deserved call outs.

Your defense of cakez is noted

nobody cares lol

[SirCakez]

save the dragons/elsa/nashed/DV

this is the scum team
if there's five it can be Carca or Enchant or someone who isn't doing anything

[SirCakez]

oh wait Titus could still be scum honestly. nothing she posted townpinged me, Dannflor was awful and it kinda felt like she was trying to buddy me the last two pages

[SirCakez]

WAIT HOW DO YOU GO FROM CALLING ME OUT FOR TITUS DEFENDING YOU THEN TURN AROUND AND GO "I GUESS SHES BUDDYING ME"

Bc I think that was scummy regardless of Titus alignment

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Bosco

That's why I stick with good ol' reliable DC Comics. All owned under one umbrella and has good animated stuff. Just my style.

Though I am getting into The Boys and Invincible now. So I'll have to get back to that later.

This is really the best vote you have right now?

[SirCakez]

If we're murdering a lurker I'd much rather kill Nashed

[SirCakez]

Okay so why don't we just kill Elsa it seems like no one even really wants to lim Bosco

[SirCakez]

I don't think either of these statements are true.

????

[SirCakez]

Cakez was also pushing that there was 4 scum and I'd argue that Elsa/Gamma pushing 3 is way more TMI than assuming 4 like is normal. + I was also pushing that there were 4 scum long before my TMI "slip" so just conveniently ignore that?

I said there was 4 or 5 that's not "pushing there are 4"

[SirCakez]

Wait I thought this game had 20 players not 16 I'm dumb LMAO
yeah there's like 99% just 4

[SirCakez]

Cakez' position:

scums: std/elsa/nashed/DV/titus + carca or enchant;
nero is town

i think cakes is scum because of his position.
he even didnt vote std not once (though he called him a scum many times, talking with people; std is voting him much time).
and DV seems to be a townie.
dv and std should be not together and they are not with titus i guess.
so the position was made with no thinking, without trying truly to solve the game.
and nero shouldnt be the towniest town here, but he is for cakes since page2 maybe, that's strange.

if cakes is scum, std and bosco should be townies, not sure about nero... though wait, bosco is voting where? elsa? strange again

There's no point voting StD because there's no wagon
Why would I vanity vote StD when there are possible wagons on my scum reads Elsa and Titus

[SirCakez]

VOTE: titus
Ye let's lim her

[SirCakez]

Deasvail
StD
Mala
RCE
Bosco

Here's a pool. I can be bribed.

I'm an odd night roleblocker.

Let's lim in scum now or let me go so I can ignore this game.

Likely just a scum role

[SirCakez]

Deasvail
StD
Mala
RCE
Bosco

Here's a pool. I can be bribed.

I'm an odd night roleblocker.

Let's lim in scum now or let me go so I can ignore this game.

Titus reacted like I expect her to as scum flaming out and blaming the people voting her

[SirCakez]

If you want me to reevaluate make me think you are town

[SirCakez]

I didn't even do anything to get Titus wagoned how can she blame me for that

[SirCakez]

Traveling today won't be around much

[SirCakez]

Eudbsisndiansi

[SirCakez]

VOTE: malakittens
This seems like a good shot for scum in the hood

[SirCakez]

It sucks how many scummy people are in the hood like I want to kill them all but prob only one at most is scum :/

[SirCakez]

He also was trying to throw shade on a lot of people early on and it looks like he was just trying to stir shit

Man I do this regardless of alignment lol

[SirCakez]

Btw still want to kill Nashed what a useless slot

[SirCakez]

It sucks how many scummy people are in the hood like I want to kill them all but prob only one at most is scum :/

Who in the hood is scummy to you?

Is enchant’s play here more likely from enchant-scum even?

I could kill any of Elsa, Math, or Mala
Enchant is like fine I guess

[SirCakez]

It sucks how many scummy people are in the hood like I want to kill them all but prob only one at most is scum :/

Who in the hood is scummy to you?

Is enchant’s play here more likely from enchant-scum even?

Carca wasn't that townie and I didn't like Maths opening today
I didn't realize Mala claimed JK I missed some pages. Probably wouldn't kill her then

[SirCakez]

VOTE: elsa jay going back to this

[SirCakez]

It sucks how many scummy people are in the hood like I want to kill them all but prob only one at most is scum :/

Who in the hood is scummy to you?

Is enchant’s play here more likely from enchant-scum even?

Wait Mala basically guiltied Elsa with the no kill that should be the default lim today

[SirCakez]

We don't need all these conspiracy theories Occam's Razor says Elsa is just scum who got rbed which stopped the kill
Not hard

[SirCakez]

It sucks how many scummy people are in the hood like I want to kill them all but prob only one at most is scum :/

Who in the hood is scummy to you?

Is enchant’s play here more likely from enchant-scum even?

It's 99% a guilty

[SirCakez]

God I'm so over this bug that doesn't unquote posts

[SirCakez]

Do you think I'd make sense as a possible n1 shot?

Yeah probably you're UTR

[SirCakez]

VOTE: std
My Nero townread is dead based on how he tried to save Elsa yesterday fyi

[SirCakez]

is there anything people want me to like defend against

Scum post he's looking for a way out

[SirCakez]

Another prot on top of jail keeper?

[SirCakez]

dealing with family issues at the moment.

i'm a 1 shot doc, i protected over90 night 1

Sorry to hear about your family :/

Gamewise this sounds like a total fakeclaim. Why weren't you suspicious of RCE at all?

[SirCakez]

I feel like 1-shot is more often a fakeclaim because then you only have to make up one target - less room for a slip or guilty from something like a watcher or tracker

[SirCakez]

Dang I was like why are there five new pages already
Then I saw who repped in lol

[SirCakez]

I believe we should be eliminating between Nashed and CSF

yeah I think either of these is fine

[SirCakez]

VOTE: Nashed

[SirCakez]

ok ya Koba seems townier then Nero but also we'll see if they start shitpushing a bunch of town

[SirCakez]

cakez is spewed town IMO also off of StD

yes I feel I am pretty obviously town for once this game

[SirCakez]

wait I forgot about KittyTacky even being in this game LMAO probably not a good sign

[SirCakez]

over90 probably scum for that statement.

nah over is town

thank god NM is confirmed and we don't have to worry about that

[SirCakez]

nashed is a slot that if they were town theyd also get pushed by scum themselves.

This is the best point for Nashed scum
Why have they been ignored for three days

[SirCakez]

Ya Mala has been on fire this game give her credit

[SirCakez]

I mean it makes a lot of sense that Mala just stopped the kill bc the JKed person flipped scum
Like Occam's razor just says Mala did exactly what we think

[SirCakez]

give me good reasons as to why we should kill NK15 here.

i dont want "reasons". I want a concrete case that counters the fact I see that scum have lightly spewed NK15 as town.

Can you quote this bc I missed where you talked about this
I was tempted to move to NK while Andante gets involved

[SirCakez]

VOTE: kittytacky this person is scum
I can't even chop through the shit posters right now

[SirCakez]

They seem totally lifeless here - what does their scum game look like in comparison??

[SirCakez]

It's not impossible for Andante to be scum yeah

[SirCakez]

Enchant feels like a PL or is there actually a scumcase

[SirCakez]

VOTE: andante I had a change of heart overnight and this felt like scum earlier with how bad Nashed was

[SirCakez]

WHAT??? NOOO

so what happens after I flip town? like, I'm town here...

I definitely understand the votes coming my way... but like, can I hear the plan for after I flip town?

this sounds like a scum reaction lol

[SirCakez]

I would rather do NK15 than CSF

[SirCakez]

They are

It’s why I think that you’re going to spew alignment today.

You’ve claimed something that makes you unlikely to be shot if town so it’s a vapid excuse to you not dying at night when you’re a common kill. I kinda just don’t buy BP with Mala and Titus is in play.

I think if you can build and find a town block you win this

So town you or scum you resets here

So I want to see how you play.

I agree with this and I'm definitely a little sus of Koba after yesterday but I also have misread them frequently so hesitant

[SirCakez]

They are

It’s why I think that you’re going to spew alignment today.

You’ve claimed something that makes you unlikely to be shot if town so it’s a vapid excuse to you not dying at night when you’re a common kill. I kinda just don’t buy BP with Mala and Titus is in play.

I think if you can build and find a town block you win this

So town you or scum you resets here

So I want to see how you play.

I don't think Enchant is scum

[SirCakez]

i'd argue for myself based on how nero treated scum and was treated by scum but i know thats beyond most people's effort levels to see

No way

[SirCakez]

VOTE: nk15
I forgot to do this earlier

[SirCakez]

It bothers me that Koba replaced Nero then immediately began pushing the exact same slot as him

[SirCakez]

Kitty's suspicious actions:

1. He protected gamma/elsa, so he protected mafia.
2. He knew for sure that Titus was not lying about her role as scum, so he knew for sure, that she is not a scum and that she was going for sure to flip green.
3. He considered Italiano solid town, Nero was null for him, but then with no good reasons he starts sheeping Dkoba(nero) against kitty's solid town CSF(Italiano) and with no reasons he calls Dkkoba locktown.

Elim kitty

I could sheep this

[SirCakez]

It bothers me that Koba replaced Nero then immediately began pushing the exact same slot as him

How is this bad?

It just gives me the ick

[SirCakez]

It bothers me that Koba replaced Nero then immediately began pushing the exact same slot as him

How is this bad?

It just gives me the ick

But why is the slot town

You mean CSF? It's null for me but I haven't seen a compelling reason for it to be scum

[SirCakez]

SirCakez, can you read math's iso - like read it and think about the way he's talking. I think it's extremely off.
I genuinely think it is CSF/Mathblade here

Elaborate what you mean by "off" and I'll look at it

[SirCakez]

viewtopic.php?p=13421770#p13421770

There’s a good reason for that

I just got done with a game where I defended all three scum

So I am gobbling humble pie

I have been here many times before so I believe this

[SirCakez]

I kind of just want to mass murder CSF/Kitty/Enchant/NK15 then the game is almost definitely over lol

[SirCakez]

Math I am obviously not scum with StD if you read his ISO

[SirCakez]

koba I don't really have much faith in your reads this game after you spent all day yesterday pushing a mislim

[SirCakez]

koba I don't really have much faith in your reads this game after you spent all day yesterday pushing a mislim

[SirCakez]

Ok so I'm dumb and will sheep Koba lol

[SirCakez]

VOTE: kitty
This has to die before endgame anyways

[SirCakez]

I'm between CSF and kitty but honestly I'm feeling shit here bc I misread Math so bad

[SirCakez]

I don't think Koba was bussing Math there that wouldn't make any sense

[SirCakez]

Now that this is over, Enchant looks just like Mafia Invictus Redux Enchant
No interest in a lim there

[SirCakez]

Sorry for disappearing at the end here but glad I was on the right wagon at the end
GG